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Titan, one thing I am wondering is how many fillings did you have in your mouth? If I recall, you had those removed awhile back…just curious.
Keep on truckin!
Exactly my thoughts Raster..
And, how is your story of mercury exposure in the past? Did you grow up in a industrial area? Did you mother have many fillings and did you get breastfed by her?
How did you get your test done for mercury poisoning?
At last: Congrats, on feeling great again! 🙂 Thanks for sharing your story
I had 3 fillings replaced with composite ones. Not sure if all of them were porcelain fused to metal fillings, but 2 were for sure. all 3 were metal for sure.
My mother had fillings yes, and she’s got a strong case of ADHD, very sensitive to the sun, etc. But there’s no way of knowing if it was transferred during pregnancy. Part of me does believe this could be possible, as this mercury medicine is providing relief from many cognitive/emotional/physical symptoms I’ve dealt with since childhood 🙂 – And I’ve heard of others even in youtube videos searches on metal toxicity or cutler protocol will show patients reporting the same feeling of relief from a life time of symptoms.
I did not grow up in industrial areas.
My test was a leap of faith – I took the medicine (only 5 mgs of DMPS to start) and I just knew on the first day that this was the answer. I was walking out of home depot about 3 hours after I took the first pill. I remember just getting a visual depth perception looking at the cars in the parking lot rows, then looking at the clouds, then looking at my hands and my arms and legs – – and then an intense feeling in my mind – – THIS IS THE ANSWER> HOLY SHIT> YOU FIGURED IT OUT.
Now, you can imagine my parent’s excitement/skepticism with this new discovery. By this point, I’m 8 months out of a divorce, 3 of which I spent with my parents in a complete manic depressive state – so they noticed an immediate difference in my behavior – but we had already scheduled a trip to Mayo Clinic – so off I went for a 2nd opinion. On the trip to Mayo, I had my doubts and expected to get the round around the same I did with local doctors.
Upon visiting with my assigned Dr. Hensrud in the Executive Health Program at Mayo (reserved for corporate employees from large businesses – but my father knew someone at Mayo and got me the appointment), then telling the Dr. my entire story and my experience following the Andrew Cutler Protocol and how I just started the DMPS mercury chelation medicine (by this point I had been on the medicine for approx. 2 months) – I completely expected him to tell me I was crazy and to stop the medicine. To my amazement, he knew about Mercury Poisoning and Andrew Cutler, and he determined that diagnosis was definitely mercury toxicity/poisoning because of my extreme relief of symptoms I had been experiencing on the medicine. What an awesome day that was.
He said typically you’ll have a long climb out of this, and you’ll experience the biggest progress in the beginning of therapy. Like climbing a mountain for 3 years, and you climb half of it within the first 6 months, then the rest can take years. Well – it’s been about 5 months – and HE WAS EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
The Mayo Dr. did say they could run a “Heavy Metal Toxicity” urine analysis, but because I was already on the mercury medicine (remember I flew up to Seattle months before and visited nurse Julie Anderson, who is known for mercury toxicity treatment and prescribes medicine to out of town patients if they come visit her face to face) – Because I was on the medicine already, Dr. Hensrud said that the “metal toxicity test” won’t tell us anything we don’t already know, and there’s a chance the results won’t be positive because he’s already on the medicine. The test is where they give you a high dose of mercury medicine, then catch your urine midstream to analysis it for heavy metal toxicity – thing is – experts in the mercury world will tell you that this test has a reputation for being both inaccurate and DANGEROUS. If you want to do the test, my advice is research is thoroughly. In my opinion, its much safer to just take the DMPS or DMSA “starter” chelation in a very small milligram and see if you fell a difference. (You’ll have to have all of your metal fillings taken out and you have to do your research on the Andrew Cutler Protocol – he designed a safer way to take his medicine about 10 years ago).
My case went severe overnight, approx. 3 years ago. The medicine I’m on is wiping those extreme symptoms away, and opening my mind and body to relief from symptoms decades before that !!!!!
Oh, and I took a break from chelation (did DMPS continuously for 5 weeks, every 6 hours around the clock) – anyway – I’ve been OFF the medicine for a full week (if you miss a dose by more than 8 hours, you have to quit for a whole week), and all my new “powers” as I like to call them – have STAYED with ME. I even fell better when I’m off round because chelation therapy takes a lot out of you physically. The day I stopped the medicine, my depth perception was enhanced immediately, my energy more responsive to rebounding from working out (something I do maybe 2-3 times a day now!). Also, something I’m sure a lot of you would like to know – I can handle vodka, and I mean I had to work my way up – but now I can get drunk – and experience a typical hangover. If I overdo it (let’s say 8 vodka & waters, maybe a few sugar free redbulls), then I have a hangover and I’m very drained physically the next day – BUT I bounce back – sometimes within 6 hours the next day upon waking, sometimes it takes a full day to get back in to where my current strength is with running, jumping, yoga, flexibility, pushups, barbell curls, etc.)
I don’t recommend drinking on the protocol – I’m just sorta celebrating a lot right now, especially before I start ALA – I’ll have to completely avoid alcohol while on round with ALA, as that is very strong medicine.
Again, this medicine allows me to function as long as I avoid gluten, sugar, carbs, dairy, etc. That and I can feel it wiping away “stress triggers” and increasing my cognitive ability by remembering names, events, conversations, connection points, etc. Oh, and my focus gets stronger every week.
I have done the requisite 3 months of either DMSA or DMPS (I’ve actually done 5 months) – now I can add the “cure” chelator (kee-late-tor) ALA or Alpha Lipoic Acid. I will add this to my DMPS routine. It will be ALA every 3 hours and DMPS every 6 hours. I will take only take the ALA for 3 nights, 2 days (that is considered a ROUND of chelation therapy). I will stay on DMPS the entire time – as it will help with a resurgence of symptoms that happens when your ALA rounds are done and thus mercury has stopped being carried out of the body and then REDISTRIBUTES).
I will take breaks on DMPS for a week at a time every month or so, or if I miss a dose of course.
Most people take 60-100 rounds (weeks on the ALA medicine) to fully recover. That’s what I’m shooting for, but I’m here to tell you the miracle has already taken place with me – and it just keeps happening every day all the time. Even if I get a small panic attack or pain in my chest or I crash if I eat some sugar or dairy – even then – I wake up the next day and I feel recovered and I feel the medicine working to improve what my stomach, muscle, and nerves can handle. I can tell this is the cure, and that I will come out of this treatment a stronger, smarter, and more resilient person that I’ve ever known.
Love to all of you out there.
My insurance covers DMPS – typically a compounding pharmacy (which are different than your traditional Walgreens pharmacy) will be able to make it for you. Compounding pharmacies are located all over the country. The tricky part is getting the prescription.
My copay is $50 each time – I had started DMPS with 5mg, then 10mg, then 20mg – now I’m on 30mg (the max DMPS is 35 mg). My copay is $50 (which is on the higher side because I work for a small company), but its $50 regardless of the mg, so you get more bang for your buck once you work your way up to higher milligrams.
The main cure is in ALA, which I have yet to take. I have 5mg pills ready to go. Going to start that next week.
I am thankful for the internet and this forum, and it probably wasn’t “cool” for me to rant the way I did this morning…I’ve been going through a lot of emotions because of mercury. I took out a lot of frustrations out on this forum today, and that is not fair. I am far more upset with my local doctors that misdiagnosed me, and I took it out on this forum when what I really wanted to do was walk into my GP’s office and ask them why they didn’t suggest mercury poisioning when I told them of all my extreme symptoms 2 years ago. I would have been fully recovered by now, still married, and probably a first time dad.
I’m still learning a lot of valuable lessons through this whole process, and it seems I learned another one today. Until I get on the other side of this illness, I need to stay as calm as possible, and hold off on hitting the send button before I’ve had time to reflect on my statements…that would be the responsible thing to do. It’s very frustrating to know that I sometimes don’t have control of my thoughts and actions, but comforting now to know that one day I will once I recover from mercury.
And you are right, I need to take responsibility for my own health. I pushed and pushed with antifungals, and I honestly got worse mentally. While I was on the protocol, I couldn’t tell what was causing what in my system. I know what Able said about testing things out, and I did that to the best of my ability…but it’s so much to take in, especially if you have something challenging you mentally like mercury.
What I wish was happening more on this forum is for everyone to keep an open mind. Some of us might heal and eventually eat normal healthy food again. We don’t know for sure if we have Candida alone or something else, or not at all. There are so many symptoms that could easily be placed under the Candida umbrella. And when you are deseperate and not getting answers, you are willing to believe and try anything, and as forum members, we should be totally aware of the responsibility that presents.
I was already stressed because of years of no answers, then a divorce and losing my home, and believing that I would have to eat a restrictive diet for the rest of my life…it wasn’t so much the kinds of things that were happening, it’s that my mind was going to extreme fears with all of this.
And it doesn’t help that there are rare success stories on the internet. If people are getting better or worse, they rarely come back to tell us…at least I’m doing that.
Able, I realize you are not perfect, and that you are sincerely trying to help. You helped me many times emotionally, and I am thankful. I hope we can learn and move forward from all this.
jameskep, I do plan on restesting hair, but I’m really not focused on that right now. I’m 3 years behind the ball here, and I am just enjoying day dreaming again.
raster, the name of the book is Amalgam Illness…Dr. Cutler’s method is considered the safest and has been around for 10+ years.
If you join the yahoo frequent dose chelation group, there is a wealth of information on the subject. One thing that is pretty consistent…I see a lot of stories of people who had naturopaths who screwed them up on random chelation protocols. My nurse in Seattle said that she’s had people come to her that were confined to wheelchairs from bad protocols. I would ask your guy to give you some success stories form his patients. I found the nurse in Seattle from reading the book of one of her fully recovered patients. The book is called Getting The Mercury Out.
I am supplementing like crazy, adding minerals and all kinds of pills to replace all the things that chelation takes out of your body along with the toxic metals.
I am now up to 15mg of DMPS, and it is amazing. It has given me “a” life. I’ve been able to concentrate at work, quit smoking (no more panic, hence no more urges), and my depression and fatigue have turned down from a 10 to a 3. My panic attacks are few and far between and last only a few seconds.
The best thing that is happening on this medicine is that I am getting flashes of pure joy. It’s hard to explain. A fun thought will pop into my head, like a past memory of checking into a hotel while on vacation or an idea about taking a trip or making someone happy, and the thought would only stay for a second or 2.
I’ll look at an object, like a clear solo cup, and it will remind me of the beach or going to the pool, and I immediately get happy.
Since upping my dose to 15mg, the thoughts are coming more and more each and every day, and they are “sticking” longer, up to 5 seconds or so. At 5mg, I would get 3-5 of these flashes a day. At 15mg, I’m getting them every hour now!
Overall, I am happy.
Let me repeat that statement, I AM HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the first time in 3 years, I am experiencing feelings of joy again.
I am eating low sugar, chicken, veggies, tomatoes, etc. My cheats are gluten-free things, but only occasionally. My skin isn’t as good as it was on the strict forum diet, but I can function on this DMPS medicine, and I can travel and eat at restaurants w/ salads or grilled chicken and veggies.
Don’t rule out mercury. I didn’t even have amalgams in my mouth, I had metal-fused to porcelain crowns, but I had them replaced anyway. The 2 times I got extremely sick where when I came back from a trip eating seafood, and when I had one of my fillings removed. I could have gotten exposure my whole life from toxic metals, and something or other sent me over the edge 3 years ago.
But I also want everyone to know that I am cautious, and its good to know that if this isn’t the final cure for me, I can always use the forum protocol or at least the foods list to minimize symptoms.
From someone who was in a dark place and thinking dark thoughts, to now write these words of happiness to you…it brings tears to my eyes. I will never think dark thoughts again. This world hasn’t seen the last of me. I’m going to have everything I want from this life, whether I fully recover or not.
Sincere hope for you all,
You know, this is why I’m off this forum. People come out of the woodwork to start arguing.
All I did was tell you guys that I think I might have found the answer and presented REAL recovery stories.
When people who are NOT medical professionals come on these forums and present “facts” as law, it can confuse and stress out the readers.
I wasn’t presenting facts, just what I’ve learned so far. I’ve read many books on mercury and watched Mercury Undercover to educate myself. MU is a documentary with several medical professionals providing their expertise on the subject. How come the PhD from the University of Kentucky didn’t say that mercury amalgams are negligible??
Are you a medical professional Floggi? Or are you simply reading information on the Internet like the rest of us? You sound very intelligent and I’m sure you’ve done your homework, but nothing I presented is controversial – remove the source of the poison safely, avoid re-exposure, and chelate to get the metals out of the body, while following a low carb/sugar/starch/gluten diet, and supplementing minerals, vitamins, and probiotics.
And what exactly is wrong with what im doing? I removed my amalgams months ago safely and the pain in my face is gone. I avoid fish now. I am taking chelators to pull the mercury out of the body.
This topic is meant to be a positive story. Why is every topic on this forum argued so much? We can’t even agree on diets or antifungals. I’m so TIRED of sick people arguing. I have learned a lot on the internet and it could save my life eventually, but this is why i dont come online anymore.
Just try to find out what is wrong with YOURSELF, then choose your path, and get on with life. I’ve stopped researching Mercury months ago. Now I’m going out to parties, enjoying my career again, etc.
It seems there is a never ending non-consensus to alternative medicine. I for one am just going to get back to my life and remain stress free and happy that I believe I found a cure.
Cheesey;41102 wrote: I note you said that the hair mineral analysis is a reliable test? I have an amalgam filling but my hair mineral analysis shows negligible levels of mercury. Should I assume, then, that mercury is very unlikely to be an issue for me?
Cheesey, Dr. Cutler developed “counting rules” that are used to analyze test results. Mercury poisoning is often indicated if your other minerals are outside the normal percentiles. If you join the yahoo low dose frequent chelation group, there are tons of links to group created websites that explain the details, as it is complicated.
The group lays out all the instructions…first thing you need to do is join the group, then follow the instructions for posting your hair test results for the group to see. I was test result like #700 or something, so I would consider the group to be very knowledgeable and helpful.
Flipper;41078 wrote: Titan, Thank you soooo much for all this information. I believe I have heavy metal issues and my doctor wants to do the IV. Now I’m thinking that isn’t such a good idea. I’m going to check out your sites. I don’t think I have mercury tho, I’m thinking I have other heavy metals. Do you know anything about other metals? Is this process only for mercury? I am an artist and have had paints containing 7 different toxic metals on my hands for years now.
Chelation works for other metals as well. Try to take in all the research patiently.
Titan: are you monitoring you pH levels and have you done any research relating to pH and chelation? My naturopath feels that you shouldn’t start chelation unless you are pH neutral because if you aren’t, then you will chelate too many of the beneficial minerals you need for your general health.
Also are you supplementing yourself with minerals before, during, and after the chelation? This is very important, otherwise you can develop arthritis, bone problems, etc.
I am following a protocol provided by Julie Anderson, who follows Dr. Andy Cutler’s protocol. I will look into the pH and chelation further, but neither Julie nor Dr. Cutler make a huge statement about it in their websites and books. Dr. Cutler suggests starting chelation and not waiting to control yeast or other issues…
I am supplementing everyday using nurse Julie’s recommendations. stuff for my immune system, adrenals, vitamins and minerals, liver, and probiotics.
I am taking a break from kefir and antifungals because this is going to be a long haul for me and I have to keep my sanity. I’ve realized that as long as I’m not trying to kill candida, my symptoms are somewhat livable with a low carb/sugar diet and supplements, and that’s all I need to make it through 2 years of chelation.
I mean my symptoms are still with me, but with hope of a cure on the horizon, I am able to keep a more positive outlook throughout the day and get on with life. I’ve added non-organic chicken once or twice a day…usually with a salad and greens veggies, onions, avocado. I have cut back on eggs to only some every other day or so. For now I’m eating out more at restaurants, just ordering salads w/ chicken. In the morning I have water, decaf coffee (going to have to quit this soon), greek yoghurt w/ a few blueberries. I’ve also had a lot of gluten free stuff like bread, muffins, & waffles (more on quitting this in a bit)…The more I get into the trenches of chelation, it seems I will have to minimize my yeast symptoms so I can push my body to increase the dosage of ALA that I can handle…which means sooner or later I’m going to have to get strict again on the diet and load up on more organic veggies and juicing so I can handle the side effects of increasing the dosage of ALA.
Its just nice to take a break after 10 months on the strict forum diet and realize I might eventually find a cure one day. I have to be patient. My current diet is not the best, but it’s allowed me to take a much needed break so I can once again try to break through this wall of illness.
Its also been healthy for me to put all of this in my side mirror so I can focus on meeting life’s obligations again. I’ve worked hard to build a career and a network, and the antifungals were messing me up too much mentally. I just needed to come up for air.
tebzzz, my nurse Julie told me that I had to wait at least 3 months after filling removal before starting ALA, the chelator that crosses the blood brain barrier and removes mercury from the brain. I see you are doing it before the requisite waiting period, just FYI.
Julie also prescribed me DMPS instead of the over-the-counter chealtor DMSA. She told me to chelate continuously with DMPS, every 8 hours for 3 months, then add ALA every 3 hours for 3 days on the ALA medicine and 3 days off the medicine. I take the DMPS consistently, with no off periods unless I miss a dose, then I have to stop the medicine for 7 days before starting again.
The DMPS keeps me even and hopefully will make for a smooth addition of ALA soon.
If you can get DMPS, it can make chelation so much more bearable.
She said it’s a lifestyle change for a year or so, then you can readjust back to normal life, but focusing on your overall healthier lifestyle. Most people are done with chelation after a year or 2, and IF they ever have issues pop up in the future, they might do a few chelation rounds (weeks) and they are fine.
eat beforehand to fill up for a few hours, then grabs some veggies to tide you over. a carrot won’t kill you.February 26, 2013 at 6:06 pm in reply to: MercOut International Kit to detox Mercury Poisoning – Any Info. #98677
Nikki, I just flew to Seattle to see a nurse that specializes in mercury chelation, following the frequent low dose protocol outlined by Andy Cutler.
If you are looking into mercury poisoning as an underlying immune suppressor, then it deserves a lot of research. There are varying protocols and controversy surrounding the results.
From what I’ve researched, Cutler’s frequent low dose is the safest protocol.
During my mercury toxicity pursuit, I joined the yahoo group, then I took a hair test following their instructions. After I met the “counting rules” algorithms designed by Andy Cutler, I proceeded to locate a nurse/doctor that subscribes to his safe protocol.
My nurse in Seattle said that people have come to her confined in wheelchairs from following improper chelation protocols. She designs a protocol following Cutler’s book, and prescribes DMPS, one of the chelators for people who also suffer from yeast symptoms.
Now, before I decide to start on her protocol, I am going to research her methods further, then talk with my family and make a final decision. Patience and oversight are necessary when dealing with rare/obscure illnesses such as these.
If it gets too stressful, then pick a diet you think you can honor for 1 month, and you could move forward from there.
I think if you are one of the people who are having difficulties on such a strict diet, then perhaps they can benefit from a “pit stop” diet, where they add very low sugar items like blueberries or almond butter, more chicken, etc. to their daily salads and anti-candida veggies. I’ve done this and its kept me from eating big cheat items like pizza or cookies.
And beyond the diet slip ups, you have a lot of stress coming from all angles. I have benefited from seeing a psychologist during my journey with Candida. It has helped my perception across the board. I highly recommend it for candida sufferers, especially if you have insurance that covers it.
Thanks guys. I’ve read Amalgam Illness book and Getting The Mercury Out.
I’ll research the DMSA/neutropenia connection with candida sufferers.
I read about a doctor in Seattle that can prescribe DMPS (from the book Getting The Mercury Out). Does anyone know other helpful ways to find a doctor in the Mid South of USA?
it does have an effect in the gut, so eat it.