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What causes kidney stones?
The leading cause of kidney stones is a lack of water. Stones commonly have been found in those that drink less than the recommended eight to ten glasses of water a day. When there is not enough water to dilute the uric acid (component of urine), the pH level within the kidneys drops and becomes more acidic. An excessively acidic environment in the kidneys is conducive to the formation of kidney stones.
Medical conditions such as Crohn’s disease, urinary tract infections, renal tubular acidosis, hyperparathyroidism, medullary sponge kidney, and Dent’s disease have been known to lead to kidney stones. It also has been suggested that water fluoridation – the addition of fluoride to drinking water – is responsible for some cases of kidney stones.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/154193.php

Web MD had quite a bit on it, in many different articles: http://www.webmd.com/kidney-stones/understanding-kidney-stones-basics

Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/kidney-stones/basics/causes/con-20024829

“A high-protein diet may worsen kidney function in people with kidney disease because your body may have trouble eliminating all the waste products of protein metabolism. “
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/high-protein-diets/faq-20058207

“The chance of getting these side effects increases the more vitamin C you take. Amounts higher than 2000 mg per day are POSSIBLY UNSAFE and may cause a lot of side effects, including kidney stones and severe diarrhea. In people who have had a kidney stone, amounts greater than 1000 mg per day greatly increase the risk of kidney stone recurrence. “
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/1001.html

Now, I can go on and on, with why just watching your oxalates are not enough to avoid stones.

Because vitamin C has the potential to alter the body’s chemistry in higher than normal amounts, I feel it is irresponsible at best to make a sweeping statement that there is NO connection between vitamin c and kidney stones.

I really do agree that western medical sites are suspiciously against us taking our health into our own hands.
I also really agree there is incentive for bending the truth, even straight-out LYING so that we feel fearful and discouraged.

I take high amounts of vit c, so I would be a hypocrite to tell another not to.

In the interest of being SAFE to another poster who has not potentially done the research we have done, I feel that we need to be careful with sweeping statements that give people who might have particular medical issues a sense of false security.