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goingnatural;42286 wrote: Hi all, the health puzzle for many of us is indeed tricky. I think that it is rarely one thing that is causing all of our maladies. Rather, it is a combination of things that can cause us to feel unwell and that is why it is important to see a professional to look at the whole, individual, picture. Of course that is not always possible or affordable. With this in mind there is increasing attention to the Candida Adrenal Fatigue Connection.
A little bit about the adrenals[/b]
The adrenals sit above the kidneys and underneath our 12th rib they play a significant role in our body. They regulate cortisol (stress hormone), our circadian rhythms (sleep cycle), aldosterone (blood pressure), fight or flight response (epinephrine and norepinephrine), sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) and other hormones. Many things can “wear out” the adrenals such as prolonged stress, steroids, poor diet, and a candida infection.
10 Symptoms of Adrenal Fatigue Include:
1. Feeling wired and unable to relax
2. Brain fog
3. Food intolerances
5. Insomnia/sleep difficulties
6. Muscle pain for no known reason
8. Low thyroid function
9. Low sex drive
10. Hypoglycemia (despite “normal” blood sugar tests)
Treatment of Adrenal Fatigue[/b][/b]
The good news is many of us are already doing the right thing by: changing our diet, taking vitamin c, and avoiding foods that we are allergic/intolerant to. But, there are other things you may not be doing and I wanted to mention a few:
* Taking B complex vitamins, especially P25, folic acid, b12
* Taking vitamin E
* Taking magnesium/calcium
* A good multivitamin with trace vitamins, zinc, manganese, selenium, molybdenum, chromium, iodine, zinc
* Sauna therapy
* Eating meals (with protein) every 3-4 hours to avoid blood sugar imbalances
I personally have benefited tremendously from a doctor prescribed[/b] set of adrenal extracts (after measuring my cortisol levels via a 24 hour urine connection): #1 – Isocort and #2 – Adrenal Complex ([/b]dosage is individualized but feel free to PM me for more information).
Most of the information gleemed for this came from “Adrenal Fatigue The 21st Century Stress Syndrome” written by James Wilson PhD.
As always to healing!
I dealt with it. It sucks. Its all part of this shithole.
AF/Candida/Leaky Gut/Heavy Metals/Thyroid ETC all come together a lot of the times. It take several months to a year to fully recover usually IMO. Adrenal fatigue really just takes time and rest to heal in my experience. In addition to what you said.
You seem to have a very negative tone. Let’s have a decent, worthy conversation, okay?
First, I don’t know the food pyramid you mention. I guess it’s an American thing, and my first guess would be that it is the equivalent of what is known as the “disc of five” in my country. This “disc of five” is a disc, like a round plate, with five segments. Each of the five segments contains examples of a type of food. The accompanying text explains that you have to vary your food intake over all five segments. It also mentions the minimum and the advised amounts of foods from each segment.
Is your food pyramid similar?
If so, then it’s not “retarded”. It’s simplified, okay, but calling it “retarded” would be denigrating. Remember that the goal of those schemes is not to provide an in-depth scientific essay. Instead, it’s aimed at the general population. Therefore, it must be easy to understand and easy to remember, even if that involves some simplification.
For the general population, this is an excellent approach, because they would know nothing without such guidance. For you and me, it’s a rough approximation only, because we have the interest and the brains to go a few levels deeper than just the surface.
Back to BPA. BPA mimics estrogen, which is a hormone. Putting BPA into your body is the same as burdening your system with an overdose of estrogen. That’s a bad thing. A very, very bad thing. Because estrogen regulates lots of processes in the body, many of which are gender-related. You really do not want to mess up that system.
The fact that “consuming” BPA stresses the body’s hormone system, causing several disbalances and development disorders, was the very reason for declaring BPA a toxic substance and banning it from all food containers, including bottles and drinking mugs.
A last word about mercury. It’s poisonous, allright. The question is: do the extremely low amounts of mercury that are released from dental fillings cause any measurable effect? The answer is: not that we know of. You can read this in the links I provided. And, be assured that I provided only a very small portion of all the many, many links I found.
One thing that is often mentioned is the theory that mercury might pass the blood-brain barrier and end up in the brain. Therefore, brain mercury has been measured in several persons after they died. Some had lots of amalgam fillings during many decades of their lives, others had few or no fillings.
The result of these measurements is that there is NO relation between amalgam fillings and the amount of mercury in the brain. In other words, this “danger” has been proven to be only theoretical. Worry about it as much as you like, but you would only be causing yourself lots of unnecessary stress.
In contrast, the dangers of BPA, which disrupts the hormone system, are very real. The main problem is that some circles would rather not hear about the (relative) safety of amalgam and the certain danger of BPA.
Yeah I was pretty pissed from die off when I wrote that.
I had a bad teeth grinding problem. Removed my filling. Oh my god I felt like shit for about 2 weeks afterward. No doubt it was the mercury.
Not saying BPA is safe. I’m going to find BPA free fillings after these current ones wear down. I know they exist. BPA is definitely bad for you.
Mercury on the other hand is the greater of two evils. There have been many reports of people have to chelate for years to improve themselves. I don’t even have to argue about how bad it is for you. Mercury has no place in the mouth.
Some of us are worse at detoxing than others. Some people can detox mercury fine, some can’t. Theres also many other variables.
ChinUp;42233 wrote: Here is what I do:
Put grains in a clean jar
Fill with organic, grass-fed, non-homogenized milk leaving about an inch from the top
Cover with plastic wrap (to allow air to escape)
Let ferment 24-48 hours in dark at room temperature (usually 48 hours)
Strain with a plastic strainer to separate kefir grains from kefir. Use a wooden spoon to stir and help strain.
Pour kefir into a clean jar or bottle, cover with plastic wrap and let ferment for another 24-48 hours in the dark at room temperature. IMPORTANT to do this so all the sugar and lactose is gone, plus more probiotics.
After this period, put it in the fridge and you can consume as you please. I like mine plain, but hemp protein powder is good with it too. I’m sure stevia and blueberries would be tasty.
I always start a new batch when I separate the grains.
Shake up your jar during the fermenting process.
Don’t use metal jar lids, as the probiotics don’t get along with metals (though stainless steel is fine)
It should start to look thick once it is ready, and you can smell it to tell if it is ripe
Yup. I put the grains in a small cup and let it ferment overnight. I couldnt find the grains so I poured all that into a bigger container and let that ferment.
Then I took 7/8 of that as I could not find the grains as they were too small and drank it. So I put that 1/8 that wouldn’t go through the strainer in a new container with milk. I figure the grains are in there somewhere.
It definitely wasn’t done as it gave me my typical milk lactose reaction. That and some bad die off. Means I’m doing something right.
If I put some sach boularii would that culture and become part of the keifer also? I might do that too..
LOL. The same FDA that supports our food pyramid and other retarded things?
Have you seen how the government works? Lobbiests pay money and things stay how they are. I don’t put much trust into the gov’t. They’re people and screw up a lot too.
But between BPA and mercury. I would take BPA anyday. We all know mercury is VERY toxic.
First off your science stuff is crap. LOL. The Dental Association would look very bad if they suddenly recalled amalgam fillings.
Amalgam is an alloy. That means the HG is not binded to anything. It is simply a mixture of Mercury, tin and other things.
The mercury is NOT bounded to any other atoms chemically, it is only joined up physically together.
So when it is ground on and other things, Mercury is getting released into you as well as tin silver and other metals. Not some harmless compound with mercury as part of it.
Mercury is bad in any amount. And it really doesn’t belong in people’s mouths.
All of you saying amalgam is harmless get out of here with your shitty science.
There are also non BPA fillings, though they are hard to find.
Update on the netipot.
I’m using caprylic acid and GSE and its definitely getting into the ear tilting my head back & popping my ears. They hurt a little now, almost like the stuff in there is dieing. Ringing is slightly lower. I have also been getting a lot of dizziness (i used to get this a lot) and feels like die off also. I don’t think my ear would hurt if it wasn’t doing anything. I’m pretty sure its working.
I’m working on this right now. Tinnitus and dizziness are causing me a few problems.
I start using a netipot yesterday and tilting me head back and sucking in to get the water all the way into my ear (through the nose). It seems to be helping. I read somewhere that it took someone a few weeks. I’m pretty certain its in there. It burns more on my left than right & thats where the tinnitus is loudest. I’m using GSE with water right now.
raster;42109 wrote: Man xday, I’ve been wondering about you and this is a crazy story. You used to post a few times per day…
I second the recommendation on looking into heavy metals. I would proceed very carefully with any kind of chelation protocol because it can really make you feel awful, especially if done incorrectly. You need to get yourself strong before you do it as well or it could basically put you back to square one.
I hope any of the advice I gave you didn’t harm you and I always suggest going to a doctor for treatment and diagnosis. Unfortunately, not everyone can afford to do this.
You likely have multiple inter-related problems that need to be peeled back like layers to an onion. This requires a better plan than what we can supply here on the forum, money, time, and persistence and patience.
The antibiotics really make a bad imbalance within the body in terms of bacteria, parasites, yeast, etc. I would focus on rebuilding this gut flora long term at a bare minimum.
I could sort of see you going downhill unfortunately, I could see that you were worrying way too much and spending a lot of time worrying. This isn’t good as you can see…
Getting proper nutrition is very important and keep in mind that everything you eat will feed the candida if you like it or not. Its all about feeding it things that it can thrive on less than other items.
I will write more in time.
Yeah. Chelation can put you back to square one, and it takes a little while to see progress. I’m about 3 weeks in and already feeling slightly better.
Start VERY low dose (6.25 or 12 mg on cutlers protocol) until you know what you can handle.April 27, 2013 at 3:50 am in reply to: Raster's late in your treatment liver cleanse (updated with links) #103628
I was actually just looking for something like this. Thanks
Shit you’ve been through a lot.
Look into heavy metals. If you have any amalgam fillings get them out. I’ve heard from several people that they could not recover from candida without chelating them out first. Vaccines in the 90’s also contained thimosermal.
I know I had a fairly high TSH when I crashed in november. Now it’s normal. But I would say that theres a possibility that your thyroid will recover on its own after you get through all this shit.
First get your metal fillings out if you have any. Then get some DMPS or ALA. I really don’t recommend DMSA when dealing with bad yeast unless you have to.April 26, 2013 at 4:49 am in reply to: Heavy Metal detox symptoms – fibromyalgia? tinnitus? RLS??? #103581
raster;42062 wrote: I wouldn’t do chelation unless you have thoroughly researched it and can be monitored by a health professional that has experience with chelation. If you browse the mercury chelation yahoo group (I likely have name incorrect) you will see many stories of people struggling while chelating.
Try to find one bad story from Cutler Chelation that went wrong while following protocol. There aren’t any.
The bad stuff happens when you stop taking night doses or take 1 DMSA pill every few days. Most of the stories you see are from IV DMPS. Which of course is going to cause all kinds of problems lol.
You have a really low dose, taken according to halflife. Its very safe. Its when you start screwing with IV and inconsistant doses you get hurt. Whenever you take a chelator you mobilize an amount directly proportional to how much chelator you take. Only a small amount actually comes out though. So taking a giant dose (IV for example) would move a TON of mercury around, while only removing a very small portion of that.
Andy has hard data in his book. Take a look at it if you want.
I’m an engineering student and it all makes sense to me, hence why I’m so for it.April 25, 2013 at 8:32 pm in reply to: Heavy Metal detox symptoms – fibromyalgia? tinnitus? RLS??? #103553
DMPS, DMSA, and ALA (The best). They all have 2 thiol bonds to catch metals instead of just one. Ideally we would have something better, but this is all that currently exists.
Andy Cutler’s method is the only one I have seen with real proof. The others are guesses in the dark it seems like.
If you have some money to spend get a hold of some DMPS. You have to have a perscription to get it though. Otherwise order DMSA from vitamin research products (its like 17 bucks a bottle with a coupon code).
I would say try some ALA, but it can move more into the brain, so you have to watch out. It is one of the only ways to get it out of the brain though.
I currently do 12.5 MG ala every 2-3 hours for 4-5 days then take a day or two off just to catch up on sleep. On round 5ish. In his book he showed you can take massive doses of chelators and it barely helps clearence.
Try taking 5 mg every 2-3 hours or so (Do 4 hours at night) of ALA. Or the safer route is to take DMPS or DMSA (DMPS every 8 and DMSA every 4) to clear the blood mercury first.
I have had tinnitus for a while from the candida. I’m finally winning but its great at pissing me off lol.April 25, 2013 at 4:06 pm in reply to: Heavy Metal detox symptoms – fibromyalgia? tinnitus? RLS??? #103512
I doubt your really removing anything if at all. NAC has one thiol bond and i imagine moves metals around a lot.
I do get those symptoms when using real chelators though. Fibro is common, so is exhaustion and tinnitus happens at higher doses.
Oh GOOD GOLLY! If I would have read this, I wouldn’t have joined this forum. SERIOUSLY??? 6 MONTHS? That’s NOT CURED. I can’t believe you are the blind leading the blind Mr. “Expert”. You’ve got a LOT of nerve leading people around with this so called cure diet when you’ve only got 6 (now 7) months under your belt. You are supposed to be symptom FREE for 18 months to 2 years before even eating the foods you brag about in this thread. Honestly? How can you possibly act all high and mighty about your miracle diet when you’re just a Candida baby. People are trusting you with their LIVES here. You have NO business guiding them with only what is equal to a 6th grade diploma. YOU HAVE JUST BEGUN!
Here I am, 46 years old, fighting Candida for 10 years and I bought into it thinking there were hundreds of people symptom free and that YOU were a real expert on Candida.
You’re NOT. Stop acting like you are. I’m righteously angry about this for good reason.
Stop fooling yourself and others into thinking you are some expert when all you are is a guinea pig on this pathetic forum.
I knew I was falling in love with her for some reason. Are there birds singing in here? … I hear birds …
His protocol is on par with all of the other ones out there. Antifungals, diet, and probiotics.
All of the protocols are similar in that they focus on killing the candida and restoring probiotics. There are tons of ways to do it though.
No Idea, but I take Betaine HCl with my meals. Its pretty cheap. usually 3-5 pills works. Along w/ digestive enzymes.