- June 4, 2013 at 6:41 pm #105647
I never thought I would be as sick as I am now. I am still trying to figure out how I got this sick. All I can do is make assumptions. But I am consumed by trying to cure this Candida and definitely need some support.
I have always suffered with acne, and so at about 19, I was told by an ND to basically be vegan and gluten free. I tried on and off for years and definitely improved my health through cleansing. But always still had acne.
When I was in HS, I remember I got a yeast infection so bad I went to the emergency room. But the yeast infections always went away. I ate so unhealthy then. But now, after 17 years of eating pretty healthy (organic, vegetarian), I have the worst overgrowth of candida I have ever had in my life.
It started I think, because of a new relationship that had a very stressful ex wife and step-child. The relationship is amazing but the baggage he came with took a lot too sort out. That has all gotten better now, but the 2 years of severe stress, not too mention relocation away from friends, and all my self-love issues coming up because I am finally in a loving relationship, finally wore me down.
I have always picked my skin due to OCD and Acne, but it got so bad from the stress of this life that I was willing to finally go on antibiotics for my skin. I went on Doxycycline for 2 months, then Benzamycin topically for 5 months. My skin did improve, but suddenly one day I found myself with a really bad yeast infection: worse than I had ever had. It was vaginal, but I was vomiting, and feverish. I was on probiotics while on the antibiotic, but only a low one. I stopped the antibiotic, and then I started oregano oil. I cut out the yeast food, but not in a very strict way. The infection went away and now came back with a fury. My immune system has grown so weak over the past 5 months, that I have had a sinus infection, an ear infection, and now the most recent, genital warts from the hpv virus. I never had warts nor was diagnosed with hpv ever. I have been with the same person now for years. It seems that hpv can lie dormant, and when you immune system is low, the warts can come out. I am devastated from this illness. I have struggled with food because sometimes I would think something was ok, and if it had one item in it like yeast or sugar, I become severly itchy in the genital area. I also have now had fungal dry feet and blisters, as well, as the latest one: eczema under my wedding ring. It just keeps getting more and more ailments.
Now I have realized, the only way I can be safe is if I cook all my own food, so when my husband goes out to eat, I eat beforehand, than sit with him while I drink water. I have become so depressed because I am overwhelmed about treating all the causes that made this get so bad. I did one cleanse and saw some worms in the stool, so now I just started another cleanse for parasites. Next, I will do the candida cleanse. I am overwhelmed by all the information and modes of though about candida. I feel so helpless and confused as what protocal is right for me. For example, the yeast infection advidor says to use all these different antifungals and alternate. I have spent so much money already on 3 cleanses, garlic, oregano oil, vitamin C, probiotics, coconut oil, and all the organic vegetables for green juice which I go through fast. I don’t have medical insurance, but I am going to get some and go to a MD/ND Gyno for help as I am literally overwhelmed at which treatment to do.
I feel like I am a horrible wife as all I do is talk about recovering from this because there are some days where I have been so itchy I feel insane. Then to have to leave the room to shower and douche two times a day or to be stranded out to somewhere and not be able to douche sucks! Then I have tried inserting probiotics, which seems to help, but then it is running out of me all day long. I feel like I can’t wear underwear or pant anymore, I am so uncomfortable between healing warts and fungus, this is a nightmare! After 18 years of being sexually active, NOW I get warts, in my monogamous relationship!? He has hpv wart on his hand so I probably got this from him, but most people can fight of the HPV, but for me it has been hard with the candida. Oh, please, I need some support. I cry daily, and feel I am cursed. I seriously have questioned whether someone put a curse on me becuase the onset was so sudden and it was not like I was on antibiotics for years. I do feel this has probably been the root of my acne, so I am trying to see it as gift to finally heal it once and for all. Plus, I wonder what the emotionally aspects of self-hatred may be a root of this. I would love feedback and some positive support. Thanks for reading! I need to connect with others bad!June 4, 2013 at 7:39 pm #105651
rasterParticipantTopics: 104Replies: 6828
Well here is some info that will hopefully reduce your stress; the cleanses are not going to heal your infestation and don’t do too much in reducing the candida or parasites numbers. You are still going to have candida and parasites cleanse or no cleanse.
Another thing worth mentioning is that it takes a long time to get better; I tell most forum members to plan on a 6-18 month recovery time to get over candida overgrowth. You have to do the diet strictly the whole time with few slipups.
If you were to consult a good naturopathic doctor, you likely will save yourself a lot of stress, time, effort, and money and hassle. You need a holistic approach where you heal multiple organs all at once.
If you are looking at the roots of the infestation, I would look no further than antibiotics, vaccines, and heavy metals.
-rasterJune 4, 2013 at 7:51 pm #105655
Yes, thank you. I made an appt and the doctor is not available for 2 weeks. Does anyone know if corn is bad? I thought it would be ok, and then I ate some corn chips and now I am currently in severe distress, itching. I tried a tea tree oil, acv douche, and even this is not helping right now. I might run and get Diflucan just to hold me till I see the doctor. I didn’t want to stress my liver since I have been cleansing, but I need some relief. Any thoughts also on diflucan?June 4, 2013 at 8:02 pm #105656
And Raster thank you for the info and for taking the time to respond. I do have Mercury in my teeth, and have never been able to afford to take it out since insurance doesn’t cover it. I saw a heavy metal clearing supplement on one of the anti yeast sites, but again, not sure if I should take it. I had vaccines when I was a baby and that is all. I am shocked that 5 months of antibiotics made me this sick, but it is the only thing I did before this happened. I never took antibiotics in for the past 15 years other than once for a week. I have always healed things holistically. But I guess do you think the 5 months was enough to screw me up this bad? And it was 5 months of topical cream, only 2 of internal antibiotics for skin.June 4, 2013 at 10:06 pm #105664
rasterParticipantTopics: 104Replies: 6828
Antibiotics stand for “against life” and destroy both the beneficial and bad flora in your gut. You likely lost billions of beneficial bacteria, some of which may never return.
Corn is not allowed on the diet because it is highly inflammatory, contains high levels of sugar, is high the glycemic index, is likely not organic (genetically modified), and its high in starch which should be avoided on the diet.
Email able900 for a copy of the forum food list if you are interested in seeing what people on the forum are doing to get better.
Check out Dr. Mcoombs if you want to get educated on candida, his latest podcast is titled “antibiotics: the pathway to disease.”
His plan involves eating fruit which we don’t recommend on the forum whatsoever, especially when starting out.
-rasterJune 5, 2013 at 1:09 am #105676
If douching is the only thing that makes you comfortable, then keep doing it, I guess, but I’ve read a lot of stuff about how douching directly contributes to yeast infections and increases the risk of PID. Maybe also try using virgin coconut oil topically/internally over the whole affected area. It’s antifungal and antiviral, so it should help with both the yeast and HPV.
I agree with Raster that you should get in touch with Able900 to get a copy of his food list. It’s strict but it takes out the guesswork. Here’s a link to the protocol Able and Raster put together that most of us here are following: http://www.thecandidadiet.com/forum/yaf_postst1334_From-Able-and-Raster-The-Protocol.aspxJune 5, 2013 at 9:40 am #105690
LeeanneMemberTopics: 2Replies: 10
Poor you, that sounds bloody awful! I’m fairly new also, but it sounds like we’re all in the same boat one way or another. Personally, I dont have a problem with itching etc. but I heard that soaking an organic tampon in Virgin coconut oil can help. I think following Able and Raster’s Protocol will help greatly also. You seem to be eating lots of food that you probably shouldn’t. A positive attitude towards healing and beating down the depression is key also. The mind, body & spirit all need to be balanced or it could hinder progress…I don’t blame you for feeling so crap right now though! It’s a huge task but you can take comfort in knowing most of us are going through (or have been through) a rough time and there are wonderful people on the forum ready to offer advice and support.
GOOD LUCK!June 5, 2013 at 11:10 am #105691
KeyaMemberTopics: 3Replies: 68
To fight the itching symptoms in the vaginal area I recommend probiotic vaginal pills or tea tree oil and cantarion oil. Put one drop of tea tree oil on the buffer (not more because it’s strong) and a lot of cantarion oil. I tried douching with boric acid and it didn’t work for me. Besides that, follow the protocol and keep positive about getting healthy.June 5, 2013 at 12:59 pm #105695
Wow thank you everyone for these suggestions. I have some questions and response. I checked out the links you all posted and did PM Able about the strict diet. I have been reading and researching since I started getting sick for 5 months, so I understand a lot about this and have been trying to adhere to the diet, but think I have been confused because some people say one thing, and some another. For example, some are totally against nuts, and then some sites say Almonds and Walnuts that are raw are ok. Just not cashews due to mold. I am under the impression that each person is slightly different and can handle different things. For example, I noticed itching for me from eating buckwheat. But not quinoa. I thought I could try corn, and I should have done more research about it because yesterday was horrible! I would like to adhere to the strictest of all diet so I have as little problems as possible. After five months of thinking I could only mostly be strict, for the past couple days I am committed to eating whatever I need to even if it is just the same 3 meals every day, I don’t care. I just want to get better.
Currently, I am eating these items and hope they are ok:
For breakfast sometimes: walnut, almond milk (unsweetened), stevia, and avocado smoothie;
Almond meal “cake” made with coconut butter frosting made with stevia. This cake is raw with almond flour and coconut butter with lecithin to keep it sticking together; Or a green juice with lemon, cucumber, celery, parsley, ginger (all organic). Sometimes I have steel cut oatmeal with sour blueberries (not sure about it, but it seems ok, however, who knows if there is a delayed response)
Lunch: Homemade lentil soup made with lentils, water, and herbs like garlic, tumeric, and cayenne. Some other site said beans are bad, but I seem to be ok digesting them. I take enzymes with each meal. I also take 4 enzymes at bedtime to dissolve bacterias and viruses in blood stream.
Dinner: Salmon or Mahi with a vegetable, or all vegetables steamed with Brown rice pasta in olive oil and garlic or a big salad with avocado, olives, cucumber, radishes and lemon, olive oil, and sea salt.
Snacks: hummus with quinoia crackers. Ezekial Sprouted Wheat flourless/yeast free bread with spoon of raw unsweetened almond butter. I don’t seem to be bothered by it. I usually have a strong reaction after i eat something. maybe this is delayed??
Morning tea: rooibos.
I am also on Molybdenum one to two times a day. Should I be taking more? When I do 100 billion probiotic a day i feel feverish and low energy. If I only take 50 billion I seem normal.
QUESTION: Probiotic: I haven’t been doing a homeade one. I heard the non-homeade ones can be weak and have mold, is this why you guys do the homeade one? Did you get your Kefir Mix from health food store? I think I am allergic to dairy and weary of using yogurt. Coconut Kefir is great but I don’t have the means to store a bunch of coconuts and make myself, and it is too expensive to buy, though I may end up just buying it if you guys really think the premade probiotics are bad. I have using 50 billion twice a day of Ultimate Flora, Vaginal Support.
Now I read Able’s post and I was alternating sloppily with breaks of sometimes no antifungal when I was out. I also need more antifungals. I was doing garlic capsules for 5 days, then oil of oregano, then I tried cinnamon (I had an allergic reaction). I just bought the coconut oil so now I am going to do the protocal listed here of amounts and alternating as advised. I am going to replace the cinnamon with thyme tea.
I also have already done a full body/intestinal cleanse that I completed 2 weeks ago, and now am on a parasite cleanse. Raster, I know you said it doesn’t help.I have read that sometimes the root of the yeast is because the immune is down from parasites. I figured it was worth a try.
Question: How does what I am doing above look? Why take Caprylic acid, if you are taking Coconut Oil Daily when they seem to have the same thing in them?
Question: Yesterday I went a got Diflucan the Gyno had prescribed me for immediate relief. My thought was if I get on the right track with the diet, and get all my antifungals right, the one dose of Diflucan could jump start the die off and bring me some relief. Does anyone think I have set myself back from starting Diflucan? Will the yeast rebel and does the Diflucan wear off, or if I am on the diet and using natural antifungals will it just pick up where Diflucan left off?
I tell you, after I took the Diflucan, it was the biggest relief I have had in a 2 weeks. I felt like things were getting worse. The anal and vaginal area were now BOTH on fire and itchy (sorry to be so graphic but I dont know how else to share it), and I couldn’t function regardless of douche and inserted probiotic before I took the Diflucan (probably from the darn corn).
In terms of douching, I have been just putting a probiotic, and tea tree oil in water as my douche. Do you think that solution is exacerbating the issue? I know regular douche’s make matter worse. Never would touch those.
Thanks again so much everyone. I do agree with the mind body spirit part. It is all so overwhelming because I feel like I’m trying so much. I heard the root of candida emotionally is fear, so I am doing two kundalini yoga/meditations every day for fear and balancing the unconscious. I worry I am somehow trying to keep love out. As a woman, when you have vaginal candida, this kind of shutsdown your sex life, and i am worried, I am unconsciously sabotaging the only real healthy love I have ever had. My husband is sticking by my side, but he gets depressed when he sees me so upset, and then to be sexless on top of that, I fear he will lose all his love for me. He is a great guy, but human. How much can a person take someone being depressed and sick. Yes, marriage is through sickness and health, I just don’t want him to suffer. I fear I have created this whole candida issue emotionally due to fear of receiving true love. I have never been so happy with someone as my husband makes me, and I wonder if it just brings up fear of abandonment, which makes me subconsciously push love away before HE abandon’s me. You would think marriage would be enough to make me secure. Any other people have thoughts on the emotional reasons as a women to have vaginal candida? I have always thought it was pushing people away, and pushing intimacy away.
I also fear I may be sabatoging this because we moved here for my step daughter, and i left all my friends behind. Part of me wonders if I am somehow trying to sabotage this through having an illness so I can go back to my old “easy” life where I had lots of friends. But, that life was lonely anyway. I had no partner in life. I am definitely happier with him in my life.
See, this Candida feels so multi-faceted. It feels like it takes so much to undo, and clear, on all levels. How will I do it all? How are you doing it all?
As far as the HPV, it looks like it is fading thank goodness for my cleanse, and ACV/Teatree/Oregano Oil on the warts. I get a final treatment from the gyno for 2 tiny ones tomorrow, and then I should only have the Candida to deal with, thank goodness.
Thank you, Gratitude for you help. I have been alone dealing with this in my head, neurotically. It is nice to express.June 5, 2013 at 1:21 pm #105696
KeyaMemberTopics: 3Replies: 68
Regarding the douches, I’m not an expert, but a lot of doctors say it’ll do more harm than benefit, because they flush good bacteria along with the bad ones, and make epithelia more sensitive. I’ve tried them though, because I’m at the point when I’ll try anything, but they didn’t help me unfortunately.
Regarding the cause of vaginal candidiasis, I was also wondering the same question, but didn’t find the answer yet. Louise Hay says that female problems mean “denial of the self and rejecting the feminine aspects within”, but personally I think it’s different from person to person, and maybe my cause is different from yours, although we have the same problem. So basically I think we have to individually find it in ourselves, but maybe the cause isn’t so important, it’s more important to focus on healing and getting better. I definitely support meditation, I also started it recently, and it really helps me with my depression and mood swings.June 5, 2013 at 2:03 pm #105701
Hi Keya, thanks for staying connected. I just read your thread and I guess we both have the vaginal itching and burning. I will update how the Diflucan is helping me and i would love if you would do the same. I have heard the Diflucan helps only temporarily but I am wondering if that is because people are not on antifungals and doing the correct diet. Did you get it? I have 100% no symptoms today but have yet to eat. I am afraid of food now! I also got kind of scared when I read that people periods are not coming. I worry about the Moybdenum off setting my mineral balance.
Maybe instead of douching I will just insert the probiotic each night and hope for the best.
I forgot to add more supplements I am on:
4000 mg Vitamin C
One Omega 3
One B complex
I also take a colon cleanse every night called Fibrazon to help stay regular. It has Pau D Arco, Psyllium Husk, Artichoke, Licorice root.
And I take 1/4 cup of aloe juice every day.
I will update after i eat. I am going to do just green juice today for breakfast.
I forgot to add I also eat eggs with lentils on the side sometimes. I am going to have eggs and salad for lunch.
Dinner Mahi and veggies. I do eat sweet potato with no issues. I eat fish only once or twice a week. No other meats.
All this does cost a lot of money and i feel like I work to heal myself!!!!!
Oh and another thing i am concerned about but seems to not bother me is i eat Ezekial Sprouted wheat bread 2 xs a week and spoons of almond butter (raw unsweetened).June 5, 2013 at 2:30 pm #105707
Here is the yoga/meditation for Candida sufferers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDLfmxs-LuEJune 5, 2013 at 2:59 pm #105711
Once you read Able’s food list you’ll have complete information about what you should be eating, but a couple of things quickly:
-The Ezekiel bread contains gluten, and even if you don’t have a gluten allergy/intolerance per se, it’s still an inflammatory food and is best avoided while trying to heal yourself.
-You can swap steel cut oats for oat bran. Oat bran has half the carbs of steel cut oats.
-Aside from a lot of starch, which is best to be avoided, beans/legumes also contain phytate (or phytic acid), which is an anti-nutritive compound that robs the body of minerals like iron and zinc. This is also present in seeds and nuts. It’s the reason for the sprouting craze, since soaking/sprouting deactivates it. In the early stages of treatment, it’s recommended to avoid legumes, seeds, and nuts.
Some people who are allergic to dairy can have kefir, since the kefir grains feed on the lactose. Alternately, you can make it with goat milk, if cow milk specifically causes a problem for you. If you find you can’t have any kind of animal milk kefir, you can make it with coconut milk (using canned coconut milk — no need to store coconuts), but eventually your kefir grains will die if they don’t get back into animal milk periodically. I make coconut milk kefir for myself, but I also make goat milk kefir on the side for a housemate, so that my grains get refreshed. I just rinse the grains well when I switch them (once a week), since animal milk makes my stomach feel terrible. There’s also water kefir, which is made with different grains but has similar properties. If you look up the “Kefir Lady” website, I think that’s where a lot of people on here get their information and where they bought their grains. Also, since you live in Brooklyn, there’s a really good probability you can buy kefir grains from someone near you. Check Craigslist.
Good luck with everything!June 6, 2013 at 2:14 pm #105820
Thanks Shayfo, I’m going to try Coconut Kefir as soon as I can get out to Whole Foods. Used to drink it in the past and love it.June 6, 2013 at 2:20 pm #105821
Bear in mind that making it at home will be more potent than the store-bought kind.
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