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  • #79157

    dvjorge
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    orka1998 wrote: How many of you have it and did you get rid of it? If so, how long before you got rid of it (what stage)?

    It’s starting to drive me insane. It’s one of the lingering symptoms I still have and I was really hoping to get rid of. I noticed it gets worse at evening after I pop probiotic capsules. Am I imagining this or it does have some connection?

    Arijana

    It will go away if you hold the treatment. It took more than one year for me.
    Jorge.

    #79178

    Chlofloso
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    Hi Arijana,

    thanks for all the information.
    I’ve only started my probiotic recently, so I’m hopeful it will help me as well. I still didn’t manage to get good kefir grains, so I’m now only drinking kefir from a starter pack, but hopefully that will change soon. I’m eating a lot of yogurt and buckwheat in moderation. I’m taking acacia fibers as a prebiotic.

    Could you specify the antifungal therapy you were given by your doctor?

    Have a nice day!

    Chloe

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    bighopes
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    woah Arijana,
    you really have improved but are you on nystatin (antifungal medication)? I cannot continue with the nystatin unless when I get the molybdenum it helps me. I am going to just try and work with natural antifungal foods ( coconut oil and garlic) and stay on my probiotics for a while and see how it works.

    I am still having symptoms on and off – but I seem to be getting other sicknesses too – me and the baby got a vommitting bug and I also had a flu so its kind of knocking me back and I suppose I do keep playing around with my diet a little too much but I am 58kg and do not want to loose any more weight so I need to be careful and also any medical professionals I see say you should not restrict the diet too much as its unhealthy so it can be very confusing.

    My major symptoms are a sinus pressure on and off, buzzy ears, oral thrush, and I get a pain in my thigh off and on, however I have improved with my body itching, rectal itching, (totally gone) flatulence and lump in throat. I still feel a bit tired but I think my memory has sharpened a bit. I think my anxiety has improved also but I do notice that die off ( from the nystatin) causes me to be moody and irritable and thats why I cant really cope with it, I feel I’ve gone through a lot of die off so Im hoping Ive progressed to some extent too but I know its still a good way off – I suppose though at this stage Im hoping to feel symptom free soon and healthier and then I can cope well with continuing the restricted diet and natural antifungals

    I am happy to hear of your progress too, its soo good to know someone is going through the same thing cause its not easy.
    P.

    #79205

    Jo*Jo
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    I’ve just remembered another ear related problem that I had for a few years. Sometimes I would wake up with one ear feeling full or blocked and my hearing would be slightly impaired. Early on it was quite random but after a few years it would last for a couple of days and then a couple of weeks. It really affected my day to day life as i had real trouble hearing and my hearing isnt great anyway.

    I’ve always gone to audiology departments and ENT specialists at local hospitals about my hearing and I now have hearing aids but each time I went i would ask them to check the pressure on my ears and it was always fine.

    One day I decided it had to be related to something I was eating even though I never had an immediate reaction to anything.. i guess it was delayed. The first possible thing I found on the internet about it was wheat and gluten so I cut that out and I’ve not had that problem since!

    If those symptoms began around the same time that I developed candida then I have had this for around 12 years

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    orka1998
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    Chlofloso wrote: Hi Arijana,

    thanks for all the information.
    I’ve only started my probiotic recently, so I’m hopeful it will help me as well. I still didn’t manage to get good kefir grains, so I’m now only drinking kefir from a starter pack, but hopefully that will change soon. I’m eating a lot of yogurt and buckwheat in moderation. I’m taking acacia fibers as a prebiotic.

    Could you specify the antifungal therapy you were given by your doctor?

    Have a nice day!

    Chloe

    Hi Chloe,

    I was given these two meds: Macmirror Complex (drug: http://www.polichem.com/jahia/Jahia/home/site/polichem/pid/553/cache/offonce; research: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9859542) which is supposed to kill all the bad guys there, and second is Lactogyn (http://www.jgl.hr/en/products/non-prescription-programme/jgl-probiotics/lactogyn/lactogyn-capsules-15-pcs/) which is a probiotic targeting vag. flora specifically. I started with one Lactogyn and increased to two per day and am taking my regular probiotic as well.

    Do you want me to try to ship you some of my grains? You pay for shipping of course 🙂 I already promised to sent some to one other member, but mine grow so fast I will have some extra again in few days. I feel bad about throwing them away but the kefir gets much to sour if there is to much grains, plus they compete for food so they can go bad.

    Let me know.

    Arijana

    #79308

    Chlofloso
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    Hi Arijana,

    what a nice offer! That would be great! But do you think they’d survive the transport, since it might take a few days?

    You can write me a personal message with your IBAN etc. and let me know how much the shipping is, and I’ll transfer the money in advance.

    Thank you so much for your generosity!

    Chloë

    #79350

    orka1998
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    bighopes wrote: woah Arijana,
    you really have improved but are you on nystatin (antifungal medication)? I cannot continue with the nystatin unless when I get the molybdenum it helps me. I am going to just try and work with natural antifungal foods ( coconut oil and garlic) and stay on my probiotics for a while and see how it works.

    I am still having symptoms on and off – but I seem to be getting other sicknesses too – me and the baby got a vommitting bug and I also had a flu so its kind of knocking me back and I suppose I do keep playing around with my diet a little too much but I am 58kg and do not want to loose any more weight so I need to be careful and also any medical professionals I see say you should not restrict the diet too much as its unhealthy so it can be very confusing.

    My major symptoms are a sinus pressure on and off, buzzy ears, oral thrush, and I get a pain in my thigh off and on, however I have improved with my body itching, rectal itching, (totally gone) flatulence and lump in throat. I still feel a bit tired but I think my memory has sharpened a bit. I think my anxiety has improved also but I do notice that die off ( from the nystatin) causes me to be moody and irritable and thats why I cant really cope with it, I feel I’ve gone through a lot of die off so Im hoping Ive progressed to some extent too but I know its still a good way off – I suppose though at this stage Im hoping to feel symptom free soon and healthier and then I can cope well with continuing the restricted diet and natural antifungals

    I am happy to hear of your progress too, its soo good to know someone is going through the same thing cause its not easy.
    P.

    Hi bighopes,

    I am not taking nystatin orally, my OBGYN prescribed it vaginally plus probiotics which are meant for vaginal flora (see my response to Chloe above). I had a die-off from it first few days, luckily I was still taking molybdenum then, but now I get some of it, totally bearable and I did not have to take molybdenum for like 4-5 days now. When I doubled probiotic I god die-off again but its never so bad anymore. Didn’t end up in bed for a month 🙂

    I also finally resorted to taking only natural antifungals and even those with moderation (I used to get dizzy from just drinking chamomile tea). I am waiting to finish the current therapy and then will experiment with black seed oil first and see if that kicks in some die-off. I am saving coconut oil for finish line 🙂 I will be taking vacation in about two weeks and don’t plan to go anywhere so I will be able to test more antigungals then (in case I get some serious die-off). I’m sure I am not cured, but I am feeling so much better.

    Now that you mention it, my lump in the throat is gone too. I even forgot about it completely!

    We all rushed into getting rid of candida, but that seems like a wrong approach for me. For people who have smaller infestations, why not? But for some of us who experienced a reaction (die-off or some other kind) to almost anything we ate, it’s so much better to take a step back and just go very slow. Once you get stable and start getting into better mood, knock off some symptoms, it all gets so much better then and easier. At that point little die-off is not that difficult (from my own experience).

    I must tell you one thing, I realized that anxiety plays a big role here. I am not saying we don’t have symptoms, but I noticed that it also matters how you deal with them. Let me explain what I mean. Before I would test a food item, I would get some reaction, perhaps not even that serious, and I would get all stressed about it, worry about it etc. This creates a huge reaction and makes me ill over few bites of new food. Once my anxiety calmed down (it’s barely there these days), I deal with those differently and discover that sometimes it’s not a reaction in the first place but who knows what (it could be anxiety for all I know). Let me give you an example. I tested ginger past few days. I made a nice eggplant stir fry (without any soy sauce). I started eating it for lunch and I got a sensation, slight lightheadiness, heat going through my veins, increased heartbeat etc. So I stopped eating it and just ate the boiled egg. As I got busy at work, I realized none of the initial symptoms were there anymore. I was hungry so I just said heck with it, I’ll eat it and then suffer. Same thing started but I continued eating it. Half way through it was gone. I finished the meal to the end. I did feel a bit crappy, not too much, in the afternoon, but it seemed more like a die-off (not sure if ginger can cause it or something else did it) and it was gone in few hours after a cup of nettle leaf tea and lemon water (another pointer that it was probably die-off).

    So what I’m trying to say from my own experience is, stick with what you can eat with confidence, wait for all the dust to settle and for stability and clearing of most of symptoms. As long as you are experiencing die-off, candida is dying so wait for it to reduce its numbers enough and then things will settle down. Once things settle down you will regain your confidence and anxiety will go down. Once anxiety goes down you can become an observer of your symptoms and treatment progress and not get involved emotionally that much. This helps you stay objective and not cause symptoms to get worse by stressing about them.

    I am now experimenting what I can get away with eating from the approved items and I will deal with rest of the beast slowly after I am happy about what I eat and stable in terms of symptoms/die-off.

    FYI I stopped my weight loss with oat bran and butter. I am making oat bran/buckwheat bread and I don’t watch how many slices of that I have since it is all prebiotic and just feeds the good guys in the gut, I just eat however many slices I need to feel full. I also make a cream out of three tablespoons of oat bran few times a week and throw in 15 blueberries in there and a teaspoon of butter. On those days I knock off one lemon water (6 grams of sugar) and make sure not to eat tomato or some other veggy which is slightly higher in sugar. This works for me pretty well in terms of feeling full and not loosing any weight.

    I hope you get there soon bighopes!

    Arijana

    #79352

    orka1998
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    Jo*Jo wrote: I’ve just remembered another ear related problem that I had for a few years. Sometimes I would wake up with one ear feeling full or blocked and my hearing would be slightly impaired. Early on it was quite random but after a few years it would last for a couple of days and then a couple of weeks. It really affected my day to day life as i had real trouble hearing and my hearing isnt great anyway.

    I’ve always gone to audiology departments and ENT specialists at local hospitals about my hearing and I now have hearing aids but each time I went i would ask them to check the pressure on my ears and it was always fine.

    One day I decided it had to be related to something I was eating even though I never had an immediate reaction to anything.. i guess it was delayed. The first possible thing I found on the internet about it was wheat and gluten so I cut that out and I’ve not had that problem since!

    If those symptoms began around the same time that I developed candida then I have had this for around 12 years

    12 years! Outch! Shows just how useless doctors can be!

    I think my overgrowth is there for at least 25 years (since I had chronic vag. thrush for that many years), but was kept under control with good diet and healthy lifestyle for a good chunk of that (about 10 years). I just hope that it will not take me 25 years to clear this beast 🙂

    Best of luck to you Jo Jo!

    Arijana

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    orka1998
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    Chlofloso wrote: Hi Arijana,

    what a nice offer! That would be great! But do you think they’d survive the transport, since it might take a few days?

    You can write me a personal message with your IBAN etc. and let me know how much the shipping is, and I’ll transfer the money in advance.

    Thank you so much for your generosity!

    Chloë

    Well I’m thinking that if I freeze them in some milk and pack them with ice, they should be fine to travel for about two to three days. It might take you few batches to get them going, but I do think that they can survive that. It’s still cold enough outside that I think it will be fine. If I find faster shipping that is bearable in terms of cost, even better!

    Send me your mailing address via PM so I can ask about the shipping charges.

    No need to thank me. I got them for free as well and toss a bunch every few days. Better for you to use them than me to toss them. If you cover the cost of shipping, it will not cost me anything but the time to go to the post office and that’s not so bad 🙂

    I just like to pay it forward so if someone helped me, I will help someone else and so on. Life on this planet would be so much better if everyone did this once in a while…

    Arijana

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    Able900
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    orka1998 wrote: I tested ginger past few days …. I continued eating it. Half way through it was gone. I finished the meal to the end. I did feel a bit crappy, not too much, in the afternoon, but it seemed more like a die-off (not sure if ginger can cause it or something else did it)

    Hello, Arijana.

    Concerning ginger’s antifungal properties; in a study, ginger exhibited strong antifungal properties against various fungi, including strains that were resistant to presecription antifungals. So the ginger was probably the cause of the mild die-off.

    To expain to those who may not be aware, Arijana is not experiencing strong die-off symptoms right now because she’s decreased the population of the infesation significantly already therefore cutting down the amount of toxins released and as well as the degree of die-off.

    Thanks for all the information in your post.
    Able

    #79377

    orka1998
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    Able900 wrote:

    I tested ginger past few days …. I continued eating it. Half way through it was gone. I finished the meal to the end. I did feel a bit crappy, not too much, in the afternoon, but it seemed more like a die-off (not sure if ginger can cause it or something else did it)

    Hello, Arijana.

    Concerning ginger’s antifungal properties; in a study, ginger exhibited strong antifungal properties against various fungi, including strains that were resistant to presecription antifungals. So the ginger was probably the cause of the mild die-off.

    To expain to those who may not be aware, Arijana is not experiencing strong die-off symptoms right now because she’s decreased the population of the infesation significantly already therefore cutting down the amount of toxins released and as well as the degree of die-off.

    Thanks for all the information in your post.
    Able

    Thanks Able! I kind of figured since nettle tea and lemon water helped very quickly, plus the walk after lunch. The symptoms were very mild. Finally after three months of treatment I can tell them apart hahahaha…

    I think before I would confuse die-off with food reactions etc. My anxiety at times is probably what caused the reaction in the first place (I would be worried and scared of test foods). My anxiety is pretty much gone since I got better so now I will try everything at least twice and once in evenings at home as at that time I am generally much calmer than in mornings.

    For everyone new reading this post, IMO staying calm and analyzing your symptoms with a clear mind is important. Also, do not play with your diet until your symptoms are almost gone and you are stable (I did it and it didn’t go well at all!). You will not know what’s die-off and what’s a food reaction, you will aggravate your bodies and mind by doing so and get overwhelmed and stressed, all of which is not good for your treatment. Out of the food list that is presented to you (no matter which version of the diet you are following), make up your own list of foods that you can eat without any problems. Stick with that for a while until you start improving and you don’t have much die-off or other symptoms. Plus there is a learning curve with recognizing symptoms and nobody can really teach you that as it’s your body and your own symptoms. After you are stable for awhile, you can start testing one by one item and you will be able to clearly tell what your reactions were.

    Good luck everyone!

    Arijana

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