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    lagirl66
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    Hi. I am new to this forum. I believe that I have candida. It started out as bacterial overgrowth from overuse of antibiotics. But I have had SEVERE abdominal pain (like critters eating away at my intestines) for 6 months now. What ever I try, the pain never goes away. I have been eating a no sugar, very low carb diet for a month now, and I did go through some sort of a detox. But the pain will not stop. Any advice on what to do about this?? I have gone through tests to rule out other things and they came out fine. I am sick of this pain. Please help me.
    Thanks,
    Trish

    #62838

    debthebee
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    Unfortunately everyone on here is pretty much in the same boat as you and your abdominal pain sounds like it could be something else causing it so the best advice would be to see a doctor or preferably a gastroenterologist.

    #62839

    lagirl66
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    debthebee,
    Thankyou for your reply. I have had a bunch of tests done for the pain, and they all came out fine. That is why I am thinking it is still the overgrowth causing the pain. I don’t have a gastro doctor right now. I have seen all of them in my area and they basically dismissed my pain. They were jerks. Do people with candida have this pain?
    Thanks
    Trish

    #62841

    debthebee
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    If you don’t mind me asking, what testing did you have done?

    I think symptoms vary from one person to another and abdominal pain and discomfort is one of the symptoms but mine has never been so severe unless it was to do with trapped wind or eaten a food with high concentrations of sugar like dried fruit. If it is related to the Candida then I can only think that you possibly have a very severe case.

    What kind of pain is it exactly? Is it in your intestines and are there any other symptoms e.g. bloating, noticeable feeling of movements?

    You said you were doing a no carb, low sugar diet but there are a lot of other foods that can still contribute to helping the Candida grow. You could try doing the cleanse as mentioned on this website. Because so many foods are cut out at that stage, if your symptoms disappear then you will be able to tell which foods aggravate your pain by slowly adding them back. I didn’t do the cleanse but that was because no one food makes my symptoms worse. Most foods have the same effect so just going with natural foods with no additives has made a difference.

    Also is there anything else that you have noticed that makes your symptoms flare up? The worrying thing is that severe abdominal pain can be an indicator of a serious illness, but I would think doctors would be able to pick up on that.

    #62842

    lagirl66
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    debthebee,
    I should mention that I also have gastroparesis(delayed emptying of the stomach) and ibs(diarrhea) and I am fructose intollorant. I hope that helps. The testing I had done was blood work, a ct scan of the abdominals, and endoscopy. The blood work and ct scan came out great. That was my doctors words. The endoscopy was done by a GI doctor, and found alot of acid buildup and she had to stretch my hole (where the food exits) because it was very small and inflamed. The pain I have had never moved. It is always in the same place. Where the small intestine is. It is not in the stomach. And it is as though little critters are nawing at my intestines. It is horrible. I have had this same pain everyday, for 6 months. The pain dosent move around it is always in the middle of my intestines. I have extremely severe bloating from IBS but it has been alot worse since I got this. I was having alot of diarrhea to. But then I started taking the probiotic culturelle and it stoped. I hope I am taking the right one. I made a stevia candy bar the other night with just bakers chocolate unsweetened and stevia. I was in so much pain the next day I thought I was goind to die. I hope this gives you some ideas. I also drink juice out of green veggies, since I can’t eat them raw. I can’t eat much at all. I can only eat once a day right now, and I have lost over 60 pounds and I am still losing.
    Thanks
    Trish

    #62843

    debthebee
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    So are you being treated for gastroparesis? The IBS can be a symptom of Candida, I have that too. Except I started taking psyllium husks and it has REALLY helped. I would really recommend doing the detox drink in the cleanse stage of the diet even if you can’t stomach the cleanse itself. It’s made with psyllium husks and betonite clay which is really good at clearing out toxins so it could be a big help. The psyllium husks also help with diarrhea as it binds everything together.

    I think there is a possibility your pain is caused by the bacteria and if it is, doing this diet will help a lot. I would also suggest some liver support such as milk thistle. The liver contributes a lot to the digestive process so I would try everything possible if I was having the problems you are. Acid build up could be to do with your liver not functioning properly. Are you vomiting at all?

    Have a look at this link: http://liver-disease-symptoms.com/. This will help determine if your pain could be related to your liver under performing. As far as I can tell, an endoscopy doesn’t directly check your liver so this is something doctors could have missed. I could be wrong though.

    As for probiotics, Threelac has a good reputation and is specifically designed to kill Candida. It also has a 60 day money back guarantee.

    Also, do you have other symptoms of Candida? And what other foods are you eating? You mentioned chocolate…I assume that’s cocoa powder? That isn’t allowed on the diet because of the caffeine content which feeds the Candida. So if you definitely have bacterial overgrowth you’ve got to eat all the foods that kill it off and stick it out through the die off.

    #62845

    lagirl66
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    Right now I am not being treated for gastroparesis. There are only two medications for it and they can do further damage to your health. It is just not worth the risk. One of the symtoms is parkinsons type symptoms of shaking and such. And it happened to me. Luckily I stopped it right away and the symptoms stopped. The only thing I am concerned about the detox is diarrhea. I have chronic diarrhea from ibs. I am taking questran to control that. I am not vomiting at all. Alot of people have vomiting with GP and I have never had that. As far as I know, my liver is fine. I have had it tested and the last time it was fine. Also, my bowel movements are very dark. Where could I get this Threelac? How expensive is it? I am constantly weak, but that may be my painpills. I take tramadol. I have constant sinus problems. I have been through 5 surgeries to remove sinus polyps. I don’t know about the other symptoms of candida I will have to look them up. The foods that I am eating right now are homemade chicken patties, and egg white omlets. And I do make baked items from almond flour with stevia as the sweetener. Could that be causing the pain? What about coffee??? I drink it every morning. So I can get my BM out. I have to, or I will be in more pain from them staying inside me. I know it is kind of gross to tell you all this, but it is true. I am disabled from all my problems. Legally. I now recieve disability.
    I guess I should stop the coffee huh? Well, let me know what you think. And thanks for the advice.
    Trish

    #62847

    debthebee
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    Like I mentioned above, the psyllium husks helps diarrhea as it binds everything together. It’s been a great help to me as before even when I had a regular bowel movement the stools would be loose and separated, but they are not like that anymore. So trust me, it works. I was ill on my first day of this diet but that was just from such a drastic change in diet I think and I felt better the next day. But as for coffee, it contains a lot of caffeine and feeds the candida so you need to cut out the caffeine altogether.

    I understand why you are not being treated for gastroparesis, but I should imagine this is a contributory factor to your pain. It makes sense…if your stomach is not emptying at the correct rate then everything is slowing down and fermenting in your stomach which is then being passed on to your intestines and that would increase the candida symptoms too.

    I’m in the UK so I couldn’t tell you how much it is in dollars, but it’s £39 which I think is around $50. It is expensive but with a money back guarantee if you don’t see an improvement in 60 days you can get your money back. Just do a search on Google for Threelac. It’s manufactured by Global Health Trax.

    I don’t know what’s in Stevia either as we don’t have it in the UK but I don’t think it should cause you pain. You may have an intolerance to certain foods, I’m not sure. The only way to tell is to visit the main site http://www.thecandidadiet.com and do the cleanse/detox and see how you feel. Almond flour should be fine though.

    I’m sorry I can’t be of much more help, but if you can afford to I would suggest trying natural remedies like acupuncture and electroacupuncture for the GP and ginger is also supposed to help the stomach empty its contents. So try adding more ginger to your food…ground ginger in yoghurt perhaps and fresh ginger in meals. There are some great recipes on this site so have a look and also see if you can guy ginger capsules. Also Swedish bitters, if you have that in LA and perhaps a massage of the abdominal area.

    I know everything costs money, but sometimes you have to ask yourself, what is my health worth? For me, I will spend the money I have to to get better.

    #62848

    lagirl66
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    Thanks for all your advice. One thing about the cleanse. I don’t think I can do it because with GP, we can not have any fiber at all and I read that these things have fiber for the cleanse. Fiber slows the stomach down even more. I also have a question. Does coco powder have caffine? I ate some chocolate and was immediately in so much pain. OH I am not in LA. That is just my email cause I was born there. I actually live in Iowa. You are right about my stomach not emptying and having it get worse. I am trying to find a herb that will help that. I didn’t know that ginger did that. That is great. I sprinkle ginger on my chicken everyday. You are right. I will spend the money if it will help me. Thanks again

    #62849

    debthebee
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    Yes psyllium husks is fibre…but I don’t really understand why you can’t have it? Is that just digestible fibre? The psyllium husks are indigestible so maybe that will make a difference.

    It seems contradictory for GP to not be allowed fibre…fibre helps your bowel movements so without it your GP symptoms might not be worse but your bowel movements won’t improve. The psyllium husks are also used as a regular dietary supplement to improve and maintain regular GI transit. The inert bulk of the husks helps provide a constant volume of solid material irrespective of other aspects of the diet or any disease condition of the gut. But if you are unsure, it might be best to consult a specialist before undergoing the cleanse. I don’t want it to worsen your condition and I’m no expert.Have the consultants you’ve seen not been able to suggest what you can do to cure the condition? I’ve read that the antidepressant mirtazapine has also proven effective in the treatment of gastroparesis unresponsive to conventional treatment. So maybe ask your doctor about that.

    These doctors can’t just leave you to suffer with your condition. I think you need to get the GP sorted before you feel better. I read that if medicine hasn’t worked, surgery would be the next step. If they’ve been able to diagnose it they must know what has caused it and you must push for answers.

    #62850

    apctech
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    Hi, fellow Iowan! I also have IBS and I know that feeling of little critters gnawing at my intestines. It’s probably inflammation. The thing that I found that helps me is Extreme Immunity.

    http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Immunity-Immunolin-300-Gram-Plastic/dp/B0010ZJTM4

    I just mix one scoopful with yogurt or applesauce or whatever and eat it. I noticed an improvement in my IBS within a week, and those ‘little critters’ went away too.

    By the way, cocoa powder does have caffeine, which is something I avoid like the plague because of my GERD.

    #62851

    lagirl66
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    debthebee,
    My doctors have been of no help at all when it comes to GP. When I was first diagnosed, the doctors told me nothing about diet or anything. All he said was go online. He was a jerk. Remember me telling you how bad my stomach was and the doctor had to stretch the hole? Well, the first jerk I saw knew this and he left it in that shape. I think that is why I got worse. The doctor that did my endoscopy was great. But she was only here practicing for 6 months. Now she is gone. I have seen all of them in my area and they always dismiss me. Not wanting to help. So I am really in a bind with that. I will probably have to travel to the next biggest city, which is cedar rapids.
    Everyone I know that has GP knows that fiber is a big NO NO. What will happen is the food will move even slower, and we could develope a bzoar. It is like a hairball in a cat. The food just clumps up and wont move any further. Then it has to be surgically removed. I am so scared of that. So I stay away from all fiber.
    I will ask about that antidepressant. But it will depends what the side effects are. I have pushed for answers, but they do nothing.

    #62852

    lagirl66
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    Hi apctech!
    I am glad to find another Iowan! Thanks for the advice. Where could I get this Extreme immunity? I thought the “critters” were the bacteria or yeast? It is immflamation? I will definetely try that. Thanks for the advice about the coco powder. This really depresses me. Now I have nothing to snack on.
    Trish

    #62857

    apctech
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    I order Extreme Immunity from that Amazon website that I linked to my previous post. You can also order it from this website.

    http://www.extremeimmunity.com/

    I think this stuff is anti-Candida, because when I first started taking it, I had die-off symptoms similar to when I started taking probiotics and coconut oil. But it was worth going through the misery of that because the IBS is so much better. If you try it, I hope it helps you!

    #62924

    Andrew111
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    Dear Lagirl66:
    Sorry to hear about your trials and tribulations with candida. It can be a very problematic issue to get rid of and of course, as you know, causes many aggravating health issues. I discovered a wonderful educational article I’d love to share with you that gives you some resources with which to fight this pesky condition. Here’s wishing you the best of health!

    Candida Education

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