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    kjones02
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    I love your posts! Your words are so encouraging all the time. I mean to chime in on your posts, but then I don’t.

    I love to drink hot drinks; warms me up (since I am very thin), and just relaxes me. However, people are right that some teas can have just a stimulating effect as coffee.

    I like the yogi brand, and I have noticed that I need to stick to taking no extra supplements if I drink tea in the morning.

    I just wondered what is your favorite to drink? Just trying to get some good advice on some that are stimulating, but yet calming. I like that feeling. I just drank one this morning, sorry, it has caffeine, but I notice that a mixture of l-theanine (in the tea), already take l-theanine at times (very calming effect), is very good.

    A couple I have tried are good bedtime teas, too, and make me very sleepy, especially this one I noticed, Kava Stress Relief, but not sure about a couple of the ingredients.

    Thanks again!

    #116590

    Vegan Catlady
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    I appreciate your kind words 🙂 it made my day

    Im a tea freak. I just counted 32 boxes of tea on my shelf, not including the loose leaf,lol.

    One thing I think needs to be taken into consideration (tea-drinking cultures know this best)is that tea (fermented or not,black,white,green,herbal,ect)has many other constituents that help the body to metabolize it in a way that does not cause adverse affects.

    So the stimulation part will happen with green/black/white teas, but I doubt there would be the same accumulatory issues that happen with coffee drinkers.
    I drink coffee too sometimes. A well-filtering system handles the caffeine fine.

    I dont avoid caffeine. I dont take it into consideration at all. Its not a factor, but in your case I would tell you that almost all the teas I have at home make it a point to tell you how much caffeine is in each cup.

    There have been lots of studies done on tea and tea-extracts.
    The teas I drink the most are the ones that are gentle in effect so that I can do quantity over quality.

    Green teas, white teas and teas with lemongrass are the ones I favor most.

    My unique perspective here is that I dont want to supplement with anything that isnt close to natural or what i would take as a food, as much as possible. My only exceptions are occasional doses of vitamin C,biotin, and when they arrive in the mail…my tinctures for endocrine and adrenal glands.

    So this decides what I drink, what I know will offer my body the greatest benefit to heal itself, instead of my intellect doing the healing. I say this so that anyone reading understands what my choices are guided by.

    Tension Tamer by Celestial Seasonings has been a real treat.
    It contains Eleuthero (siberian ginseng) which is an adaptogen for the adrenals- meaning, it does what the body needs for balancing, instead of what “I” think the body needs.
    It has antifungals such as cinnamon and lemongrass,chamomile and ginger,catnip and a few B vitamins. Licorice for the adrenals. This tea was clearly created to repair the adrenals-
    which is something most people need. Adrenal fatigue can actually cause candida, cause hormone disruption, and sleep problems among other things.

    Other teas with Eleuthero are Celestial Seasonings “Antioxidant Green tea” and “Honey Lemon Ginseng”. Both have antifungal and adrenal-supporting herbs.

    Yogi Teas are pretty awesome too.
    I do all the detox versions. The Skin Detox is especially good for candida.
    They have a GreenteaSuper Antioxidant that has grapeseed extract which candida hates, and kidney/liver/adrenal supporting/detoxing herbs.
    Yogi Chai Rooibos is full of candida fighting spices.
    Yogi Moon Cycle makes sure my kidneys are filtering well, supports the immune system, and balances the endocrine system…with the addition of candida-fighting spices.
    Yogi Egyptian Licorice has all the candida-fighting spices while supporting the adrenals as well.

    The best tasting teas are the Tazo Teas.
    My fave is Wild Sweet Orange. I will add this teabag to any of my detox teas that are less tasty,or make a nice iced tea out of it. It has candida-fighting lemongrass and ginger, antioxidants like hibiscus ( nutritionfacts.org says ridiculously great things about hibiscus!),and licorice for the adrenals.
    Tazo Green Ginger has various green teas, ginger,lemongrass, and pear flavor.

    On my thread in the Experiences-part of the forum, I give links to why I drink green tea everyday. Its great for candida-sufferers, I encourage a look-see at that.

    I know some of these teas with greentea have caffeine.
    I have a theory why some of us can actually have some caffeine without ill effect.

    I did decaf everything in the beginning, and didnt notice a measurable relief in it, so I reintroduces caffeine with coffee, so that I could feel my reaction and look for patterns.
    I didnt see any.

    I think some of us have a diet that allows for a faster metabolizing of caffeine and/or blood sugar.

    I know that there is a theory that sugars in the blood that are not impeded by fat are used faster. That seems to be my experience, but others are allowed their own opinion.

    As far as the Bedtime teas, I like the Sleepytime Green because it has gentle antifungals and no caffeine for the kids,but im not a fan of Kava or herbs that make me aggressively sleepy.
    I have a sensitive system, herbs that are strong like Kava and Valerian are great but used for crisis only.

    I can only speak from my experiences, even if they conflict with outside evidence.
    Listening to your own body has to be considered beyond any advice.
    No one knows better what agrees with you than you.

    I look forward to seeing more of your posts-
    I enjoy feedback !

    #116606

    raster
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    I wanted to share my favorite brand: traditional medicinals. They’ve got a variety of detox teas, etc. and one of my favorites is the throat coat tea with echinacea. It has ingredients that heal leaky gut (intestinal lining) and it also promotes digestion and is highly anti-inflammatory.

    When I purchase tea, the single greatest consideration I care about is whether its organic or not and yogi and tazo teas are not organic. Tazo also contains “natural flavors” which could be just about anything including aspartame or MSG. So I would be careful with anything that says “natural flavors” because this isn’t needed in teas imho.

    I also recommend trying out getting raw tea and getting the special thing that filters it out.

    -raster

    #116612

    Vegan Catlady
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    Raw tea or loose tea?
    I have used tea strainers but stopped doing it lately because I read a study where using strainers allowed tea-bits in the tea,and lead in the leaves stays in the leaf and get ingested.
    They say that tea using bags didnt have traces of lead (however you got slightly less EGCg as well).

    None of this would matter to me if I were well, but because im trying to get my immune system in top condition for what I can afford, its actually cheaper to get the bags.

    I hate the taste of Traditional Medicinals, but the formulas are nice.
    I simply cannot afford all organic, especially with a family. I agree its preferred, in a perfect world.
    Too bad it isnt a law.

    #116620

    kjones02
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    One thing I think needs to be taken into consideration (tea-drinking cultures know this best)is that tea (fermented or not,black,white,green,herbal,ect)has many other constituents that help the body to metabolize it in a way that does not cause adverse affects.

    So the stimulation part will happen with green/black/white teas, but I doubt there would be the same accumulatory issues that happen with coffee drinkers.
    I drink coffee too sometimes. A well-filtering system handles the caffeine fine.

    I dont avoid caffeine. I dont take it into consideration at all. Its not a factor, but in your case I would tell you that almost all the teas I have at home make it a point to tell you how much caffeine is in each cup.

    I’m glad you said that about caffeine because I don’t think it necessary affects me that bad at times. Actually, sometimes, just a trace amount helps my nausea, lol. Mainly I just have to watch drinking too much tea, depending on ingredients, or coffee because of acid reflux, which I will always partly have due to my gastroparesis.

    I just don’t like to do caffeine all the time, and I have found I don’t necessary need it all the time. I have noticed that all the teas I have point out the caffeine content, too.

    My unique perspective here is that I dont want to supplement with anything that isnt close to natural or what i would take as a food, as much as possible. My only exceptions are occasional doses of vitamin C,biotin, and when they arrive in the mail…my tinctures for endocrine and adrenal glands.

    Yes, I am trying to realize now that if I drink some kind of tea in the morning or something, that I don’t need my other adrenal supports at the time because the tea is stimulating enough. Mainly, I am finding that I probably need it more mid-morning of lunch time (depending on the day, and if I am drinking only water) to get me through the rest of the day. If I do, then I am probably doing too much stimulation for my body, and then yes, anxiety increases.

    Tension Tamer by Celestial Seasonings has been a real treat.
    It contains Eleuthero (siberian ginseng) which is an adaptogen for the adrenals- meaning, it does what the body needs for balancing, instead of what “I” think the body needs.
    It has antifungals such as cinnamon and lemongrass,chamomile and ginger,catnip and a few B vitamins. Licorice for the adrenals. This tea was clearly created to repair the adrenals-
    which is something most people need. Adrenal fatigue can actually cause candida, cause hormone disruption, and sleep problems among other things.

    I remember getting this tea one time, and if I remember correctly, it did make me feel pretty good!

    I have a sensitive system, herbs that are strong like Kava and Valerian are great but used for crisis only.

    I agree with this statement. I hardly drink these, except in crisis modes, too. I notice I want a sleepytime tea or something else, if I had an especially stressful day, know I am worked up, and will not be able to sleep with my regular supplements that help me sleep.

    When I purchase tea, the single greatest consideration I care about is whether its organic or not and yogi and tazo teas are not organic. Tazo also contains “natural flavors” which could be just about anything including aspartame or MSG. So I would be careful with anything that says “natural flavors” because this isn’t needed in teas imho.

    I hate the taste of Traditional Medicinals, but the formulas are nice.
    I simply cannot afford all organic, especially with a family. I agree its preferred, in a perfect world.
    Too bad it isnt a law.

    Raster, yes, I try to study my teas anymore that I purchase wondering about certain tad ingredients that might leak in there. I have seen Traditional Medicinals tea is the most pure, and I read an article, think foodbabe, about watching the ingredients in your tea. Yes, probably preferred, but as Catlady pointed out; I can’t afford organic everything either. I already have pretty much changed to buying more organic because I know I can tell a difference in my gi symptoms if I don’t.

    For example, I noticed a difference between these 2 types of lunch meat that I buy at my local co-op. I think I have found that I am react to carrageenan. I didn’t put the 2 together until I started eating more seaweed, too. Maybe I can possibly eat some more again later, and I have some veggie-type lasagna in my freezer with it to try it out at times, but it is a test item for me now, depending on symptoms.

    Applegate turkey = Ingredients: Turkey Breast, Water. Contains Less Than 2% Of The Following: Salt, Carrageenan (From Seaweed).

    Organic Prairie Turkey Slices = Ingredients: Organic turkey breast, water, sea salt
    That is it! So much better!!!!

    Just most the time, I can get deals on yogi teas. They are usually on sale at my co-op, and then I am able to get coupons from the boxes at times, so that makes it more affordable.

    I can’t pass up the sale of buying 2/$7, and then have a $2 coupon compared to buying 1 tea box for 5 or 6 bucks.

    Thanks for all the advice you two. I think if I remember right, raster, you posted something before about all the ingredients in teas before. I am going to look for it right now. =)

    #116693

    kjones02
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    fun little quiz to determine your herb personality on traditional medicine teas

    http://traditionalmedicinals.com/plant-personality-quiz/?quiz_results=8O.8P.8R

    I’m a CDF—Chamomile Dandelion Fennel. Easy-going, tough, and sometimes quiet.

    #117143

    Vegan Catlady
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    kjones02;55214 wrote: fun little quiz to determine your herb personality on traditional medicine teas

    http://traditionalmedicinals.com/plant-personality-quiz/?quiz_results=8O.8P.8R

    I’m a CDF—Chamomile Dandelion Fennel. Easy-going, tough, and sometimes quiet.

    Ha! I only just saw this!

    How cute is this?!?

    I am an Echinacea-Nettle-Slippery Elm
    A protector, supportive but not the kind of person for everyone lol,vocal and chatty.

    Yikes. I think they found me out!

    #117189

    Jessgentry26
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    OK so I just wanted to send an update and would love your input… I started the cleanse (i’m on day two) and I have zero sugar craving… and this may sound weird but when i’m doing candida diet i never really have sugar cravings I’m able to drop sugar really easily…the only thing i crave is cauliflower. Yeah, cauliflower like gotta have it now so good cauliflower. When I do eat sugar I go nuts but I crave nuts more than anything when I do have the option of eating sugar and then when I’m on the diet (even when i was on the diet for 2 months strong) I craved cauliflower which causes bloating and I actually believed for awhile cauliflower set off my candida…I know this may sound crazy but any thoughts…? Thank you!

    #117193

    Vegan Catlady
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    Jessgentry26;55710 wrote: OK so I just wanted to send an update and would love your input… I started the cleanse (i’m on day two) and I have zero sugar craving… and this may sound weird but when i’m doing candida diet i never really have sugar cravings I’m able to drop sugar really easily…the only thing i crave is cauliflower. Yeah, cauliflower like gotta have it now so good cauliflower. When I do eat sugar I go nuts but I crave nuts more than anything when I do have the option of eating sugar and then when I’m on the diet (even when i was on the diet for 2 months strong) I craved cauliflower which causes bloating and I actually believed for awhile cauliflower set off my candida…I know this may sound crazy but any thoughts…? Thank you!

    Not crazy at all.

    Its a fact that your taste can change 100% after a certain amount of time away from any particular foods, especially salt and sugar. People that think they couldnt eat certain things begin to want them when their palate is cleansed ( I think it takes 3 weeks? ).

    My ND says that brocolli/cauliflower/garlic/high sulfur foods just dont agree with most folk (there are threads here on why). They are not foods that cause candida overgrowth, but if your not using the sulfur/eliminating it as fast as its going in, it accumulates.
    Some people even claim it causes die-off symptoms.

    Nut cravings could be because your needing more calories.

    #117194

    Jessgentry26
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    But i eat broccoli every day and I don’t develop huge cravings for broccoli just cauliflower, and are you saying the accumulation could cause cravings?

    #117196

    Jessgentry26
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    I also find this with coconut oil and coconut flour….just straight coconut flour. its freaking bizarre.

    #117197

    Vegan Catlady
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    Jessgentry26;55715 wrote: But i eat broccoli every day and I don’t develop huge cravings for broccoli just cauliflower, and are you saying the accumulation could cause cravings?

    No,the accumulation could potentially cause symptoms like head-heaviness, headaches,mucus,ect.

    Cravings are a funny thing. Without tests, the craving could be for something salty, the calories, something that cauliflower provides, it could be the answer to a deficiency that another supplement is causing (whenever we take anything, it has the potential to cause a deficiency in something else ).

    this was a cute article, and some of it is pretty spot-on!
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/diet/Foods-your-organs-crave-for/articleshow/9909598.cms

    #117229

    Jessgentry26
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    I have a question about stool testing for Candidia. In a couple days I will be performing my second stool test because my first one came back negative. My doctor didn’t inform me that I wasn’t supposed to be on any antifungals or supplements 1 week prior to stool testing. This week I have been having a free for all with food, but I have been having coconut oil. Will that screw up my stool testing? Should I wait a whole other week for stool testing? 🙁 I really hate feeling this way and just want to be back on my anti fungals but I really need this stool test to show something. I had coconut oil for 2 days used it with cooking fish etc. Thoughts? Thanks Cat Lady!

    #117231

    Vegan Catlady
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    Its possible that the coconut oil may have a lowering affect on microbe-numbers, but if it was only 2 days of it, I wouldnt worry too much,especially with a free-for-all diet.

    If you had a limiting diet with the coconut, Id worry more that it might affect the outcome….and even with that said, if only 2 days of cooking with coconut was that big of a player in recovery, no one would take years to recover 😉

    #117239

    Jessgentry26
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    OK, good. I also purchased Candiaa5 at home blood testing… any thoughts?

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