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Interesting to see this thread. I started cows milk kefir 3 days ago and have been:
– very tired
– hot and cold
– feeling quite down
– but of muscle / joint pain
I was taking a full mug per day. I will probably cut down to a couple of mouthfuls and then build it up.
I don’t know if I really believe this stuff about immune shots being required.
I do accept it’s an immune problem. But I think what has happened is we’ve all being through excess stress at some points (whether it was mental / viral or antibiotics etc). And while the immune system has been weakened we have suffered and overgrowth of yeast or bacteria. If our immune system had completely stopped dealing with yeast and bacteria I suspect we would be dead already.
I personally think what you have to do is change your diet (according to the protocol here) and change your mindset / mental attitude to completely remove physical and mental stress from your life. I think that when you do that the body will do what it’s designed to do and will heal itself.
I personally would put more focus and faith and energy into the bodies ability to heal than searching endlessly for a ‘magic bullet’ injection or other miracle cure.
No offense meant to anyone, that’s just my philosophy I wanted to share as I think having faith and not having any anxiety about searching for a special cure is very important to the healing process.
Anyone tried this – http://www.stopyeast.com/candida-antigen-blood-panel.html
Also, does anyone know of a good list of potential blood tests to take (if deciding to invest?)
I’d read somewhere the stool tests in general were not accurate. Does anyone have any recommendation on blood tests?
I have been thinking of investing in a few tests just really to rule other things out and to check a few of the things mentioned here.
I hadn’t heard of naturopath before I came here, I don’t think they are popular in the UK? Is anyone UK based and has a recommendation where to go for tests / help?
Able – thanks for this, meat is one of my problems still, I’ve got it down to organic at least, but still with chicken or fish every day and beef 1/2 per week, but I’m going to work on reducing that 🙂
I’m on week 5 now and I think I’m starting to get over due off, it was very bad for me so I had to stop and start the antifungals a couple of times.. I’m only using coconut oil and pau d’arco now, but will rotate the pau / introduce another.
Alex, thanks for sharing your results. I had a similar test about 4 months ago and mine showed a pattern consistent with high cortisol levels much like yours. I was just curious, do you have any anxiety problems?
Hey, no problem, I didn’t originally have anxiety problems. But then 1.5 years ago I had a bad virus, and a lot of stress from some life stuff, that’s when I got really sick, then came the muscle pain, inability to sleep (remember being awake 3 days in a row at one point), during that time I did have anxiety and panic in a major way, but I think it was brought on by illness as opposed to the other way around, of course, then that makes it difficult to recover I think.
I originally found meditation, yoga and I know it’s silly but watching motivational movies like ‘the secret’ to be great in getting me away from anxiety and back to positive mindset.
I’m trying this soup this weekend ! Photos will be incoming 🙂
I’m also off to the book shop to try and find a copy of nourishing traditions, looks really good book 🙂
Get an adrenal stress index, I’ve done one already and it was only about £65 here in the UK, take saliva samples throughout the day and then send to a lab.
I don’t mind sharing my one (with full name / address removed):
This was taken on a Sunday, pretty normal day off, did some shopping, had a massage etc. What it shows in my case is that my adrenals are fine, they are able to cope and are producing if anything slightly high coritsol levels.
Actually my assessment was ‘adaptive response’ which says they are having to work harder than they are which would indicate I have some issues which could be chronic infection or mental…
so it’s kind of a confirmation that I may have bacteria / yeast / fungus issue…
Sorry to hear about this, my contract is up next Friday too, so I’ll be searching for a new one. I don’t know what you do, but have you considered contracting / temporary work as a stop gap.
As the others said, would be a good idea to prioritise your spending, perhaps you can get by without some things, focusing on the essentials?
Either way, wish you luck and hope you get sorted out soon !
I would have thought L Glutamine was beneficial.
The cells of the intestine utilise L Glutamine so I think it leads to better intestinel health. As I understand it, it’s not an essential amino acid, but if your body is in a catabolic state (fighting infection / healing etc) then it becomes essential to the process.
It comes from meat and veg mainly.. including such as spinach, so should be ok to supplement??
I’m not an expert though.
Thanks all.. I’ve managed to get my water up to 56% so far this week just through forcing myself to drink more.. I’m going to look into electrolyte.. I’m definitely going to stop the whey having read up on it and got some comments on another post, have got hemp coming in the post..
My mid week update is that apart from the twitches, I’ve get really achey legs, struggling to walk yesterday and today to / from work.
I’m actually seeing that as a positive as near the onset of my fatigue not being able to walk was a major symptom for a few weeks, so perhaps my immune system is starting to tackle original problems now that it’s getting some strength from the diet !
fixme;34343 wrote: How does it taste compared to reg coconut bread?
I haven’t tried coconut only yet, I wanted the extra benefits of oat bran and i like a heavy bread 🙂
yeah – go ahead and add the photo’s…
I’m going to do pictures of other things I try too 🙂
hope4eva77;34310 wrote: damn looks good
Thank you so much.. I’d send you a slice, but I’m sure it wouldn’t make it across the pond 🙂
Being a baking novice I had no idea to put things in gradually and check the thickness, I ended up having to put two more eggs it was so thick.. !
I do need to shop around for cheaper eggs as supermarket prices make this quite pricey!