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Javizy wrote: It’s true in general because you’ll never have a decent digestive or immune system without strong colonies of various strains of probiotics, and as long as you have bad digestion and immunity, you’ll have candida. Able has said that a good probiotic will be the single most important thing in your battle with candida. The diet and anti-fungals simply help control the candida and create a beneficial environment for probiotics. Probiotics are a pretty interesting topic to read up on. They play vital roles in all sorts of bodily functions; they’re not just a supplement you need to take when you’re sick.
Your answer is close but not specific to the cause.
The most important part of an anticandida battle is to unload the immune system. It is the immune system which can prevent the overgrowth and the opportunistic attack of candida in the mucous membranes (intestinal and genital are considered results of this syndrome )
The reason because many people fail with a popular treatment is because they have underlying factors avoiding the necessary immune recuperation to eliminate the infection, and this include the proper candida overgrowth.
The key is to unload the immune system to break the immune tolerance to the presence of the fungus. It has to be done for enough time to allow the immune system recognize candida as an enemy again.
The immune system is an army with limited soldiers. This army is able to hold some battles in different parts of the body, but it the attackers are many, there will be a moment where there isn’t more soldiers to defend other parts. This is the moment that an opportunistic pathogen approach.
For instance, a person who has stress, a diet of sugary and refined carbohydrates, H. Pylori, Herpes Virus, a high level of metal toxicity in the body, hidden parasites, food allergies and environmental allergies, smoke, drink alcohol, etc.
See how many immune suppressors are affecting that person and all of them add load to the immune system, specially neutralizing the Th1 immune response. In addiction to it, that person develops a fungal overgrowth that also add a big load to the immune system and suppress it. Then, it is almost impossible for that person to end with a fungal overgrowth having such as loaded immune system.
To revert it, you must unload the immune system including the anticandida treatment and immune support supplements. Over time, there will be a moment where the presence of yeast be very low that the immune system won’t accept it again as it has to be in normal people. The man who dedicated all his life to bring this syndrome to the light of the medical community has said that CRC (Candida Related Complex) is an overtime adquired immune tolerance to candida caused by its ability of colonizing the tissues during a period of time. There is a moment where the immune system stop attacking the fungus and accept it as a normal part of the body. This is the cause of this syndrome. The gut microbiota ecology has a direct competitive effect avoiding tissue colonization by candida. It is part of the tools that defend the intestines of a fungal colonization but it isn’t the main and most important defense against the fungus. Science is trying to determine the direct effects and influence of the gut microbiota in the immune function, but the research is still premature. The fact is it isn’t necessary to have a disrupted intestinal flora to develop this syndrome. People with a “normal” or no affected flora also develop this syndrome if some immune suppressors are present. The growing of candida is proportional to the immune response and not a flora state dependable. You can have a good intestinal flora but a loaded immune system caused by things such as what I mentioned and develop a mucosal fungal overgrowth intestinal and genital.
This are words of the pioneer MDs who have researched this syndrome.
The opposite are things you and me find in the web written by who knows trying to experiment with it.
I hope this help you in your battle.