- June 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm #107035
It’s become a buzzword in naturopathy, chiropractors, homeopathic doctors, etc. Do I believe I have Candida? I’m not sure, but from two books I read and the symptoms I have it makes sense. Here is how I believe I got this illness:
I would go out on weekends for years binge drinking beer and not sleeping great. I would eat lots of crap on the weekend, but for the most part I ate healthy through-out the week–eating healthy meaning something completely different then what I considered it then. I would eat organic foods thinking I was being healthy when eating healthy involves much more, gorge on watermelons, eat lots of bread, etc.
During all this time, even today, I’m what many would call “healthy”–I’m not over-weight, I have good muscle definition, I’m slim, strong. e.g. external healthy (which confuses the doctors). So in case you’re wondering what was and is my state of health. I can see somebody presuming all us “Candida” sufferers as being physically unhealthy, far from true. Even “healthy” people get
Here were my symptoms during these times that I wasn’t very conscious of but now know were the pretense for something bigger to come. I had no idea anything of this was connected, nor do I now but I do believe their is a correlation between these–they are not merely co-morbid, happening independently:
- Tired all of the time.
- Craving for sweets (I never was a sweets person mind you).
- Sinus inflammation and sore throats; I thought these were just colds I was getting constantly.
- After going to the bars, I seemed to discover a pattern of getting “colds”
- My asshole would itch and I sometimes would have slight bleeding. What I thought at the time: Wiping to hard.
- From age 17 till now (close your eyes and ears, this is gross) sometimes but not always after ejaculating then going to pee it would burn.
- Constant mucus in the back of my throat
- Anxiety and panic attacks my entire life, but having many years were they didn’t exist and I was perfectly fine
- A pleuritic type feeling in my left lung
So I had those symptoms but they were tolerable and they didn’t bother me much. I could have weeks or months or even sometimes years feeling fine and not having any problems. All was management and I felt “alive” still and not poisoned or ill.
Crisis – Candida (if that’s what it is) unleashes
For the last 4 years I’ve had three very close friends die, I had unstable relational issues, incredibly stressful job, legal issues, etc. In May 2012 my mom died to top it off and this was an extreme blow to me all the while maintaining my family, paying mortgage, etc. I was also working out constantly. I would workout all the time, especially intensely.
I started getting stomach pain–GERD like feeling–so I started eating Tums like they were candy, and drinking pepto bismol by the bottle each day. I was doing this for 2-3 weeks. I started reading and found that not eating 3-4 hours before bed would solve this. I stopped the tums and pepto bismol and did this and the GERD went away!
I had the sinus issues and soreness in my throat and went to the doctor, she prescribed me a z-pack, an antibiotic. I took this, and it did nothing for my sinuses. I ended up getting a white film all over my tongue and i thought it was odd. I didn’t think much about it.
In January 2013 (a few weeks after the GERD issues) the “Candida” symptoms hit, and hit HARD. Here were the symptoms I was having:
- An electrical like feeling all over my head
- The feeling as though I was sucking on something extremely sour
- Sinuses inflamed and throat burning
- Lymph nodes swollen
- Mouth infections regularly
- Body sore for no apparent reason
- Hands and feet getting VERY cold
- My entire body felt poisoned
- I had muscle twitching everywhere
- I could NOT sleep
- Everywhere in my body felt inflamed
- My vision felt delayed
- I would get very dizzy and would randomly get vertigo
- CONSTANT gas–every day every hour multiple times
- Burping all the time
- Hiccups constantly
- Ears felt full of air
- Developed loud ringing in left ear
- Skin would get red on cheeks
- Poor sleep–tossing and turning constantly at night
- Frequent urination at night even though didn’t drink water before bed
Patterns I Was Noticing
I started noticing the following things:
- When waking up I didn’t feel as bad and after eating I started feeling ill in the afternoon
- When I felt most ill, my muscle twitching was more active
- Eating sugar seemed to exacerbate the problem. Food had a direct influence on how I felt
- Eating certain things was causing IMMENSE gas
- Doctors all thought this was all psycho somatic
- I went to every kind of doctor and they said I was fine even though I recorded a video of my muscle twitching and printed off a health log/diary keeping track of things
- Whatever was going on, was turning into some sort of auto-immune problem
- I had/have cravings for fruit but even it causes symptoms
Trials and Tribulations
I started reading books on digestive wellness and other things of the like. I wanted to bypass the internet blogs, forums, etc., because there was so much pseudoscience it had my head spinning. After reading Digestive Wellness by Elizabeth Lipski and gut and psychology syndrome by Natash Campbell I realized this was a digestive issue causing all of this. I took the questionnaires in Elizabeth’s book and according to her, indefinitely had Candida.
I started taking 80 Billion CFU Ultra Flora pills, ate the GAPS introductory diet, and followed the protocol. There was a marked difference in how I was feeling. The muscle twitching subsided, brain fog lifted 80%, allergies weren’t so intense, and many of the symptoms went away. The “poisoned” feeling, the worse of them all, went away.
To test all of this to make sure it wasn’t bullshit I started eating sugary foods to see what would happen, and I ended up getting sick again. So I finally had some empirical knowledge of this–I had evidence sugar was doing something. To test further, I started eating what my allergist said to not eat and these things didn’t affect me. The allergist said all these symptoms were normal, “everyone has them” and laughed at me and told me to stop being a hypochondriac; the allergist was a waste of money.
So I started feeling better following the protocol but it was expensive and I lost 20 lbs which was making me nervous. I felt better but not healed. I got tired of this and started eating normal again–much more conscious–allowing myself bread, and such. I got sick again. The problem with following the GAPS diet is $$. It cost money and takes lots of time. The probiotics are expensive and questionable.
Here is what I was doing when I was feeling good however, on the GAPS protocol and following some of my own ideas thrown in:
- Taking Ultra Flora 80 CFU (Don’t know if this helped)
- Eating bone broths
- Soups were my main foods
- I chewed up my food very well so that nothing would be left to ferment
- I tried to eat meals that were small as to not cause problems with leaky gut
- Got good rest
- Didn’t drink tons of water at a time, messing up my stomach Ph.
- Was taking colustrum (Don’t know if this helped)
- Took l-glutamine to help heal my gut (don’t know if this helped)
- Drinking only a mouth full of water, not giant gulps at a time. 8 glasses of water doesn’t mean each sitting, down an entire glass of water. I don’t know if this is a good or bad practice, but my intuition says its not good, same with over eating; seems this would cause leaky gut or other problems
When going on the GAPS diet, I get better. When going off, I get sick again. I do not have nearly as horrible of feeling as I did in January 2013. I feel markedly better, but I still feel ill and something is very wrong. According to Natasha Campbell, it can takes many months if not YEARS to heal. This illness was caused over very long periods of time, and it will take equal amounts of time to reverse it. I don’t feel great. I feel exhausted still, and I feel my body is overwhelmed by something.
Since January I stopped the following:
- Drinking alcohol of any kind
- Significantly reduced the amount of processed food I eat to almost zero
- I cannot workout as much as I used to. I get very dizzy when working out
- I had to completely stop hanging out with drinking buddies
- I go to bed as early as I can, but I for the most part I still don’t get optimal sleep. The best I was feeling following Natasha’s protocol I was getting decent sleep and felt food.
- I still eat some things that are not legal foods on the GAPS diet, which I presume contributes to some of my feeling but even strictly on the diet I get symptoms which discourages me
The foods are eat mostly and feel best are:
- Turkey Burgers
- Soups of many kinds I experiment with and put greek yogurt in for probiotics
- Baked chicken (with bones)
- Bone broths
- Raw vegetables
- As much leafy green foods as possible
- Eggs, organic bacon, etc
Fruit seems to cause issues for me. If I eat fruit and take digestive enzymes it seems to help me not have bad reactions.
Skepticism and Key Points
First, I don’t know if I have Candida. In fact, there are so many species of Candida nobody really knows if Candida Alibicans is the culprit, but one this is certain–whatever is going on it is gastrointestinal related. Candida is so poorly researched and my doctors look at me like all the rest, like I’m insane when I talk about it–“ONLY AIDS PATIENTS GET THAT”
Probiotics are iffy. Consumer reports found many to be bullshit. Did you know that the probiotics you buy in the store DO NOT colonize the gut? I found a few that can like S. Boulardii and Coagulans, but the lactobacilli family doesn’t colonize.
Growing and packaging lactocailli is a much easier process and is the only microbials many companies are familiar with. These microbials can withstand a lot more than other types being why these are the big craze. They cannot make nor do they know about the other commensals in your gut. They know the lacobacilli are ok because they exist in our fermented foods however they don’t know about the others enough.
Your stomach has hundreds or thousands of varying kinds of bacteria. How is taking a supplement with just 4-5 strains going build up all the hundreds if not thousands of bacteria that were killed over the years? First off, they market saying “take probiotics to build up your flora in your stomach” when these flora don’t actually colonize your intestines. Your flora was given to you by your mother, and it built up over MANY years from touching things, swallowing things as a kid, etc. Eating vegetables from the garden, etc.
Even Natasha Campbell sells tons of probiotics, “BIO-KULT” brand, the author of the book I mentioned previously. I still believe most of what she says in her GAPS book–It was VERY informative by all means, but I’m a bit cautious about having found she sells tons of probiotics. So understand it’s possible people can have hidden agendas. Here is a better example: Look up all the Candida gurus on the internet, and you’ll find their probiotics costs 50-100 dollars. This is robbery and a scam. Nobody gives a fuck about you if they are charging that much. Dr. Jeff’s progam cost 900 dollars, but if you read all the testimonials, its all people saying “wow, I lost so much weight” when the program is clearly for Candida. He also is not a doctor.
People are banking off this illness because for one, nobody knows shit about it. No guru actually suffered it.
Understand that what a product claims as having 50 billion colony forming units might have had that AT TIME OF MANUFACTURE, not after it’s been freeze dried, encapsulated then sent through UPS or FedEx trucks across the globe to your house. Lactobacilli can dry out and be rehydrated however some microbes cant. This is why Lactobacilli are so popular because they can easily be shipped. Other microbes cant.
Another key point is understand there are varying degrees of this illness. Some people have yeast infections, some have diarrhea, some people have systemic candidiasis where like me, their entire body is infused with it, presuming it’s actually “Candida”.
You will find NUMEROUS candida gurus on the web. The talk about it as if they actually got a microscope and visually have studied this microbe. Basically all this knowledge turns into telephone, like when you were a kid; one person makes a claim, another person interprets it as truth and then emotions and ego gets involved which makes it all the more ugly. On the OPPOSITE end, you have those who are skeptical of everything, they think Candida is bullshit, they think only studies are the truth, etc. But the problem with this is there are thousands of diseases out there that do not have the funding for them to be fully researched nor are there enough people who have these sicknesses for them to want to research it fully in a labratorial and clinical setting. Correction: There probably are enough sick people with it, but nobody knows what it is because of all the comorbidities. You might have 5 different symptoms going on that are caused by the same thing, but the doctors think they are 5 different unrelated problems going on. They are not taught to think abstractly, but rather rudimentarily e.g. you go in and tell them your asshole itches, your farting and your sneezing, but they see that as two complete different problems.
Candida from what I’ve gathered is only going to go away if you can get your immune system in check. To do that, you have to be healthy, to be healthy involves good healthy eating and doing things that do not foster it’s growth e.g. sleep, no stress, etc. Doctors are taught to patch problems, not treat the underlying cause. Pharmaceutical industry makes no money off Candida because the cure is eating healthy, so there is no incentive. The medical industry and big pharma are very tightly nit together.
I went to an allergist, 3 medical doctors, a neurologist, etc. They all made remarks or suggestions for me to go on an SSRI. What the fuck? For my gas, the doctor wanted to put me on a proton pump inhibitor–last I knew, gas was caused from bacteria/yeast fermenting food in your stomach. Whats even more interesting is if you talk with these doctors, you’ll see large gaps in their knowledge. One doctor I talked to didn’t even know what serotonin was but was trying to prescribe me an SSRI because he thought I was simply just depressed. How can you prescribe something but not intimately know it’s effects? I digress…
Microbials in the stomach play a huge part in your immune system from what I’ve researched. From reading National Institute of Health database studies, to various books on digestion, it is clear bacteria influence the immune system to an immense degree. How to put the thousands back into place, or know even IF they are gone, is the challenge. There is no way to tell what microbes were destroyed in your stomach and no way to know how to put them back. Some may have been lost forever according to various researchers.
There are tons of pathogenic microbes, why Candida is the sole star here I’m not particular sure. Understand there are other things possibly going on.
I started making kefir and so far I have not noticed a big difference in drinking it. I will continue to take it and see what happens. So far, nothing significant.
This illness is manageable, but I’m not sure if it is curable. I have not found ANY testimonial of someone if SYSTEMIC candida, who was cured. Only people with minor symptoms like yeast infections, etc.
They say food digests in the stomach for 4-7 hours however, if I eat fruit or drink milk I get gas within an hour or 2. So, I’m thinking something is going into the small intestine and something isn’t right there. I wonder if Candida is in the small intestine? Supposedly, not much bacteria there. Most gas is produced in the colon they say, but I get gass immediately after eating which tells me opposite of what my research says.
I have never experienced “Die-off” either. When drinking kefir, or taking probiotics, I never felt this die-off people talk about. I think this is more of something people with psoriasis or celiac disease experience from studies I read about. If your feeling like shit from something your doing, don’t discount that you might be doing something harmful to your body. Feeling terrible effects isn’t always “Die off”.
When researching things, question all of it. Never take all this information as truth but also do not become so skeptical you’re becoming dogmatic and disbelieving everything just for the sake of doing so–you HAVE to take leaps of faith in some things. Candida is a perfect example. It’s not well researched by medical doctors–it’s researched very thoroughly by scientists, but not doctors. These two groups do not pass knowledge to each other. Scientist may discover something but the doctors don’t find out about this discovery till years later. Scientist are typically the investigators and the ones doing the deep research, while doctors are just the middle men who interpret this science to you. Scientist are lifetime researchers whereas many doctors learn what they needed to learn for Med school, then research doesn’t continue through out their life. I see this constantly. Like people their are proactive and initiative doctors. It’s trying to find them. So, some things you need to use your “faith” or intuition as to what is going on, and piece things together accordingly.
All our bodies are different and we reaction differently, build anti-bodies to different things etc, but I find drinking milk and eating sugars causes the most problems for me. I found this out even before learning about Candida and the sugar connection.
Make sure you log everything and keep a diary of everything.
Research probiotics, candida, intestinal health, etc. using the NIH databases, reputable resources.
LEARN GOOGLE SEARCH OPERATORS so you can filter bullshit guru sites that are out for making money, and create an exclusion list of things you know are bullshit.
Sign up for consumer reports to find out what probiotics and supplements are tested to meet what the product is marketed as. Does it really have 80 billion CFU? etc.
Understand nobody gives a shit about you if they are selling a “solution” to your candida issue for $1000. Probiotics cost unbelievable amounts of money. Find good sources and ones thoroughly researched.
I meet every symptom of HPA axis dysfunction (Hypothalamus/Pituitary/Adrenal Axis) which is one of those terms that makes your doctor cock his head with a puzzled look on his face. It’s not a medically studied topic, but I do believe it’s real. You’ll often have one of those chick-before-the-egg questions in your head when it comes to Candida–did my candida get caused by stress, or is candida causing my stress? Did my overactive adrenal glands happen from allergic reactions to food, or is this causing the allergic reactions? This is where a log or diary is essential.
Stress seems to be directly linked with Candida for me. All these mystery symptoms flair up during stress. So there seems to be a connection. Stress apparently from what I read has a big influence on your microbes in your stomach. I don’t have a microscope and a $80,000 degree to verify this, but its a sound idea.
Working out too hard seems to make me sick as well. If I workout a lot, I feel ill. I read somewhere that lots of physical exertion can cause leaky gut, allowing pathogenic microbes to get in. Recently, i’ve not worked out much. I’m trying to calm my body.
The last 6-7 months of really knowing I was ill has taught me a lot, especially from a psychological perspective. I don’t know if there is a cure, I don’t know of anyone with SYSTEMIC candida has been cured, I know there are TONS of scams, and I’m trying to wade through it all and filter it the best I can. There are no experts on the matter that I’ve come across except for very knowledge people. I don’t know anyone who has actually studied the microbe itself.
At times I feel ok, I can actually feel alright, but much of the time I’m sick, and I feel very ill. Sleeping, eat GAPS diet, and avoiding stress seems to allow me to feel the closest to being well, but the slight deviation from this I’m very ill again. So, I can live a manageable life but I have to eliminate a lot of things from my previous life. I cannot drink anymore, I cannot go out to bars like I used to, I cannot eat ice cream cones with my daughter, I cannot eat pizza, etc. I can, but I pay for it.
I’ve found that all this has strengthened something in me, but at the same time is making me very weak. It’s a strange paradox. It has changed my outlook on life. I’ve become so sick at times, I’ve prepared my life insurance papers in anticipation.
Follow the GAPS diet, sleep well, avoid stress and you’ll be able to handle this. Do differently, you’re going to live in sheer hell.July 1, 2013 at 12:13 am #107038
goingnaturalMemberTopics: 38Replies: 249
First, off welcome to the forum (or at least your first post).
To be blunt with ya, I didn’t read everything you wrote, and I’m not sure what you are expecting in terms of a response. However, it is clear that you have given this a lot of thought.
I know that you wonder if this is all real? I could quote you all the doctors, microbiologists, and scientists I’ve read; but I won’t.
Just look around you. Obese, unhappy, tired, and generally sick people are EVERYWHERE. Almost every adult is popping a pill for some autoimmune and or chronic disease we have a name for. We daily consume chemicals created in a lab, eat sugar like it is an essential nutrient, and take antibiotics for everything. We have hundreds of trillions of bacterial cells in our body to 1 trillion human cells. The #1 visit to a doctor in america is for stomach issues. Surely, something has gone wrong. We left what was natural long ago. Our excess, what some call, “The King’s Diet”, coupled with westernized dogma — We know best — has created illnesses not seen 100 years ago.
Give your body a chance, take out the bad, put in the good. It may take some time, after all you being sick didn’t happen overnight, but I promise you your body can heal. Who knows, you may be a “believer” in all of this yet …July 1, 2013 at 12:42 pm #107048
I know that it is all real. My hunch is that there is a cure (haven’t seen much evidence) and that eating foods geared to thwarting this condition can heal your body however; nobody knows exactly what to do. We have good ideas, but nobody has found a surefire way to be healed of this particular problem.
I never said there wasn’t a problem. I’m saying nobody knows how to systematically correct certain health problems. “Eat healthy” everyone says but everybody has a different need for their bodies or conditions. We cannot all eat apples and feel good. We cannot all be vegans and feel good. Different approaches are required for different conditions and problems.
You are right that we need to take out the bad and put in the good. I’m sure over time–perhaps long periods of time, people can heal by eating good foods. It’s identifying however what are the good foods when you have a condition. Whole grain oats are healthy, but not for someone like me who gets reactions to them. Watermelons and cantaloupe are healthy foods, but not for me with my condition. Once again, it’s identifying what people need for their conditions.
There is a balance somewhere, but it’s trying to find it.July 1, 2013 at 12:47 pm #107049
Also I’m not promoting the GAPS diet over The Candida Diet; I’m for any diet that works. I came to this forum thinking it was “Candida Forum” only realizing later this forum is for The Candida Diet website which is a specific diet.July 1, 2013 at 1:08 pm #107051
goingnaturalMemberTopics: 38Replies: 249
It is true that many of us have different sensitivities to foods so in that sense, of course, there is no “one size fits all formula”. However, all of us, sticking to a whole foods based diet, void of chemicals and sugars over the long term will go far in giving the body the fuel to heal.July 1, 2013 at 7:26 pm #107069
rasterParticipantTopics: 104Replies: 6828
A lot of your symptoms are related to candida but not all are caused by candida. Some of your symptoms are caused by a damaged liver, lack of trace minerals, nutritional and vitamin deficiencies, too many toxins, etc.
Have you started to put together a plan on what you are going to do?
Your post is very long and I didn’t go through it thoroughly because of its length. Are you posting this at multiple websites because it seems well prepared? Have you considered consulting a naturopathic doctor who can heal and treat you better than people on the internet?
Here is dr. mcoombs candida symptoms list:
-rasterJuly 2, 2013 at 1:51 am #107083
Why would I post just because it’s well prepared? Odd response.
I’m using the internet because like you, I’m looking for answers. Are you currently going to a naturopathic who has healed you?July 2, 2013 at 6:17 am #107094
alexalgebraMemberTopics: 41Replies: 643
I actually read the majority of your post. I have a similar background to you – ate pretty healthy, but I used to party too hard years ago, and kind of replaced alcohol with junk food when I got sober, so I would try to balance out my junk food habit with organic salads or whatever :p
Anyway, I’m one of those folks everyone would look at and say, “Oh Alex, you’re so healthy!” when I actually was really sick and just didn’t know why or with what.
I had a lot of the same symptoms as you and others – fatigue, brain fog, irrational anxiety, irritability, digestive troubles, a lot of colds, etc.
There are also others on the site that are “cured” or close to it – raster, dvjorge have both been at it for quite a long time, using different methods, and are both pretty recovered. Also, myself and shayfo, we both started this diet and protocol about 6 and a half months ago, and both of us are now starting to reintroduce foods and feeling pretty darn good. I, personally, just went on tour for a week and a half and am about to be gone for a month on tour again and then being a camp counselor for a week. I managed to stick pretty close to the diet, flubbed a little (on purpose and on accident, stupid hidden ingredients)…I had 2 bad days when I got home where I was definitely detoxing and recovering, but it’s now 5 days later and today I feel AMAZING! I even tested a new food (peapods) and am feeling dandy. This is a HUGE fucking deal, because in the end of March, I went to a local gaming convention and didn’t cheat or overdo it that much, but still ended up taking almost two months to recover. A four-day recovery time is a freaking miracle considering that I was still feeling like shit even back in May.
The basic things that have gotten me through this are:
1. I truly, truly believe in my heart of hearts that being vegetarian has really helped cut my recovery time down from those who aren’t. Shayfo is also veg and has had the same timeline as me, more or less.
2. Working from home, trying to stay relaxed as much as possible and not freaking out when “life happens.”
3. Taking a vacation to my cousin’s place in LA this winter. I had a bad reaction one day while I was there, but being in the warmth and sun and forcing myself to take a week off of work was a really, really good idea. Staying with someone that let me use his kitchen was great, because I could stay on the diet but still kick back and hang out in the Cali sunshine 🙂 (Also, holy shit, the avocados down there are to die for!!)
4. Staying EXTREMELY STRICT with the diet!! I did not “cheat” or go off the diet at all until this past month, where I’ve fudged some things because of feeling pretty recovered and just to help make my life on the road a little easier. My fudges include one cup or less of coffee a day when I have to be up at ass o’clock and talking to screaming teenagers all day, carrots (no more than 1/day, usually more like 1/2 a day), tomatoes (maybe 1/2 every other day), and unsweetened hemp milk (goes in the coffee). Nothing too terrible. I ate one strawberry last week (bad idea) and accidentally ate something with sugar in it (bad idea, stupid hidden ingredients) :p
5. Yoga!! I can’t tell you how much one yoga class a week helps! I think two would be ideal but I can’t afford it.
6. Trying not to worry about how much I spend on food, and instead focus on how it really all evens out because I’m not spending that money on alcohol or eating out.
7. Keeping a positive attitude – EXTREMELY important! I have bad days still (last Thursday and Friday I was a fucking mess, trust me), but if I try to pull out of them as best as I can, my days feel great. Even when I was feeling more sick, just trying to focus on being best friends with my body and helping body fight this shit off would help me, and I think it really helped my healing.
8. Sleeping as much as necessary and not using an alarm clock. Basically, since I work from home, I can set my own schedule. So if I go to bed early and wake up at 9, cool, if I can’t sleep or don’t want to and stay up late, I can also start my day at 2 pm. It’s pretty awesome and liberating and definitely has helped speed up my healing.
Those are the biggest things that helped me out. Good luck on your journey and feel free to message me with any questions or anything. Welcome to the forum!July 2, 2013 at 7:08 pm #107123
Alex, I appreciate your reply.
Unfortunately for me I’m under extreme stress most days albeit much of it can be controlled cognitively. Working a full-time job that is very mentally demanding then I have a second job I work on the weekends doing the complete opposite, no mental work instead heavy manual labor in a lumber yard for extra bills to pay off bills, etc. So I’ve got my fair share of stress which probably isn’t helping this newly acquired mystery illness.
I’m glad to hear of all the success people are having here–particularly why stuck around because curezone.com for example was a bit of a joke and was full of very lost individuals. Here it’s nice to see that people are developing strategies, sharing information, and that’s important for something like this that has been disregarded by the medical doctors and the schools which train them.
It’s interesting you mention yoga because when I became sick in January–or rather when it was at its pinnacle, I considered it to perhaps help me 1.) calm down 2.) stretch which engages your nervous system and can help refocus your mind. Instead, I went to a Chiropractor who did functional medicine that was going to pursue my illness I came to him for, but it was all too expensive, and instead I got a session of deep massage for my extreme tight muscles, and on my own accord followed the GAPS diet, was on L-glutamine for possible leaky gut healing, would drink whey protein shakes everyday–whey isolate with no lactose in it so they my brain was getting good amounts of amino acids for my body (l-typtophan for serotonin, l-tyrosine for dopamine, etc). I wanted to make sure I wasn’t shorting myself for mental health nutrition. Anyhow, in March 2013 I was feeling pretty good. I was doing the following:
- Wasn’t eating simple sugar products at all
- Was eating bone broths and soups
- Made all my meals based on the GAPS, SCD, Candida Diet recipes
- Eating lots of spinach, green leafy foods, etc.
- Stopped drinking my water from the tap and would drink distilled water so I wouldn’t start killing my good bacteria (or what was left of it)
- Was taking Ultra Flora 80billion cfu
- Was eating things to help prepare my gut-lining (whey protein, etc.)
- FORCING myself to go to bed early which is hard with my family and work
- Reduced my second jobs hours to where I only work weekends (Before was working during the week after second job!
- Would try to do mindful type meditation, etc. I found it cheesy at first, but I had the epiphony that my mental health probably had more to do with this illness than anything else.
- Stopped going out on weekends
- Changing the amount of food I ate in a sitting and how long I chewed my food
- Sat out in the sun for 30 minutes a day because my day job I see no sun at all. My Vitamin D levels had to have been extremely low
When I got ill again, I was deviating ever so slightly back to more carbs–I would eat an entire bowl of kidney beans with olive oil, onions and garlic (taste great!), stopped probiotics because I wasn’t sure if they were doing anything and they were costing me a FORTUNE. I hate spending money on stuff that I cannot verify is working. I can say, out of all I listed above, something of them or them all combined, was doing something positive. The kidney beans to my surprise–thinking they were ok–had quite a bit of carbs. Certain things I thought were ok, were not (just now realizing this).
One thing that really sucks for me is when I work my weekend job (Yes, I should quit it, but I got bills to pay till December) is when I do lots of physical labor, I start getting really dizzy on this diet and I need some source of energy. So I’ll eat kidney beans or something before this job. I have noticed one thing:
- Doing a lot of physical labor or the like, eating a carb meal (not simple sugar meal) before this doesn’t seem to spark Candida like symptoms. This is probably because your body is immediately using up all the energy before the Candida or whatever the fuck it is, to it first.
And yes, staying positive is very important. I’m NOT depressed whatsoever but I frequently think about offing myself when I’m feeling sick for days on end. With an illness like this, you fall through the cracks with these medical doctors, they dismiss you, and you’re left to fend on your own and it’s insane. Then to add insult to injury, you scour the internet only to find scam after scam and pseudoscience after pseudoscience, egotistical asshole after egotistical asshole in forums. Gets discouraging.
Anyone, I appreciate everyones contributions on this forum. It’s great to see all the minds working together on this problem, rather than everyone kind of fending on their own against this beast.
I often wonder how many people kill themselves from this illness because they think what they are feeling is merely what the doctors tell them, “ahh, it’s normal, your hypochondriac” then live thinking that’s “normal” and then off themselves because of the PHYSICAL pain, not mental pain.July 2, 2013 at 8:41 pm #107129
alexalgebraMemberTopics: 41Replies: 643
Yeah, man, I wish you could quit one of your jobs; I think it would really help you relax and feel better. The thing is, your body only has so much to work with, like so many resources, you know? And if you’re spending them on stuff like working, working out, extraneous activities, then they aren’t going towards healing and you will get really exhausted and not see as much of an improvement. I have basically had to think about my body as my best friend and treat it accordingly, you know? Would I beat up my best friend when she’s sick? Nope! Would I ask her what I could do to help or to take away extra stress or work so she could focus on getting better? Yep!
Also, man, I can so relate about wanting to off yourself on bad days 🙁 I hate it, but that is the first place I go when I am having a bad day. It’s like…I can’t take it another second! But I have 95% good days and 5% bad days at this point, instead of the other way around, so I know it’s worth it to hang in there.
Also, Curezone is scary as fuck. I was browsing once and read a story about a dude that “cured his Candida” by doing a 40-day URINE FAST. Yes, it’s exactly what it sounds like. :/
Oh, also, I can’t remember why and I’m actually on the clock right now so I don’t have time to look it up, but there’s some reason you shouldn’t drink too much distilled water. I would stick with something filtered, not distilled.July 5, 2013 at 7:17 am #107249
Smitty99MemberTopics: 27Replies: 227
the symptoms I was reading that you were going through and the lifestyle of working out and being active sounds almost identical to my story.
I now look at candida differently than when this all began. the years of eating sugary crap.foods and binge drinking on the weekends was like continuously adding gasoline to a giant pile of wood. no fire so no problem. everything seems ok. I mean I work out regularly and play sports so what’s the big deal?
well that is until the match is lit and the years of gasoline gets ignited. in our case it was prolonged traumatic stress. this type of stress can literally stall your immune system and send your blood sugar up. candida spread like wildfire cuz of all the previous damage.
you can’t even believe how sick you are when you’ve never had issues before. at least that’s how I felt. I’ve been battling since March and it all started for me.with a sore throat too. was prescribed antibiotics three times making my situation worse and worse. then came the food allergies which brought on the severe headaches. I never have headaches prior to this. then came sinus.pressure and ear infections. heart palpilations. intense anxiety and stress.
you don’t have systemic candida. that’s an overused term. if you had that. candida would be in your blood stream attacking your vital organs and you’d be in a hospital.bed.
that’s not tp say what we are goin through isn’t Damn serious cuz it is. the only way to beat this is with patience and knowledge. you need.to be way.more.strict with your diet cuz u are feeding the candida still. you should follow ables protocol. its outlined everything. it was developed by raster and able and they are the two most knowledgeable ppl on the forum but everyone here is great.
your infection sounds quite serious so you should start as soon as possible. as raster would say. find yourself a naturopath with a background in candida. chances of finding a knowledgeable md on the subject. slim to none.
sorry for the grammar. typed this via a phone lol
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