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    mark2
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    Hello ,Dv jorge,Thomas,raster etc.I am dealing with a sevare case of ut fungal protisitis cause by antibiotis ,sevare pain ,its not responding to antifungal drugs with the diet ,i am melting away with the diet ,I did a test for mercury and found out i am poison with it and lead too.I took fluconazole and lamasil and nysatin,it respond very little ,then i tried it itra….and its not responding of may be i need it like a year of treatment,but i know this is the red form of yeast.My question which on i attact first mercury or the candida treatment,pain day and night.I did a work up with an allergist ,she said i am good and everything is functioning fine .Fed up with doctor .Any help will be appreciated.Thanks.

    mark.

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    raster
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    I would try to find a specialist/naturopath/doctor who can heal your organs all at the same time and help you chelate heavy metals. You likely would want to wait to chelate until you stabilize your symptoms and pH. If you chelate when you feel like you are feeling currently its going to make you feel worst from the research I’ve done.

    -raster

    #113653

    ThomasJoel2
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    The best way to make decisions about what to do is to be as informed as possible.

    If you decide to chelate, definitely follow Andy Cutler’s protocol. It’s definitely the safest and most effective method out there. Here’s links to his two books:
    Amalgam Illness
    Hair Test Interpretation

    This website is also extremely informative when it comes to AC chelation: http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/chelation-the-andy-cutler-protocol/

    I also highly recommend reading Amy Yasko’s books to get a broader view on the situation. Amy Yasko’s Pathways to Recovery is free and online: http://www.dramyyasko.com/wp-content/files_flutter/1327512160_9_1_1_8_pdf_02_file.pdf

    Check out this great introductory series about methylation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4uqEDK6BvM

    My dietary advice for you is to try to pinpoint what foods you react to and then avoid those foods. An elimination diet is good for this.

    #113673

    dvjorge
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    Mark,
    The red form of candida takes time to be cured. You gonna need a systemic antifungal drug for long enough. Speak with your MD to get the proper treatment. Your liver must be monitored during it.

    The dosage must be high. I would take 400 mg of Ibuprofen tablets together with the azole during the first 15 days, at least. You may need 800 or 1200 mg of Cimetidine a day too. Cimetidine will boost cell-mediated immunity. ( 400 mg /3 times a day )

    If you already tried Itraconazole and Fluconazole, I will go with Ketoconazole. This is what you need to speak with your Dr. 400 mg of Ketoconazole one single dosage. Liver enzymes must be monitored every 21 days.

    I will post some studies for your Dr. Print them and take them to him. NOTE THE FLUCONAZOLE DOSAGE 2X400mg A DAY.!

    Good Luck

    Jorge.

    These are 2013 :

    Central European Journal of Urology

    Antifungal azoles – new antidote for chronic pelvic pain?
    Bartosz Dybowski
    Department of Urology, Medical University of Warsaw, Warsaw, Poland

    Chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome
    (CP/CPPS) is a poorly-defined condition or a group
    of conditions in which chronic pain in the genital
    area and pain during prostate palpation are the two
    most common features. Causative treatment is rarely
    available since in most cases the etiology in unknown.
    Paradoxically, long-term antibiotic therapy
    is recommended and often relieves symptoms despite
    negative cultures of urine, semen or prostate biopsy
    samples. Compared to placebo drugs that are used
    as first-line therapy, it shows the following advantages:
    anti-inflammatories (risk ratio 1.7, 95% CI
    1.4-2.1; P <0.001), á-blockers (risk ratio 1.4, 95% CI
    1.1-1.8; = 0.013), antibiotics (risk ratio 1.2, 95% CI
    0.7-1.9; P = 0.527) [1]. New forms of therapy are desperately
    needed for men after the failure of first-line
    therapy. In this issue of CEJU, Dr. Ahmed F. Kotb
    and colleagues present their experience with fluconazole
    used for treating persistent CP/CPPS symptoms.
    Using fluconazole 2×400 mg PO, daily authors
    observed response rates at about 70%.

    This is a surprisingly good result bearing in mind that these patients failed primary treatment. To my knowledge,
    this is the first report in medical literature on such
    a form of CP/CPPS therapy. Although mepartricin,
    which has been found to improve symptoms for six
    or more points in the NIH-CPSI scale, has an antifungal
    effect as well, this drug does not absorb from
    intestines and its mechanism of action relies on the
    hormonal effect. Fungal etiology of CP/CPPS in otherwise
    healthy, immunologically non-compromised
    men has not been reported yet, thus these observations
    have to be considered with caution.

    Furthermore, one may find other explanations of the
    positive effects of fluconazole therapy in comparison
    to antifungals. The placebo effect is strong in chronic
    conditions that can spontaneously wane or aggravate.
    Systematic review and meta-analysis of trials
    on CP/CPPS have found that placebo improves the
    total NIH-CPSI score on average of 2.4 points (95%
    CI: 1.7-3.2). A positive effect on all specific domains
    of the score was also reported-pain: 1.34 (95% CI:
    0.88-1.79); voiding: 0.59 (95% CI: 0.33-0.84); quality
    of life: 0.95 (95% CI: 0.62-1.27). There was no evidence
    of a changing placebo effect over time [2]. For
    this reason, only placebo-controlled trials may prove
    efficacy of a specific treatment in CP/CPPS.

    Chronic pain conditions coexist with increased anxiety,
    perceived stress, and a higher profile of global
    distress when compared to asymptomatic controls.
    Both these disturbances and chronic central sensitization
    by nociceptive stimuli affect hypothalamic-
    pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, causing a decrease of
    plasma adrenocorticotropin hormone and blunting
    its stress response curve. In patients with CP/CPPS,
    cortisol levels remain intact under stress conditions
    but the slope of the awakening cortisol is steeper
    [3]. Both ketoconazole and, to the lesser extent,
    fluconazole also influence this hormonal axis by inhibiting
    synthesis of cortisol and other steroids [4].
    Hormonal effects of azoles may modulate HPA axis
    reversing the vicious circle of pain, stress, and hormonal
    dysregulation. Two drugs affecting hormonal
    milieu of the prostate, finasteride and mepartricin,
    have been proven to improve symptoms in CP/CPPS
    patients. Azoles may be a new hormonally-active
    group of agents used in this indication.
    The most recent possible explanation of fluconazole
    efficacy in CP/CPPS comes from the Texas Health
    Science Center whose researchers have reported on
    potential analgesic effects of ketoconazole [5].This
    drug has been used in their experiment as a broad-
    spectrum cytochrome P450 (CYP) inhibitor. CYP is involved
    in oxidation of linoleic acid into its metabolites
    (OLAMs) and OLAMs are agonists of the TRPV1 ion
    channel involved in transmitting pain signals from
    inflammation or injury involving tissue. In this study
    it has also been found that ketoconazole possesses
    an unexpected antihyperalgesic effect. Treatment
    with ketoconazole inhibited a release of endogenous
    TRPV1 agonists from the inflamed tissue. However,
    since ketoconazole inhibits multiple oxidative enzymes
    including CYPs, the biochemical mechanism
    of action requires further evaluation. Fluconazole
    does not have the same profile of CYP inhibition, but
    both substances share many pharmacologic and biochemical
    effects. These results are complimentary to
    clinical effects found by urologists from Egypt. All
    above hypotheses of antifungal, antisteroid, and antihyperalgesic
    effects of azoles deserve scientific attention
    before this group of agents can be involved in
    the treatment of patients with CP/CPPS.
    © 2013 Microsoft

    Chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome:
    the role of an antifungal regimen
    Ahmed Fouad Kotb, Asmaa Mohamed Ismail, Mohamed Sharafeldeen, Elsayed Yahia Elsayed
    University of Alexandria, Faculty of Medicine, Department of Urology, Alexandria, Egypt
    Key Words: prostatitis ‹› chronic pelvic pain syndrome ‹› candida ‹› antifungal
    Introduction. The role of fungal infection as a causative factor for prostatitis is currently underestimated.
    The aim of our work was to evaluate the response to an antifungal regimen in the setting of patients
    presenting with symptoms of chronic pelvic pain syndrome that have been refractory to treatment with
    antibiotics and alpha–blockers.
    Material and methods. We included 1,000 consecutive patients. The inclusion criteria included failure
    of response to four consecutive weeks of antibiotic and alpha–blockers. The antifungal regimen was
    continued for two weeks. It included a low carbohydrate diet, the alkalinization of urine, and administration
    of fluconazole.
    Results. The mean age of the patients was 34 years. Mean serum total PSA and PSA density (PSAd)
    were 0.6 ng/ml and 0.03 ng/ml/gram, respectively. The mean age, PSA, prostate volume, and PSAd for
    patients that showed good response were 33, 0.5, 17, and 0.031, respectively. Values for patients that
    did not show good response were 36, 0.8, 23, and 0.037, respectively (p <0.0001 for all of the variables).
    Improvement was observed in 80% of cases treated with the antifungal regimen.
    Conclusions. Antifungal regimen should be considered for the majority of young adult men, presenting
    with chronic prostatitis/ chronic pelvic pain syndrome and incomplete response to antibiotics.

    #113674

    mark2
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    jorge ,I believed in you ,my md say he will stop giving me more medication,i can get the medication online ,i am playing with my body to see which one works better,i was on the fluconazole for six weeks and notice a difference so i will switch back to the fluconazole ,i took ken………. for only two weeks ,my liver is perfect,U got to believed me only crandall knows about this no other doctors i can find to precribe me ,i will go back to the fluconazole ,i took books to the guy ,crandall package to him ,he refuse to read it ,i follow your post and took flu……and ibro……… and notice a difference in six week but then i switch to ita… because i read it have a better tissue penetration from your post.One uro told me its nerve,i waited it out but he was wrong,i start to notice red patches around my penis head and then ,i know its got to be an infection,Look for me you have the knowledge more than any one of these doctors in this syndrome ,u got to belevied me ,i read all your post ,I am so sorry for your suffering ,u are a life saver,believed me even if i am not cured .To help me you have to advise me ,i believe in you and its my body, i have a doctor to check my liver every 2 weeks and sonogram it too.I just cant live like this ,Where can i get the cimetidin to buy?Look I plea to you for advise.Also i am melting away with this diet ,i am getting weeker and weaker everyday,i have no intestine peoblem and not alergic to nothing .I dont believed natural stuff will cure me .Excuse my english please.I have to cure this no matter what it takes,crandall advise me to dont go crazy on the diet ,just stay away from sweets and some other stuff,but i want to have discipline .Thank you very much and god and i pray that god bless you in your recovery.thanks.

    mark.

    #113676

    dvjorge
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    mark2;52195 wrote: jorge ,I believed in you ,my md say he will stop giving me more medication,i can get the medication online ,i am playing with my body to see which one works better,i was on the fluconazole for six weeks and notice a difference so i will switch back to the fluconazole ,i took ken………. for only two weeks ,my liver is perfect,U got to believed me only crandall knows about this no other doctors i can find to precribe me ,i will go back to the fluconazole ,i took books to the guy ,crandall package to him ,he refuse to read it ,i follow your post and took flu……and ibro……… and notice a difference in six week but then i switch to ita… because i read it have a better tissue penetration from your post.One uro told me its nerve,i waited it out but he was wrong,i start to notice red patches around my penis head and then ,i know its got to be an infection,Look for me you have the knowledge more than any one of these doctors in this syndrome ,u got to belevied me ,i read all your post ,I am so sorry for your suffering ,u are a life saver,believed me even if i am not cured .To help me you have to advise me ,i believe in you and its my body, i have a doctor to check my liver every 2 weeks and sonogram it too.I just cant live like this ,Where can i get the cimetidin to buy?Look I plea to you for advise.Also i am melting away with this diet ,i am getting weeker and weaker everyday,i have no intestine peoblem and not alergic to nothing .I dont believed natural stuff will cure me .Excuse my english please.I have to cure this no matter what it takes,crandall advise me to dont go crazy on the diet ,just stay away from sweets and some other stuff,but i want to have discipline .Thank you very much and god and i pray that god bless you in your recovery.thanks.

    mark.

    I do my best to help you, but you have to remember I don’t hold a medical license. I can not prescribe you any medication but to suggest you to speak with your Drs about what you may need.

    Take them the two articles I posted to you. They are solid evidence how fungus infects the prostate and the urinary tract. Many candida strains develop rapid resistance to Fluconazole. Ibuprofen has shown to revert the acquired resistance to the azole drugs.

    I have given you information and resources to speak with your Drs. You already have enough information about what may be your situation. So, you need to find a Dr who wishes to discuss all with you.

    Jorge.

    #113679

    mark2
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    Thank u you dv jorge and will take the copies to them and i have to find one now,I think i will go will fluconazole 400 plus ibro…….. 400 mg a day for 8 months to see what happen ,then i switch to ken…zole ,thank u very much and i will keep u updated.Thanks u got cure that and I pray very soon.

    #113826

    mark2
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    HEY,Thomas joel thank u for telling me about the mercury thing ,I did the test you recommmend and got to books too ,but i am trying to get this proisitis under controll first before I start the cutler protocol.Thanks again.

    mark.

    #113846

    ThomasJoel2
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    mark2;52347 wrote: HEY,Thomas joel thank u for telling me about the mercury thing ,I did the test you recommmend and got to books too ,but i am trying to get this proisitis under controll first before I start the cutler protocol.Thanks again.

    mark.

    I’m glad to hear that. I remember when you posted a couple months ago and you seemed to be in pretty bad shape. I hope you’re doing better than you were doing then.

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