I’m finding this all very interesting. I tried making kefir and after a few weeks of stuff that tasted just like spoiled milk I gave up and bought it at a store (grass fed organic) But now my joints started hurting again (that was the first symptom to go when I started the candida diet) so I’m off of kefir now. Hoping I can try it again as some point. I’m thinking the achey joints are due to leaky gut….????