- July 21, 2012 at 6:11 am #87311
ATTCmelissaMemberTopics: 13Replies: 15
I was wondering if some of you would be able to share why you decided to go with the diet verses the RX antifungals. I’m just looking for accurate information to make an informed decision as to which way to go and why.
ThanksJuly 21, 2012 at 6:20 am #87312
Able900SpectatorTopics: 92Replies: 4814
ATTCmelissa wrote: I was wondering if some of you would be able to share why you decided to go with the diet verses the RX antifungals. I’m just looking for accurate information to make an informed decision as to which way to go and why.
Rx antifungals are basically able to destroy a small portion of the Candida population and nothing more; they do not prohibit the population from increasing.
Even if you could cure a Candida infestation while continuing to feed them a hardy meal several times a day, my estimate is, it would probably take 4 to 6 times longer, again, if this is even possible.
AbleJuly 21, 2012 at 6:37 am #87316
JavizyMemberTopics: 20Replies: 945
I don’t know how effective they’d be in the presence of biofilms, which are common when a pathogen become virulent. They also can’t account for any underlying cause that’s making you susceptible to infection, like unbalanced gut flora/missing bacterial species, nutrient deficiencies, chronic stress, endocrine imbalances/weaknesses, metabolic disorders etc. Poor liver function is involved in a lot of these problems, and some of the harsher meds, like fluconazole, are known to cause issues with liver toxicity.
Nystatin seems to be fairly neutral, but most people with chronic yeast infections are prescribed some sort of antifungal at some point without overcoming their susceptibility to recurrence. If you haven’t seen a doctor and have never followed the standard route, perhaps you could trial one of the less toxic meds. If you get recurrences, then you’re going to have to address the underlying issues if you want to put candida behind you.July 21, 2012 at 6:44 am #87318
LatkaMemberTopics: 5Replies: 128
My experience was that being on rx antigungals seemed to offer a temporary symptom relief. I was fine while on them but got worse again after finishing the course. My doctor just kept prescribing new courses and when I still didn’t get cured moved on to stronger stuff that eventually made me very sick. I believe my liver got pretty damaged in the process. I don’t want to scare you however; I know there are people who have responded well to rx antigungals too. And it is possible that destroying a lot of the population fast can jump start the healing. But personally I prefer to use natural antigungals now while supporting the process with a diet that seems to work for me.July 21, 2012 at 9:34 am #87327
dvjorgeParticipantTopics: 283Replies: 1368
Rx antifungals are necessary many times. The severe cases need them. The problem with the Rx is MDs don’t prescribe the dosage necessary to correct the infection. They also prescribe short courses that don’t work either. Nystatin is the best antifungal so far to treat an intestinal fungal grows. No toxicity since it doesn’t go out of the lumen. Fungicidal against candida albicans in tolerable doses, and the most important it isn’t absorbed meaning that only targets the intestines, where you need more.
Fluconazole, Itraconazole, and other azoles work systemic. It is necessary to take a systemic drug too because candida penetrates the epithelium. It gets inside the cells infecting them. That part of the infection needs to be treated bloodstream way. You need to kill the intracellular candidiasis to recover.
The most important part of this treatment is to chose the right moment to take the systemic Rx. For instance, you need to treat the home base first to destroy the toxic fabric that keeps your immune system toward to a Th2 response. It is necessary to balance the immune system toward to Th1. Combating the candida headquarter in the colon and detoxing heavy metals, if it is the your case, will unload the immune system.
This is the MOST important part. With a loaded immune system, nothing work. The immune system is responsible for ending with the infection helped by the drugs. You can take a truck loaded with Fluconazole, but if your immune system is polarized to a Th2 response, nothing will happen. Cell-mediated immunity is necessary to recover. There isn’t hope without it.
I have explained it a lot times.
Then, when you be able to suppress the toxins generated by candida ( fabric is in the colon ) your immune system will be released. There won’t be a chronic Th2 response allowing Th1 to combat candida focus in your vagina, lung, skin, etc.
Normally, using high doses of Nystatin long term, enemas, and other measures such as an smart diet, you are able to stop the toxin production in the colon. This is the first step to your recover.
Then, the remaining candida, if so, can be corrected with a prudent Fluconazole course. Some people need to take Fluconazole for 6 months to end with an intracellular candidiasis.
Jorge.July 22, 2012 at 4:55 am #87346
PositivoMemberTopics: 29Replies: 246
I personally prefer the diet because it’s a more natural approach, it’s worked for others and it helps address other issues in the body as mentioned before by others here. Modern day medicine is a part of the reason some of us are here so I would not use it for get rid of candida. Even if it takes longer I prefer the natural way to support overall healing. The intestines arent the only areas in our body suffering.
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