- April 9, 2014 at 3:47 pm #117990
Vegan CatladyMemberTopics: 34Replies: 626
Either one of you can reply-
If a law exists that we can choose not to vaccinate our children
( I am angry that I was told my kids could not go to school without vaccinations. I value my freedom to choose, but as a mom who hates when other moms *choose* to send their sick kids to school with the flu because they dont want to miss a work-day, I have to acknowledge the importance of common-sense health practices)
what harm does that choice do to people who DO choose to vaccinate their children?
If I dont want to vaccinate, how does this harm the ones that believe in vaccinating?
I really wanted to stay out of this conversation, but my wanting to know is really the boss of me today.April 12, 2014 at 12:42 pm #118120
Please allow me to explain.
The statement “if you are vaccinated, you are protected against the disease” is really a simplification. In reality, the statement should read “if you are vaccinated, there is a 95% chance that you are protected against the disease”.
Now this 95% varies, it depends on the disease against which you are vaccinated, and it depends on the vaccine. But it’s a quite common number, so let’s use it as an example.
This means that 5% of those who are vaccinated, are not protected. That’s because vaccination sometimes just doesn’t work, for various possible reasons.
Normally, the fact that 5% of children is not protected against the disease is no problem. That’s because the other 95% of children are properly protected. Therefore, the disease cannot spread through the population. Even if the virus is imported from abroad, it will quickly die out in the vaccinated (and thus largely protected) population.
This is called group immunity. It means that though some individuals are not immune, the group as a whole is immune.
I wrote about this before. Please refer to my earlier post; start reading after the last highlighted word.
I hope this answers your question.
FloggiApril 12, 2014 at 12:45 pm #118121
I found a video that very clearly explains the concept of group immunity (which they call herd immunity in the video; though technically herd immunity is the correct term, I prefer group immunity when it applies to humans).April 15, 2014 at 12:53 am #118173
Floggi;56642 wrote: I found a video that very clearly explains the concept of group immunity (which they call herd immunity in the video; though technically herd immunity is the correct term, I prefer group immunity when it applies to humans).
Floggi;55740 wrote: I hope you are only kidding, citing Youtube as a source. If you really think Youtube is a trustworthy source, then I’m sure you believe in the Yeti and in alien abductions…April 15, 2014 at 6:28 am #118181
Trying to be funny? You failed.
You should also have quoted me saying that Youtube video’s are trustworthy if they merely explain something that is backed up by reliable data from thorough investigations by reputable researchers.
My video has these characteristics. Your video’s never have. Which illustrates the difference between you and me.August 25, 2014 at 4:10 am #120864
A Study by Focus Autism Foundation Finds: CDC Whistleblower Reveals Widespread Manipulation of Scientific Data and Top-Down Pressure on CDC Scientists to Support the Fraudulent Application of Government Policies on Vaccine Safety
August 25, 2014 at 3:39 pm #120868
You mean: another random believer in conspiracy theories has written an accusive essay.
Please provide solid proof before spreading fear.
RabelaisSeptember 3, 2014 at 6:57 am #120986
Just to be clear and so that any readers out there may not be misled, what I posted was a news story of a former CDC scientist coming forward and admitting that both himself and several other CDC scientists omitted data that linked the administration of the MMR vaccine with a rise in autism.
Here is the video released by Autism Media Channel including testimony from CDC whistleblower Thompson and Dr. Andrew Wakefield:
Co-author of this fraudulent study and director of the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities at the CDC, Coleen A. Boyle, used this study when testifying before Congress as part of a body of “evidence” which was said to support the position of there being no link between vaccines and autism.
Whistleblower Thompson has also come forward stating that injecting mercury into a pregnant woman creates a “clear and present danger” to the unborn child. He then states that mercury in flu shots can cause tics before going on to say that “tics are 4 times more prevalent in kids with autism” and that “there is biological plausibility right now to say that thimerosal causes autism-like features.”
More news articles covering this story:
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/08/27/cdc-whistle-blower-reveals-cover-up-of-vaccine-autism-link-data/September 3, 2014 at 7:27 am #120988
If he’s right and he can prove it, his view will very soon be commonplace.
If he’s just a lone misleader, his views will only live forth in the sick minds of those who are vulnerable to any conspiracy theory.
RabelaisSeptember 18, 2014 at 9:27 pm #121226
“You know I have a boss who is asking me to lie… you know, like, if I were forced to testify or something like that, if it comes to legitimate channels, and I’m forced to answer questions I’m not going to lie. I’ve basically stopped lying.” — Dr. Thompson, CDC whistleblowerSeptember 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm #121243
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For the ones that are too lazy to read the article:September 19, 2014 at 1:42 pm #121244
That’s great, isn’t it?
Congress is now involved. Things are getting out into the open.
If these guys are right, it will now be discovered and acknowledged. If these guys are all wrong, we will know too.
So, whether they are right or wrong with their accusations, we will have even more independent eyes investigating the matter. Whatever the conclusion of all these new, independent researchers, we will know the truth.
And that’s great!
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