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- September 21, 2014 at 2:57 pm in reply to: How do you know when you are done with the anti-fungals? #121285
From this website:
“When Should You Take Antifungals?
You can start your antifungals soon after you begin your strict anti-Candida diet. As with probiotics, there are some good reasons to wait until you have finished the cleanse before you start your course of antifungals. If you take them while you are cleansing, they are liable to quickly be expelled from your system with all the pathogens, bacteria and other matter that are washed through with the cleanse. And you don’t want to put too much stress on your body by prompting Candida Die-Off while you should be focusing on the cleansing process.
You will be introducing a probiotic around the same time, soon after you have finished the cleanse. These are both powerful elements of the Candida treatment plan, so we would recommend leaving a week or two between starting each of these. The reason is that both probiotics and antifungals are liable to cause Candida Die-Off, so to start courses of both at the same time could potentially make for a very challenging start to your treatment. If you leave a couple of weeks between them, you will be less likely to experience a severe Die-Off and more likely to finish the diet!
Why you need to choose a good antifungal
Antifungals play an important part in the Candida Diet by destroying the cells of the Candida Albicans yeast. They work with probiotics to first kill the Candida overgrowth, then repopulate your gut with healthy bacteria. Some antifungals (e.g. caprylic acid) can also help to restore your stomach to its correct acidity and restrain the Candida yeast even further.
Candida can adapt to some antifungals over time, so many dieters rotate their supplements. Some good options are caprylic acid, garlic, grapefruit seed extract (GSE) and oil of oregano. Take a look at our choosing an antifungal page for more information. Be aware that rotating your antifungals too frequently can actually lead to the Candida strain building resistance to particular products. We recommend taking two or three antifungals at the same time to prevent this happening, but you should increase your dosage slowly to avoid a severe Die-Off reaction.
Can you take probiotics and antifungals at the same time?
There is no good reason why you shouldn’t take probiotics and antifungals at the same time. Yes, its true that some antifungals have antibiotic properties, so they might kill a few of the beneficial bacteria that you are using to repopulate your stomach. However, if you think about it this is actually a reason to keep taking probiotics. If the antifungals are potentially reducing your healthy gut flora even further, reintroducing ‘good’ bacteria is exactly what your digestive system needs. This is very much the same argument as why you should take probiotics during a course of antibiotics.
As mentioned above, its important that you leave at least 1-2 weeks between starting your probiotics and antifungals. This is to avoid a severe Die-Off reaction, and it will help you to complete the diet with less discomfort. To get the most benefit from both supplements, you should also try to take them at least 2 hours apart during the day.
Will you always need to take antifungals?
You should finish your antifungals after you have completed the Candida diet and you feel that you have beaten your Candida overgrowth. On the other hand, there are very good reasons for continuing the probiotics indefinitely to maintain your balance of gut flora and the acidity in your digestive tract. Remember also that the yeast can adapt to many antifungals, so you may find that they lose their effectiveness over time anyway.
When you end your course of antifungals, we would recommend coming off the treatment slowly and monitoring your health carefully. If you feel that you are regressing and your Candida overgrowth is starting to resume, return to your original dosage until you feel comfortable again. If you cut the dosage and you feel fine, then feel free to keep reducing your intake of antifungals until you have quit the supplements altogether.
For lots more information on how to choose the right antifungal, take a look at my Ultimate Candida Diet treatment program.”
– There is a LOT of useful information on this website outside of this forum. This forum can be a bit dodgy so I’d make use of the solid info you can get around the site, then learn from the forum with a pinch of salt 🙂
Danny33;59775 wrote: For me, chapped lips have been a result of chronic exposure to chemical fragrance (e.g. Perfume). This is an abnormal and inflammatory immune response to a specific environmental exposure. My suppressive immunity (T-suppressor cells produced by gut flora) have been wiped out since my urologist prescribed me 90 days of broad-spectrum anti-biotics in 2008.
1. Temporarily remove the offending allergen
2. Fix your dysbiosis and restore Treg production in the intestines
P.S – Orange juice and honey don’t fix dysbiosis, replace missing species of flora, or remove yeast overgrowth.
Read the literature from the doctors who have successfully treated this syndrome for decades. There is so much bad information on this forum.
I agree, what some people say on here as ‘You should do this’ not even as a suggestion, like taking people’s lives into their own hands, kinda freaks me out… no one really knows much about candida, there are no real ‘experts’ yet it seems… but there are people out there who have cured themselves, and cured hundreds of other people so it would be best to listen to those people only really. Most doctors don’t seem to have a good grasp, same with naturopaths, it’s weird. I trust Lisa Richards who started this site, so I roll with her content – and it’s working for me. I trust the CONTENT of this website, but not this forum, no way. Most people on here haven’t even read the content on this site, or they wouldn’t be suggesting what they are.
A strict cleanse, changing your diet to an anti candida diet, then helping out the whole process with good quality probiotics, antifungals, and supplements for the die-off. (As well as other things to look after yourself such as epsom salt baths to draw out toxins and nice herbal teas to calm your nerves). This is what I have been doing and my treatment is going well. I’m skimming here but thats the basics of the process it seems. I have been on the Ultimate Candida Diet (by the woman who started this website) and am just over halfway through.
I found that going by a strict plan (as supplied by Lisa) was best for me so I had rules and didn’t have to stab around in the dark for a good basis and solid understanding of what was wrong and what was going on in my body. A plan that supplies recipes and shopping lists for food you can eat, the best supplements and probios to take etc is really beneficial, it made my life a whole lot easier and this whole debarcle much easier to handle. After you’ve been strict, then you can start testing the waters, that’s what I’m up to anyway, and I’m learning what I can and can’t have by my bodies reactions (which have been lessening overall).
The first couple of weeks were hard to get used to, but now I have adjusted and it’s all making sense – I am also learning to listen to my body as we are all different, but a pre-planned diet can be a great way to get a good solid base to go from.September 19, 2014 at 10:26 am in reply to: Yogurt sugar worries – mucus/warm face after eating. #121242
raster;59713 wrote: 5 servings per day is too much and I would reduce to one serving per day. Even at one serving per day it is a controversial food item.
Just another question – how come yogurt is controversial? Because of the sugar?
Some people here seem to be eating fruit, there is more sugar in an apple or orange, or any juice in comparison to yogurt for the same amount of grams (low sugar organic yogurt) – and that’s straight fructose! The yogurt sugar supposedly gets a little absorbed in the fermentation… any ideas? Just searching for some logic/method to the madness 🙂
I found a fix for the skin either side of my nose and on my chin by using diluted tea tree oil every night on with a cotton swab.
Nothing else, I read somewhere here on this forum that oil on your skin feeds the fungus (which is on your face causing the spot and rash and over production of skin cells). So using coconut oil was not for me – that’s where I went wrong. As coconut oil is an antifungal, however, only your face with this particular fungus issue, its actually feed them. You want to dry it out and kill them off, which is what tea tree does best – I have very sensitive skin and its ok for me (a few drops of teatree in a teaspoon of water) but some people can have a bad reaction to tea tree, its pretty strong so be careful.
Only tea tree oil, cotton swab, every night. Would wake up with a lot of flaking as it came off. Resist the urge to moisturise, no matter how bad it seems.
In the morning I use diluted Apple cider vingear (with the mother, good stuff – diluted 50/50 with water) just to keep killing the fungus but not making my face really flakey all day cos no one wants to walk around like that…then I would just wash my face with warm/hot water on a facecloth and be done with it. You kind of just have to let the flaking happen for a few days.
About 3 days later, no rash, a bit of flaking but so much better! Not using ANYTHING to moisturise. What I am doing however is oil cleansing every night. This sounds weird but using oil to clean your face lifts out oils. I use 100% pure argan oil, rub it on my face, leave it for a minute or two, then use a super hot face cloth and steam my face, just holding it on, then do the steam with fresh hot water 2 more times to get all the argan oil off. I do this to get rid of my excess oil production, and to provide a bit of moisture back to my skin while it balances itself out as I heal. Its been said that hot water doesn’t agree with face fungal issues but its worked fine with me, been very helpful for lifting the oil with the Argan that the fungus feeds on. Not everyone has to do this every night but I do at the moment as my oil production was quite out of control.
So, nearly fixed my face, and removed all my blackheads, and no more pimples reappearing, my skin has never been this good overall (along with my diet change to prevent it from returning!)
I also swabbed with tea tree on the spots on my stomach, and they are nearly gone too, no sign of returning either which means my diet must be helping also – will update this if anything changes on that front. For athletes foot I use a superhot footbath with a few tablespoons of ACV in it for about 10mins, its super hot but you just grin and bear it, that’s working too and no sign of reappearing so far.
Totally normal to go up and down too, I would have good days and think oh its over! but then the next day feel the die-off terribly. I have stabilised now and almost all my symptoms have cleared (and die-off reactions) after 4-5 weeks. I started with a cleanse, but its not absolutely necessary, its just the prepare your colon to reset it to get the most out of the veges you are about to load on in there. Fruit is not recommended by Lisa I thought? Where did you get that info from?
lolcandida;59744 wrote: This results from a lack of adequate carbohydrate in the diet. With a candida overgrowth higher amounts of carbohydrate are required by the body. Eat lots of raw honey, orange juice, or water based non starchy fruits and make them a large % of your diet. This approach will not only cure chapped lips within days, but will slaughter candida in just a few weeks.
Carbs produce sugar in the body – its recommended to be careful with carbs, any only eat whole grains/complex carbs. Or of course the carbs that are in the high fibre veges you would be eating. Honey, juice and fruit in general or anything with sugar is not recommended usually… but I’m interested to know why you are plugging these things that are discouraged by this websites content.September 19, 2014 at 4:45 am in reply to: Concerned about people posting they have been on the diet for 1 year + #121233
lolcandida;59745 wrote: Diet alone can beat candida, the problem is all the candida diets are scams that don’t beat candida. The cure for candida is a high carb diet comprised of easily digestible water based fruits, raw honey, or fruit juices like orange juice. It is best to avoid the starch based sources of carbohydrates as they digest too slowly and are a poor choice when battling candida. White rice and white potato can be an exception here, but your focus should be on fruits or raw honey. When a high(70+%) carb diet is utilized candida will be under control within a week and eliminated in the time it takes to do one of the stupid cleanses or fasts that is advertised to beat candida.
That is pretty much the complete opposite of everything I’ve been up to and everything posted on this website 🙂 I am having success with what I have gleaned from this site, and the ultimate diet. Seems like everyone’s an expert! You really need to be careful what you are telling people as you can really affect people’s lives here. I don’t know your background, but I would more inclined to trust someone who has been through a serious candida infestation themselves, cured themselves, and helped others with testimonials to prove.September 18, 2014 at 6:17 am in reply to: Yogurt sugar worries – mucus/warm face after eating. #121213
Yeah I can understand that. I have read pretty much everything on the site, and downloaded the ultimate diet (but yeah you have to pay for it), her experience was useful to me as of course she has been through it, and spoken to hundreds of people about their symptoms, reactions, diets etc and has developed that from their experiences. Knowledge is power and the more you can read from people who have been through it and have cured themselves (and others!) the better really.
I trust what she says about a lot of things after reading the testimonials, really good results. So might be worth a good shot. It’s working for me anyway – and since my first post here, I have still been eating yogurt (3 servings a day) and have had no reaction, so I think it was die off after all. I have been on a work trip so yogurt has been super useful in keeping me afloat when I can’t get food easily.
Of course everyone is different, but if you start from a good stable base of understanding from others experience, you really set yourself up for an effective treatment, why re-invent the wheel right?
heaps of resources and useful info out there, just have to weigh them and and compare and listen to your body. Good luck with your treatments and thanks heaps for your input. I’ll let you know how I go.September 17, 2014 at 8:44 am in reply to: Yogurt sugar worries – mucus/warm face after eating. #121203
So just wondering – Raster and theChosenOne – do you disagree with a lot of what Lisa Richards says about Candida? Or just some parts? I’m interested to know what you think so I can be a better judge (to recap, she’s the creator of this site, and has developed the diets many people have successfully treated their conditions on).September 16, 2014 at 8:33 pm in reply to: Yogurt sugar worries – mucus/warm face after eating. #121194
Thanks for your replies, will drop it for a week and see how I go. The warm face thing has stopped but I still get a bit mucusy.September 16, 2014 at 3:21 am in reply to: Yogurt sugar worries – mucus/warm face after eating. #121186
Ok sure, Thanks for your replies.
Have you read what Lisa Richards (creator of this website) has said about yogurt?
My question really isn’t about dairy, as I only eat yogurt no other dairy – it’s about the sugar and how it acts in yogurt – as it is not refined and is lactose based (I think?) that it is counteracted by fermentation/more useful that a hinderence.
Here is a link : http://www.thecandidadiet.com/why-does-my-yogurt-contain-sugar.htm
If no one really knows anything about this, don’t worry about it – just wondering if anyone had had the kind of reaction I described, or if they know anything about sugar in yogurt (plain, organic, with good bac a,b and c).
Thanks again.September 16, 2014 at 3:12 am in reply to: Concerned about people posting they have been on the diet for 1 year + #121185
Of course it is different for everyone, and I didn’t mean to advertise 🙂 Just is the diet I am on and its making a huge difference, quickly – but yes as you say, everyone is different and candida appears to be super complicated!
Back to the advertising, the ultimate diet is written by Lisa Richards who started up this website. So I wouldn’t exactly say I am advertising by mentioning a diet that you are all reading about if you read any content on this site, which I’m sure you are/have.
I think the 8 weeks is to feel a difference, then ongoing for as long as you need seems to be the case so we are both on the right track here probably.
Yep it seems that Candida needs to be cured with supplements, probios and antifungals – along with a strict diet change for a few months + depending on how severe the infestation.
The Ultimate Candida Diet recommends no dairy except for organic yogurt with good bacteria (A,B and C), butter, ghee or kefir. Anything else, especially cheese was a no-no from what I have read.
Also any starchy vegetables such as potatoes were to be avoided.September 15, 2014 at 8:31 am in reply to: Is that much diferent eating fruit or blending it? Raster please!! #121157
Fruit is generally not recommended in any form if you are on a candida diet/have candida as the sugars feed the candida…