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raster;52060 wrote: So you are upset that I suggest that you don’t need testing even though you are telling people what suppplements to take without testing? Sounds like your hypocritical about this.
And how is methylation cycles related to genetics?
And how much per month do you spend on methylation supplements? Top grade glutathione alone costs about $100 per month so I stand by my statement on the costs.
What causes the methylation cycle to break down in the first place? My naturopath thinks its gluten and caseine. Likely not by itself but he did mention this. Is this a false statement?
And shouldn’t you get the inflammation under control before you do this (which directly relates to bodily pH)?
My advice to people is that you can fix the cycle but it can become undone as quickly as you fix it. This isn’t something you fix and then be completely normal unless you address fundamental basic problems within the body first such as inflammation, diet, yeast and disease levels, etc. If people are jumping straight into this without doing basic stuff first, its a lost cost imho. Especially if they treat themselves which is what you suggest. I don’t think anyone should do something so complex unless they consult a professional. You are trying to give professional level advice and I think is problematic.
I think i’ve said NOT to take anything without testing about a million times.
Read mthfr.com or Dr amy yasko’s site or just google it. Long answer, basically without enzymes these processes are slowed down. The snp’s relate to enzyme production.
When im doing my full protocol, im spending about $20 a month. My vitamin c has phosphatidylcholine in it, a source of choline is a good thing to add, so half of that cost would be an extra $15. Right now im just addressing my major snp’s and its only maybe $2. Not including the choline. Glutathione supplementation has the potential to crash the methylation cycle worse than anything mentioned, plus its not a requirement in getting methylation started. In fact, anything that can cause a significant rise in glutathione production that is out of balance with b12 in the body can cause this to happen to a degree. That goes for cysteine sup’s and all that. The body has its own very particular way of keeping things in balance and methyl b12 needs to precede glutathione in order to maintain that critical balance. That is the safest way. Its hard to understand without understanding the whole cycle and the actual physical process that happens in the body. Most people dont use it, for many different reasons.
Typically, genetic snp’s compounded by toxicity, heavy metals are the worst, but anything that hampers enzymatic activity can do it. A high prolonged level of inflammation, especially in the gut leading to malabsorbtion, is a solid third place and a completely processed diet with very little micronutrients and natural forms of vitamins surely doesnt help. If a person is having a dramatic prolonged immune response to gluten or casein then it sure doesnt help, its not really a leading cause by any means. In fact, its typically the other way around.
HELL YES a person should get inflammation under control first. Some people experience a reduction in inflammation that would have otherwise not been possible without supplementation, but those are the exception. The rule is methyl sup’s are gasoline and inflammation is the fire. I recommend playing it safe. Age really seems to effect this too, younger people typically do better. Nobody seems to pay attention to this, or at least mention it, but probably next to nobody has read through as many case histories of as diverse backgrounds as me either.
That all depends. Theres many many sides to this coin. Some effects of changing things can last a long time while others might disappear in a week, and its different for every aspect and influenced area, and there are a million variables. Thats a very broad statement that is almost impossible to answer really, you dont really understand what you are saying. You cant tell how any of it is going to turn out until you try it. Im done repeating myself on what ive recommended. And like I said, I dont think many people here are going to find a doctor as well studied in this particular area as I am, so I like to have input to keep them from getting hurt by doctors or whatever that do not know what they are doing. Theres alot of them, and its easy to make mistakes with bad consequences.