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    First off, I haven’t been on this forum in the long time, the title caught my eye so I wanted to read. Also many, many props to Raster for still being on these forums and being so helpful – he was always so helpful to me.

    Anyways, I have asked this question myself (an RN) many times with doctors (MDs) and medical nutritionists (different than just nutritionists) who treat candida.

    It really has to do with what is taught in medical school (or, in this case, what is not taught in medical school). How much training do MDs receive with regard to nutrition? One course? How much training do doctors receive for treating things such as infections with something non-pharmacological (ex, oil of oregano)? The whole training system often “breeds” individuals that do not think very critically for themselves and yes become dependent upon pharmacological approaches, protocols of institutions, and westernized medical philosophies. This stuff becomes so ingrained in them that when what their patient tells them something that doesn’t match up with what they have been taught they blame the patient.

    I mean it is obvious that western medicine can be helpful for acute situations (strokes, heart attacks) and inherited diseases. But is down right AWEFUL when it comes to treating syndromes (MS, candida), chronic illness (depression, IBD), chronic pain, etc,.

    There is hope, however that they are starting to “Get it”, we are seeing doctors (such as gastroenterologists) prescribe candida “type” diets … such as FODMAPs, or advise patients to go “gluten-free” (gluten being such a common component in starches that surely feed candida and other organisms in our biodome).

    Lastly, I feel for your pain — really anyone here — and hope you continue searching for the best answers and treatments for whatever gets in the way of you not feeling your very best.

    in reply to: Ibuprofen reverts resistance to azoles #108342

    goingnatural
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    In my opinion, this is a dangerous recommendation.

    In the hospital we see patients on NSAIDS who develop very serious allergies to them resulting in significant edema, or renal damage, or exacerbation of underlying cardiovascular disease (a second MI), or GI bleeds, and they alter immunity .

    in reply to: Candida biofilm treatment plan #107561

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    FYI: This is a double post. Now that that is over…

    Are you working with a doctor with all this? I know you may have had a bad experience with some but from reading one of your other posts and hearing about the drug use and antibiotics I am really uncomfortable advising someone over the internet what I/we think.

    The best thing I suggest is asking for suggestions on doctors who work over the internet/by phone.

    in reply to: support needed #107560

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    tanyanurse;46058 wrote: What is a good B vit I can get on iherb?

    And what about L-glutamine on iherb? I cannot tolerate licorice

    Can you order from Amazon.com? They generally carry more professional grade (less filler stuff) items. L-Glutamine by PURE is great.

    But, if you cannot order from there, you could try Jarrows powdered. Try 3 grams 3x daily. On an empty stomach.

    in reply to: support needed #107509

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    msmofish;46029 wrote: NurseTanya
    You are on the road to recovery & it takes time. Do know that it gets better !

    Going natural
    What do you mean by this:
    “Make sure you purchase activated versions.”
    You were referring to B vitamin purchases but I’ve never heard of activated versions

    I eat often & fish a few times a month – I may need some B’s as I was a strict vegetarian for years. My nails have been incredibly weak & peeling of late. Thinking B will help
    thanks
    Mo

    Good question Mo, vegetarian’s absolutely have trouble getting their b’s!

    Most of us on here have GI dysfunction. So, we are going to have some problems breaking down/synthesizing/utilizing b-vitamins. Hence the need for supplementation. Activated versions of B-vitamins don’t need to be broken down by enzymes (25% of us do not, via genetics, have this ability). Active b12 is methylcobalamin, active b6 is Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate, active folate is Methylfolate.

    in reply to: support needed #107507

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    tanyanurse;46026 wrote: I need to increase my water. I keep needing reminder of that.

    What are EFA’s?

    what is the l-glutamine for?

    So start with B12 first?

    EFA’s = Essential Fatty Acids = Fish oil. I think you were already taking these?

    L- Glutamine = Helps heal leaky gut (which I’m pretty convinced you have). It also is a factor in detoxification (phase 2). I suggest about 3 grams, 3x daily on empty stomach. I use a product called Glutagenics which has L-Glutamine and Aloe Vera along with Licorice.

    Yes, start with b12. Let us know how it goes.

    in reply to: support needed #107495

    goingnatural
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    Tanya, remember this, it isn’t just die off from candida that you are experiencing. This diet is the “key”, along with supplements and vitamins, to “pandora’s box”. Opening this “box” has released areas within your body that stored all sorts of poisons: parasites, bacteria, pesticides, heavy metals, etc, etc,. The sicker you feel, the more telling it is of how many poisons have been stored deep within your tissues.

    I know it is tough. Oh how I know. It was just a matter of time before all this un-health would have developed into something else (like Cancer).

    Press on. Keep your head up. Make sure you daily support your body with: sauna’s, water, tea’s, sleep, multivitamins, EFA’s, b-vitamins, probiotics, quality foods, detox powders, high doses of vitamin c, high(ish) doses of l-glutamine, molybdenum, (insert what else you find useful here), support from others, and self-love.

    This does get better in time.

    P.S. How will you know to tweak the dosage of B-Vitamins? Well, first off remember B-Vitamins crucial part of detoxification (phase 1) so, if you start feeling worse than you KNOW what’s causing this. But, likely after the initial feeling of unwell, they will only help with your symptoms (esp with brain fog, fatigue, and aches). So… with b12 start out with 200mcg (about that) work your way up to 1-2 grams daily. If after a week or so you feel just fine, then incorporate a b-complex in addition to the b12. Make sure you purchase activated versions.

    in reply to: support needed #107473

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    tanyanurse;45992 wrote:

    This is one of my worst days. I am so weak and have huge amounts of brain ofg. I am just faking it until I make it. I have been on the strict diet for 4 weeks. I am now at 6 tsp/day of EVCC, 1 capsule of the SF722, 2 garlic oil capsule, water kefire and a probiotic as well as molybedendum three times per day and candidate by native remedies.

    My nine year old said “why do you never feel good?” 🙁

    I need some energy.

    I empathize with your story. Must be tough being a mom and hearing that. You can remind yourself that you are doing this so you CAN feel good. Unfortunately healing takes time, perserverance, and sacrifice. Short term pain (relatively) for long term gain. That’s at least how I see it.

    I wonder if your nutritional needs are being met? Taking a good multivitamin? (I like MultiThera1) Taking a good b12 for energy and to help with brain fog? (I like SeekingHealth’s b12) Taking a good b-complex? (Pure’s B-Complex Plus).

    I am taking a good multi by thorne. I am not taking extra b vitamins though. I juice EVERY morning. Kale, romain, lemon, ginger, cucke, zuchinni. My red meat concumption is zero so mabe some ectra b vits may help.

    Good, thorne is great. Yes, try some b’s, even just b12, but you may need to tweek the dosage.

    Also, glad to hear you are so consistent with the juicing. This will get better, keep going!

    in reply to: support needed #107471

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    tanyanurse;45989 wrote: This is one of my worst days. I am so weak and have huge amounts of brain ofg. I am just faking it until I make it. I have been on the strict diet for 4 weeks. I am now at 6 tsp/day of EVCC, 1 capsule of the SF722, 2 garlic oil capsule, water kefire and a probiotic as well as molybedendum three times per day and candidate by native remedies.

    My nine year old said “why do you never feel good?” 🙁

    I need some energy.

    I empathize with your story. Must be tough being a mom and hearing that. You can remind yourself that you are doing this so you CAN feel good. Unfortunately healing takes time, perserverance, and sacrifice. Short term pain (relatively) for long term gain. That’s at least how I see it.

    I wonder if your nutritional needs are being met? Taking a good multivitamin? (I like MultiThera1) Taking a good b12 for energy and to help with brain fog? (I like SeekingHealth’s b12) Taking a good b-complex? (Pure’s B-Complex Plus).

    in reply to: Body circulation question, has anybody noticed this? #107393

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    I empathize that it hasn’t helped you and I do hope for the best for your continued healing.

    But, here’s the thing, I have had chronic shooting pains/joint aches from my feet to my shoulders and treating the candida did nothing for this. Additionally, I have had long standing circulation issues like you mentioned. The only thing that resolved this were B-vitamins. Now, remember not all b-vitamins are created equal. Up to 25% of people need active forms of b-12, and enough b complex to make a difference. I highly doubt I am the only one on these forums who have benefited from this and that is why I am emphasizing its importance.

    WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS & DEFICIENCY SYMPTOMS OF B12 & FOLIC ACID?
    Depression
    Mental lethargy
    Withdrawal
    Irritability
    Poor memory
    Confusion
    Dementia
    Psychosis-paranoia
    Insomnia
    Digestive disturbances
    Diarrhea
    Weakness
    Numbness
    Stiffness/spasticity
    Headaches
    Restless legs
    Burning feet
    Increased sensitivity to pain
    Sore tongue
    Lesions at corners of mouth
    Anemia (megaloblastic)
    Shortness of breath
    Low white blood cell count
    Lowered resistance to infection, decreased antibody formation
    Graying hair
    Toxemia of pregnancy
    Premature births
    Increased risk of certain birth defects
    Sprue
    Weight loss
    Anorexia (appetite loss)

    in reply to: Body circulation question, has anybody noticed this? #107388

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    NiuBlau;45907 wrote: Yes, I have cold feet too.

    So far nothing changed and I do the diet since March.

    I also have numbness and pain in my feet.

    Does anybody else have that?

    b-vitamins! b-vitamins! b-vitamins! Try them. These are all very common symptoms of a deficiency/malabsorption issue.

    I like:
    B-Complex Plus 2-3 caps daily (Made by PURE)
    ACTIVE (Methylcobalamin) B12 500-1000mcg daily

    in reply to: Does work out sweat work the same as hot baths? #107371

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    SingerCoach;45890 wrote: I have already read this document where it is noted that the benefit of infrared sauna use:

    “can therefore, play a pivotal role in both weight control and cardiovascular
    conditioning. It is valuable for those who don’t exercise and those who can’t exercise and want an
    effective weight control and fitness maintenance program, and the benefits regular exercise contribute to
    such a program.”

    Since I already work out, this benefit, according to this document, doesn’t apply to me.

    There were no citations or links to research in this document.

    Can anyone provide me with citations or links to research as to why infrared sauna use is better than sweating from exercise (my original question).

    Thanks!

    LOL. It is apples and oranges. They aren’t the same thing. Sustained heat versus, exercise.

    Check out confirmation bias: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

    And more research here:

    1. Pain and stiffness decreased significantly in patients with rheumatoid arthritis and ankylosing spondylitis http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10067-008-0977-y
    2. Benefits of far infrared for patients with chronic fatigue syndrome:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15992574
    3. Sauna therapy improves cardiac function
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11869837

    in reply to: Does work out sweat work the same as hot baths? #107369

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    SingerCoach;45883 wrote: No, I do not have access to saunas. Why isn’t sweating during a work out the same as a sauna or hot bath?

    I sometimes chuckle when someone is convinced in their head about something without evidence, then wants evidence to refute their non-evidenced based thinking.

    Read this for research on far infrared:

    http://206.174.208.50/~saunac/wp-content/uploads/dr_aaron1.pdf


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    rawlings888;45869 wrote: So, after two years of solid recovery, and a strict anti-–Candida diet, I’ve finally found what I believe to be the root my illness: Leaky gut.

    Probiotic supplements have never worked too well for me, and I was very excited to discover many people claiming that raw sauerkraut had given them incredible health and intestinal benefits. So I ordered some rejuvenative brand sauerkraut. But, when I’ve tried to introduce it, even a teaspoon at a time, I feel like my intestines surge with pain And heat.

    This doesn’t feel like a die off reaction. I worry that the sauerkraut is too intense for my gut. But I really want to start building up the gut flora, as I feel like that is what my body really wants and needs.

    But, my intestines are so sensitive, to food in general, that I could be wrong about the sauerkraut. It could be something else that was setting them off, and sauerkraut just got caught up in the midst of it. Or perhaps I was going too quickly. If there were an easy way to test it, I would. But it often takes several days for my intestines to settle back down to normal, and usually something else sets them off before they can even do that. So this vicious cycle makes testing Foods very difficult.

    What do you think? Should I be more persistent with the sauerkraut, as a primary means of replenishing the friendly bacteria? Or is this kind of food just too overpowering for someone with severe leaky gut?

    As always, thanks so much for your time.
    Rawlings

    Many people react to the YEAST that is in fermented products and either don’t realize it or think it is die off.

    in reply to: Does work out sweat work the same as hot baths? #107359

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    No it is not.

    You are in LA and you don’t have access to sauna’s? I’m sure there is a good far infrared out there that you might be okay with.

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