- September 10, 2011 at 4:17 am #65191
I’m trying to figure out what to do next. This is where my candida journey has taken me…
Over the summer I was feeling horrible- fatigued, sweating profusely, bloated, foggy brain, irregular period, was running but could not seem to loose weight or feel healthy, dry eyes, headaches, and the list goes on. I thought it was my thyroid so I cut most carbs, white sugar, diet coke, etc out of my diet while I found a dr to see. I found an md that practices hollistic medicine and had to wait 3 weeks to see him. So I was on a very low carb diet for 3 weeks by the time I saw him.
Once I saw the dr he put me on a diet but didn’t mention candida. I was very overwhelmed and have never been one to take medicines so he decided to take a conservative approach however he did not sugar coat it and it scared the crap out of me. These are the things I am doing: I am taking 3 tsp of coconut oil a day, a digestive enyzme 2x day, drainage drops 5 drops 2x day, chaste tree am, warm water with lemon mostly in the morning, minced garlic in salads. He suggested a master cleanse- but I am not open to that right now. Told me to incorporate ginger, cayenne pepper, and cinammon into my diet.
Luckily a friend asked if the dr mentioned candida because the diet seemed to be a candida diet. I found this site and it has been extremely helpful.
I’m buying organic produce, organic/free range meats, organic eggs, etc. And this is what I’m eating right now:
Breakfast: eggs with tomatoes and avocodoes, eggs with spinach, or greek yogurt with walnuts (soaked) or almonds and sometimes berries.
Snack/ Lunch: raw nuts, celery sticks with cream cheese, sometimes quinoa crackers with guacamole, butter, or hummus. I miss the crunch so the quinoa crackers satisfy that need. Also zucchini soup, sometimes eggs similar to breakfast, or the chicken quinoa salad. Sometimes I have a spoon of cottage cheese.
Dinner: lean meats, veggies i.e. eggplant, zucchini, yellow squash, salads with raw garlic, shallots, and quinoa and assorted veggies and garbanzo beans.
And I am having a hard time with all of the raw garlic, shallots, and onions that I am eating. I feel like the taste comes up from my stomach into my mouth so my weakness is a square of 82% dark chocolate.
About a week ago I felt horrible- extremely fatigued and broke out from one day to the next. I followed some of the indications for the die off and things seemed to stabilize. I feel a lot better than I did during the summer but not 100%. The sweating which to me was the worst symptom is much better and while my priority was feeling well I’ve also lost weight and don’t feel bloated. So I feel like what I’m doing is working. But I have to admit that I’m afraid of not feeling well again and I’m not sure what to do next.
I just got the results of my bloodwork and everything was normal so nothing underlying that is causing my symptoms.
I buy the whole foods organic yogurt with probiotics. But I’m wondering if I need something more or what else I should be doing.
SandraSeptember 10, 2011 at 8:07 am #65197
It doesn’t matter that you’re eating only dark chocolate instead of regular; you’re still feeding the Candida every time you eat this.
If you’ll cut out the cream cheese as well as the cottage cheese you’re more likely to eventually see an improvement as both of these are feeding the Candida. As long as you’re killing and feeding the Candida both, you will not see a permanent cure, but only continue the cycle.
What type of guacamole, butter and humus are you eating?
As far as the doctor’s suggestion for a master cleanse is concerned, the diet would be a form of cleanse if you would clean it up a bit, but not as it is at this time.
If the garlic, shallots, and onions are bothering you, you can easily remove either the shallots or onions completely without a problem. Instead of using dark chocolate to remedy this try a product by the name of Digestive Grape Bitters as it will be a lot healthier than the dark chocolate, especially at this time. If you decide to purchase the bitters, let me know and I’ll let you know how to use them.
If you’ll let me know the names of the digestive enzyme and drainage drops you’re on I’ll check these out. Even though a doctor recommended these, believe it or not, quite often there are factors involved with the products which they overlook.
From your post I take it that you’ve read about Molybdenum and Candidate being useful for the die-off symptoms. Correct?
Did the doctor not suggest that you take a probiotic?
AbleSeptember 10, 2011 at 10:02 am #65202
Thank you so much for replying.
I will eliminate the cream cheese and cottage cheese.
I make the guacamole with avocados, cilantro, salt, and lime juice. I make the hummus with organic chick peas, garlic, olive oil, and tahini. I’m using kerrygold butter.
I will look into digestive grape bitters.
I am taking the Medicine’s name complete nutritional enzyme- 1 am and 1 in pm on empty stomach. And energetix drainage tone.
I did read some posts about the die off but the names you referenced do not look familiar. I will look at those too.
The dr did not suggest taking a probiotic. I left the dr’s knowing that my body was full of toxins, that my body was holding on to stress, that I should start with the diet and supplements, and await the bloodwork results to see if there was something underlying causing my symptoms. I do have to go back but it takes weeks to get an appt.
SandraSeptember 10, 2011 at 11:28 am #65205
Kerrygold Butter is a dairy product as it contains pasteurized cream which is feeding the Candida whenever you eat it. If you really need to use a type of butter, a product called “ghee” is the only safe type. It’s much, much stronger than regular butter, so you don’t need to use near as much, but it’s also much more expensive. If you stop using butter altogether, you’ll find that in time you don’t miss it at all.
If you’re using regular table salt, check the ingredients, it probably contains either damaging additives and/or Dextrose. Dextrose is a sugar which feeds the Candida. Purchase pure Himalayan sea salt which contains nothing but pure pink salt (because it’s unprocessed it retains the pink color of the sea rocks from which it’s taken as well as all the minerals we need for health).
I still don’t know what type of enzymes you’re taking. “Medicine’s name complete nutritional enzyme” produced dozens of brand choices on Google. Is there a particular brand name?
The Energetix Drainage Tone is a homeopathic remedy which I see no problem with, but I really have little knowledge on homeopathic medicine as I believe it normally works much too slowly for logical use.
Exactly how long have you been on the diet you named? Actually, you weren’t really lowering the number of Candida in your body a great deal as you were feeding them at the same time.
I completely understand that you do not wish to take ‘medicine’ so please realize that I never recommend medicines as they’re described. I had much rather recommend a natural product which can do the same as a medicine and often obtain a better and quicker positive reaction. I stated that so that you will understand when I say that neither Molybdenum nor Candidate are actually “medicines.” Molybdenum is a natural trace mineral which is naturally found in the human body, and Candidate is purely a mixture of herbs. If you decide to take only one of these, definitely take the Molybdenum as it will also protect the liver from dangerous Candida toxins.
AbleSeptember 10, 2011 at 1:46 pm #65210
I appreciate all of your insight.
I will give ghee a try.
I just checked my salt and when I thought my symptoms were thyroid related, I switched to an iodized sea salt. So I will make sure to get the himalayan sea salt.
I might have had a typo. It’s The Medicine Man’s nutritional supplement: Complete nutritional enzymes. Formerly Complete Nutrients for digestion. Contains pancreatic enzymes, papaya enzyme, pineapple enzyme, and curcuma longa (root) extract.
I’ve been on this diet for three weeks.
I am going to try Molybdenum. While some symptons have improved dramatically I still have brain fog and I read that it could help with that.
SandraSeptember 10, 2011 at 2:47 pm #65214
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I once was at this point and just gotta say keep up the diet. Give it 1-2 more months and it’ll do wonders.
I personally had a bad leaky gut reaction to the quinoa; so this may have to be removed as well. It is technically a grain and still has low amounts of gluten. I recommend trying to replace it with buckwheat, which is a little bit healthier in my opinion. Save the quinoa for phase 2 of the diet.
Switch the salt…good idea. Anything with salt added to it (such as roasted sunflower seeds) isn’t healthy either. Just get the raw ones. Maybe cut the almonds and save for phase 2…its up to you.
As far as the doctor…I recommend visiting a naturopathic doctor if you haven’t done so already. He may possibly suggest some (different) homiopathic enzymes that will help like the grape bitters. I feel that homiopathics do work…so I would continue to take it.
Also leave any beef or pork out of your diet if you haven’t already done so.
Relating to the fatigue…your adrenals are completely drained, so you will need a good b-vitamin to help heal you. If you are drinking any coffeee..stop it immediately because it doesn’t help. Get more exercise to build these adrenals up.
The bloodwork won’t show much information at all. They will never be able to properly diagnose candida, and it’ll take many tests and specialists (expense) to figure this out and they may even find you to be normal.September 10, 2011 at 4:48 pm #65227
raster wrote: Relating to the fatigue…your adrenals are completely drained, so you will need a good b-vitamin to help heal you. If you are drinking any coffeee..stop it immediately because it doesn’t help. Get more exercise to build these adrenals up.
Concerning Raster’s statements above, please disregard everything other than the coffee suggestion. First of all no one knows whether or not your adrenal glands are ‘drained’ as he seems to be so sure of. In fact, since you say that the die-off protocol stabilized the fatigue, it was almost certain to be caused by die-off rather than completely drained adrenals.
As far as his statement, “Get more exercise to build these adrenals up” is concerned, please ignore this statement as well. Only a healthy diet and the correct supplements will do that job. In fact, taking strenuous exercise is advised against since it only aggravates the fatigue as well as drained or low adrenal glands. Although a very mild type of exercise may not hurt, rest works ten times better in the case of drained adrenals.
As far as The Medicine Man’s Enzymes (Amylase + Lipase + Proteolase) are concerned, if you get the Digestive Grape Bitters you won’t need that product. Taking pure enzymes such as those simply teaches the body that you do not need its help in producing natural enzymes since they’re being supplied from elsewhere. In time, your digestive system will depend on you to always supply enzymes so that your body can digest the food you eat. Digestive Grape Bitters do not do this as they simply stimulate the proper functions of the body so that it can supply the needed enzymes in the correct amounts at any given time.
Grape Bitters have other uses as well; they generally improve the micro-environment of the digestive system from the stomach to the large intestine.
Bile flow is increased reducing the incidence of gallbladder disease and improving the self-cleansing action of the liver.
Grape Bitters also stimulate the repair of the intestinal-wall lining caused by Leaky Gut Syndrome and Candida in general.
AbleSeptember 11, 2011 at 4:17 am #65232
Raster- thank you for the encouragement to keep at the diet and it helps knowing that it does get better. I realize that everyone’s experiences are different so I appreciate you taking the time to share yours.
Able- I was was running and doing p90x and was told to scale down on exercising and to do nothing more than a walk each day so I concur that doing strenous exercise for me right now is not the answer. I am going to look to switch to grape bitters. Thank you for all the information. I am going to implement some of the changes recommended. So grateful I found this site.
SandraSeptember 11, 2011 at 10:13 am #65241
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Before I go off on one, I’ll start by saying that I think I have a candida issue but have not managed to complete the diet yet as it’s do darn hard and the last time I got the most terrible die off symptoms which left me only just able to go to work everyday!
From what I have read (which is loads now), I think you are doing tremendously well and well done for finding a solution so soon. When I first started feeling ill I turned to sugar to perk me up so I made it a million times worse for myself!
I agree with all of the information about the dairy, equally caffeine is generally a no no. Anything with sugar replacements is also a no go so the 2 above pretty much rule out that dark chocolate. The way I think of it is that if you are substituting a normal food with something else, usually you still can’t have it. Stick to the things that are definitely fine in terms of your salad, etc. Some people suggest garlic tablets…have you tried these instead of so much raw garlic? Might slow you down a bit but is more socially acceptable and might make it easier to stick to.
You are doing so well so make sure you do push on and get all the way back to better, it’s very easy to think you will never feel well again but I have read loads of accounts of full recoveries now so it is definitely possible.
Check out my blog, it will show you how well you are doing compared to a lot of us out there: http://candidafree.wordpress.com/ (if this blocks the link, it’s called Candida Free and is on WordPress).September 12, 2011 at 11:05 am #65254
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As far as the exercise comment; I did not mean strenuous exercise, but just what you can handle (walks are a perfect way to get exercise). If you wear yourself down too much, it won’t really help.
On a side note: Plenty rest is definitely the best thing you need to fight candida. You may need as much as 8-9 hours to heal properly on the diet. Don’t short change your sleep! This will go a long ways to get your body more daily energy.September 14, 2011 at 10:51 pm #65315
Thanks Samantha B- I will check out your blog.
Thanks raster- my inclination was definitely to work out harder and it’s been an adjustment to have to slow down. I appreciate your feedback.
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