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    Alby1970
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    As I wrote in the “my stories” section, I’ve done this before.

    I really think that candida has been building in my body sense infancy. My dad was a scientist and we lived in some less developed areas. When I was 2 I tested positive for exposure to TB. I was put on an intense treatment and never developed the disease and never tested positive again. I think this treatment probably threw off my flora.

    I had recurrent ear infections as a kid and was put on many rounds of antibiotics. Besides this and allergies, I was really healthy. I look back to my adolescence and realize that I had some extreme yeast reactions but was too embarrassed to report them. In my 20’s I had horrible PMS and started to have issues with edema. I went from MD to MD and everyone told me that nothing was wrong with me. In my late 20’s I started to gain weight but couldn’t figure out why. I had always been VERY slender. I dieted and exercised like crazy and my weight slowly crept up. MDs didn’t take my concerns seriously because I was still slim (at that point 135 pounds and I’m 5’8″) they treated me as if I was just “one of those woman” who was over concerned about my weight.

    By the time I was 35 I weighed 155. We had moved and I had new MDs. I was still within “healthy weight guidelines” so my concerns were dismissed. My allergies were still terrible but I had adapted to them for so long that they didn’t bother me that much. The weight gain really bothered me.

    I got pregnant and gained a 35 pounds during my pregnancy. It was weird because I threw up constantly during my first trimester and didn’t eat anything but still gained 15 pounds. I felt like the majority of the weight was water because I was sick feeling for my whole pregnancy and didn’t eat much. I went into preterm labor at 7 months and delivered my daughter a month early. Thankfully, she is really healthy (except for allergies, excema and sinus infections…yes, I know, yeast related)

    After delivery my body kept swelling up. I dieted and exercised but I kept gaining. We moved again and MDs were now concerned. My weight was at 185. The MDs treated me as if I was a glutton who needed to get my act together. I kept gaining and found new MDs who are at the very top of their fields (endocrinologists, allergists, etc) who all agreed my weight gain wasn’t due to overeating but couldn’t
    figure out the problem.

    I started to have serious digestive problems and my stomach distended as if I was pregnant. My allergies were out of control and my skin was always breaking out in a rash. I also developed a chronic deep sinus infection and went through a major course of antibiotics for 3 months. This was 4 years ago and I still have the sinus infection.

    I discovered the candida issue about 3 years ago, started the cleanse (with the help of a specialist) and then had an outbreak of shingles and freaked out and stopped. I was under tremendous personal stress because my marriage was falling apart and, over the next two years my weight ballooned to 210 pounds! I was categorized as obese!

    About a year ago I was diagnosed with sever vitamin D deficiency. I began supplementation and dropped 15 pounds in a month. Over the next several months my weight dropped another 20 pounds with no change other than the vitamin D. Now it has frozen at about 175, my allergies are horrible, my stomach is a mess, my edema is coming back and my rashes are getting worse.

    This is what I will start tomorrow: strict diet eliminating all starch, alcohol, sugar and caffeine. I will tie lemon water in the morning, antifungals (I plan to rotate on a weekly basis between oil of oregano and caprilic acid), I will replace my coffee with dandelion root tea (for the liver) and I will also have pau d’arco tea between meals. I’m also taking psyllium husks.

    I have a whole schedule of when to take what. I’m treating this like a marathon I must run and finish. I have learned, from experience, that I cannot treat this process as something I put on the sideline and go about my life. I know, for me at least, this must be my focus for then time I am doing it.

    I’m going to have a million questions and I will really need support. Right now, I have two main questions. One, can I start probiotics right away if I take them at different times than the antifungals? And two, how long do you guys think this will take? 3 months? 6 months? A year? Forever?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Able900
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    Hello, and welcome to the forum.

    Quote: “my allergies are horrible.”
    The increase both in the strength and number of your allergies was caused by adrenal fatigue, not unusual with Candida, especially a long-standing infestation. Weakened adrenals are not able to produce enough cortisol which would normally counteract the allergy reactions, and as stated, it can also cause an increase in the number of allergens as well. Digestive Grape Bitters, an herb by the name of Ashwagandha, and nettle leaf are all helpful in building up the adrenals. In addition, if you are quite stressed over your situation, this can also be a drain on the adrenals. Acetyl-l-carnitine is good for reducing stress.

    Quote: “… can I start probiotics right away if I take them at different times than the antifungals?”
    If you haven’t been on the diet at all, then you need to be on it for at least a week before starting the probiotics or the antifungals. There’s a very good reason for this; if you’ve not been on the diet at all, then going on it will more than likely cause die-off symptoms, and sometimes depending on the degree of your infestation, this can be almost debilitating. Adding both antifungals and the probiotics will triple the die-off effect. This can not only make you feel deathly ill, but it’s very toxic and dangerous to your body. There are products which will lessen the effects of die-off, and I suggest you purchase one or both of these as soon as possible since you’re about to start the diet. Candidate from Native Remedies and Molybdenum are two of the best products available for die-off symptoms.

    Quote: “This is what I will start tomorrow: strict diet eliminating all starch, alcohol, sugar and caffeine.”
    In addition to what you’ve listed, I doubt you’ll ever conquer your Candida infestation unless you eliminate all wheat products and all diary as well (eggs are not considered diary).

    Are you using psyllium husks or the powder form? Psyllium husks are very hard on the intestines because of the sharpness and hardness. It may also cause bloating, so be prepared.

    Quote: “… how long do you guys think this will take? 3 months? 6 months? A year? Forever?”
    No one can answer this for you. Every treatment is different as it depends on the degree of the infestation as well as the dedication of the person with the infestation. But curing a Candida infestation is possible and it doesn’t have to take ‘forever’ or even a year to do so.

    Are you still taking vitamin D, and if so, what is the dosage? Is it vitamin D3 or regular D?

    Able

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    Alby1970
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    Thank you for all of the great info!

    Yes, I will be cutting out wheat and dairy…I thought I listed these.

    I appreciate the advice about waiting a week before starting the antifungals. When I did this before I started all of it at the same time and I had horrible die off. So I will follow your advice.

    I’ve taken psyllium before and had good results. I take the capsules.

    I take the Designs for Health D3 5000 mg.

    Again, thank you so much for all of this!!

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    Able900
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    Alby1970 wrote: I take the Designs for Health D3 5000 mg.
    Again, thank you so much for all of this!!

    You’re very welcome. I would definitely continue taking the D3 indefinitely.
    Able

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    Alby1970
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    Able, I saw you mentioned the connection between D deficiency and candida. Do you know if candida causes D deficiency or if D deficiency makes you more susceptible to candida?

    I was speaking to a woman today who has successfully done the candida diet. She suggested I eliminate a few things at a time rather than all at once. So, for example, days one, two and three, eliminate all grains and gluten and alcohol and sugar. Days four, five and six, also eliminate fruit. Days seven eight and nine, also eliminate dairy, after that, eliminate caffeine. Then, one week later, add the antifungals, then a week after that, add probiotics. She thinks this is easier on your system than eliminating it all at once.

    What do you think about this suggestion?

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    Diane
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    Able, I saw you mentioned the connection between D deficiency and candida. Do you know if candida causes D deficiency or if D deficiency makes you more susceptible to candida?

    I was speaking to a woman today who has successfully done the candida diet. She suggested I eliminate a few things at a time rather than all at once. So, for example, days one, two and three, eliminate all grains and gluten and alcohol and sugar. Days four, five and six, also eliminate fruit. Days seven eight and nine, also eliminate dairy, after that, eliminate caffeine. Then, one week later, add the antifungals, then a week after that, add probiotics. She thinks this is easier on your system than eliminating it all at once.

    What do you think about this suggestion?
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    Dear Alby,

    Able will probably have more info because he has loads of experience as well as loads of knowledge, however I can answer a couple of your questions I think. You wrote: I saw you mentioned the connection between D deficiency and candida. Do you know if candida causes D deficiency or if D deficiency makes you more susceptible to candida?

    Vitamin d deficiency makes you more susceptible to candida, vitamin d is very important for many functions in our body, skin just to mention one. If you read the posts between Able and myself entitled thank you able you will find a world of information, obviously candida has different reactions with different people, however I think the basis is the same, especially the diet. I lived in the most southern part of Europe, that is Malta and about 3 years ago I moved to the Netherlands. When I was in Malta I already had candida but was not sure and did not know what to do about it. When I moved to the Netherlands which is a dull grey country for most part of the year my candida got worse because of the lack of sun, hence the huge lack of vitamin D.

    With regards to elimininating foods gradually, I read in other posts that some of us cannot handle removing all foods at one so they weaned themselves off bit by bit and I see that the suggestion you were given is relatively fast. I would say listen to your body and your intuition, monitor exactly how you are feeling, watch for signs and symptoms anf eliminate as you go along. I read in your posts that you might have had candida for a very long time, so I would eliminate everything at once but thats just me. I also think that eliminating everything at once can cause huge die off and that is very unpleasant not to mention toxic for your body. Able has probably already mentioned a couple of remedies for die off i.e Molybdenum and Candidate from Native Remedies, they will help counter die off.

    After you have eliminated everything and are on stage one of the diet, it is recommended that you keep a diary of all the foods that you introduce on a daily basis. The reason for this is so that you know exactly what causes symptoms and what doesnt. It is also important to stay on stage 1 of the diet for more than 3 weeks as is suggested on this site. The reason being that rerintroducing foods prematurely can cause you to relapse, so stay on stage one of the diet for as long as you dont feel anymore symptoms and I MEAN NONE WHATSOEVER, then stay on diet for a month or so to make sure. I apologise if that sounded hard, candida is a tenacious organism and I imagine that its got quite comfortable and cushy in our systems. I mean who wouldnt want to have such a fine living room, food galore and warmth. So to eliminate it we have to be persistent and also militant at times.

    With regards as to when adding antifungals and probiotics, since you will bew eliminating foods but will not be doing the cleanse, I would say that you can start taking both the probiotics and the antifungals together from the very beginning, however I would start with small doses, once again so that you wont cause yourself discomfort through die off. I introduced the antifungals in the 2 nd week of stage 1 of the diet, i started with 4 drops of oil of oregano, i.e 2 drops twice a day, two organic goat yogurts a day and a few days later added kefir about 200 grams per day. As you progress you can increase dosage.

    Thats all for now, I hope I could answer some of your questions, if not I am sure Able will make things clearer

    Cheers and good luck

    Diane

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    Diane
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    In my previous post in the following sentence, I realised that I left an important word out, so here it is corrected

    The reason being that rerintroducing foods prematurely can cause you to relapse, so stay on stage one of the diet for as long as you dont feel anymore symptoms and I MEAN NONE WHATSOEVER, then stay on stage one of the diet for a month or so to make sure that you are completely clear.

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