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  • #117235

    MadEmx
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    Hi all, it’s been almost a year since I started my candida overgrowth treatment. All of my symptoms are gone except for one. I have seen 3 naturopaths, 2 Western docs and everyone seems stumped. I have a GI specialist appointment in April. My symptom is I get lower belly swelling that comes and goes. I suspect it’s a reaction to something I have eaten. I still do a 4 day rotation diet that is low sugar (only naturally from fruit and veg), grain-free and dairy-free. I still take enzymes and probiotics etc. On any give day I wake up with a Level 1 swelling and some days by the end it’s only a level 2, other days it’s a level 5. Any idea what is happening and what I can do about it?

    Thanks in advance.

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    raster
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    Are you constipated?

    -raster

    #117293

    MadEmx
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    Hi Raster,

    I have a b.m every day. Sometimes two. My ND said it could be difficulty with fat assimilation from meat, nuts, avocado. i’m wondering if it’s leaky gut and I am swelling due to food intolerances or if it is SIBO…. My only symptom is the varying degrees of lower belly swelling. From my belly button and below.

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    Tdog333
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    It’s probably either an immune response which could be due to parasite/bacteria/fungus etc. Or a food allergy. Could also be due to SIBO/SIFO which will generate an immune response and a lotta gas. Are you passing a lot of gas or burping a lot? Any nausea or other digestive trouble? Can you narrow it down to specific foods?

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    MadEmx
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    I don’t have any upper digestive upset (no heartburn or burping, no nausea, no other symptoms other than swelling). I am gassy after some foods but not all. I keep a food journal and document the level of swelling. I didn’t see a pattern, but that’s when my ND suggested the fat assimilation problem. I wondered if I should avoid FODMAPS. I had the IgG testing but I read if it’s leaky gut, the results could change weekly. So I’m not sure if I need to really avoid those foods at all. I don’t notice a huge reaction to them. But, it’s hard to tell because the swelling isn’t immediate, it’s a few hours after my last meal.

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    MadEmx
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    PS what’s my course of action if it’s an immune response?

    TIA

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    Tdog333
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    The response is a few hours afterwards because most foods(depending on the type) remains in the stomach for 2-5 hours after you eat it. So you had the food allergy test done already? Coconut Oil is the easiest fat to digest and absorb just FYI. Does it seem like sometimes you have this swelling problem with a food you have not had it with before? Like If you ate an apple one day you were fine, and then the next time it gave you these symptoms?

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    MadEmx
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    Yes, there are foods I used to be able to eat and now my list is getting more and more limited. I was eating buckwheat a lot in the Summer (while on a 4 day rotation) and when I tried it last week, I had a level 5 out of 10 swelling (most days it’s a 1, 2 or 3). I eat mostly Paleo now and am still reacting to things. On my avoid list as per IgG test was coconut, garlic, beef, eggs, yeast, cow’s milk, lychee (never eat this).

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    Sounds like leaky gut to me probably still some SIBO/SIFO?

    This leads to inflammation throughout your system and can cause symptoms, such as:

    Bloating
    Food sensitivities
    Thyroid conditions
    Fatigue
    Joint pain
    Headaches
    Skin issues like rosacea and acne
    Digestive problems
    Weight gain
    Syndrome X
    One of the biggest warning signs that you may have leaky gut can be that you’re experiencing multiple food sensitivities. Partially digested protein and fat can seep through your intestinal lining making their way into your bloodstream which will cause an allergic response.

    (more here http://draxe.com/4-steps-to-heal-leaky-gut-and-autoimmune-disease/)

    I’m actually writing a paper on this type of stuff right now with someone else.

    Here’s what I’d recommend bringing up with your DR

    Leaky Gut
    Avoid Dairy Gluten Sugar and Phytates temporarily(or permanently if you have that much control)
    Gelatin/Bone Broth for Leaky Gut (great lakes makes a very nice one I use)
    Avoid stress as much as possible
    Maybe glutamine? But it can be converted to glutamic acid so I’m not sure.
    Soothing Herbs such as Aloe Vera, Liccorice Root, Slippery Elm, Marshmellow Root

    SIBO/SIFO
    Minimize Sugar and high glycemic index foods for duration of treatment
    Peppermint Oil 30min to 1 HR before eating each meal 2-3x a day(high success rate in studies)
    Digestive Enzymes and proper betaine HCL with each meal
    SF722 3×5 or more per day
    Oil of Oregano or Berbine(can disrupt colonic flora though)
    Proper Chewing of Food
    Possibly SCD type diet
    For very Severe cases elemental diet as last resort

    Supplement with Probiotics is crucial:
    I reccomend lactobacillus species
    Bactillus Coaguluns is an amazing spore probiotic too.

    Check this out:
    http://www.sabinsa.com/newsroom/articles/bacillus-coagulans-probiotic-choice-march-april-2012.pdf

    Bring all this up with your DR and see what they think. You can pick and choose things you think will help or if you have the money try it all if your DR agrees. I’d be very surprised if your symptoms don’t get better after doing all this.

    The immune reactions will stop once you treat your leaky gut. 😀

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    MadEmx
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    Thank you a billion times over. I will review this with my ND at next app.

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    Tdog333
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    NP! Hope it helps!

    #117321

    MadEmx
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    Hi again,

    I have another question: Since I am reacting to foods that are “clean” and candida diet/leaky gut diet/SIBO diet approved, do I continue eating these things? The reason I ask is I am stuck on this point:

    Can I heal my leaky gut while continuing to eat things I react to? Or do I have to avoid those foods in order to heal my leaky gut? I am obviously cutting out the major ofenders, and following the diet guidelines you recommended above. So, if I react to spinach/coconut oil/chicken, for example, do I no longer eat spinach/coconut oil/chicken? Or, do I continue eating those foods and just deal with the reaction, because my gut will eventually heal and I will no longer be intolerant? I hope that made sense. It certainly does in my head : )

    TIA!

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    The single greatest factor in leaky gut problems is inflammation. For whatever reason you are inflaming your gut. Do you drink coffee or eat fried food? This is likely why the reactions are occurring, its all related to inflammation.

    Here’s a good website to look at for inflammation levels of certain foods:
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/

    Are you taking any anti-inflammatory supplements? Examples include cod liver oil, cinnamon, etc. There is also a leaky gut tea I recommend called throat coat tea, and this will greatly reduce inflammation.

    I don’t think you should cut out the foods that are causing the reactions, you just need to rotate. Don’t pigeon hole yourself into an overly restrictive diet. You are likely reacting because you are getting better not because you are getting worse…when your body becomes more clean, anything can disturb it even slightly.

    I recommend doing acupuncture and maybe do galbladder, pancreas, or small intestine points. This should reduce the swelling and improve your digestion. You could have a specific organ that isn’t working properly such as the ones I mentioned and this could be why you experience swelling. It also could be your colon so you might want to consider hydrotherapy and clean out the colon.

    The gas after eating food is not a good thing at all and this likely is related to deficiencies in stomach acid:

    http://www.thecandidadiet.com/forum/yaf_postst6027_Hydro-chloric-Acid-and-Health–written-by-Dr–McCoombs.aspx

    If food ferments in the gut then it’ll produce gas which causes bloating and farting. This could all be due to stomach acid levels or an organ such as pancreas not functioning optimally.

    -raster

    #117326

    Tdog333
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    MadEmx;55842 wrote: Hi again,

    I have another question: Since I am reacting to foods that are “clean” and candida diet/leaky gut diet/SIBO diet approved, do I continue eating these things? The reason I ask is I am stuck on this point:

    Can I heal my leaky gut while continuing to eat things I react to? Or do I have to avoid those foods in order to heal my leaky gut? I am obviously cutting out the major ofenders, and following the diet guidelines you recommended above. So, if I react to spinach/coconut oil/chicken, for example, do I no longer eat spinach/coconut oil/chicken? Or, do I continue eating those foods and just deal with the reaction, because my gut will eventually heal and I will no longer be intolerant? I hope that made sense. It certainly does in my head : )

    TIA!

    You’re going to react to pretty much anything because of leaky gut. I would avoid the foods that showed up as no good on your allergy test for sure. If you can find stuff that doesn’t set you off that’s good, but the problem is this- good food one day will be bad food the next. So you either just stick with it or find stuff that doesn’t set you off, I’m not really sure on that one.

    The way you will heal your leaky gut is by the things I mentioned above, as well as treating the underlying cause of leaky gut(which the protocol above should help with). Candida can poke holes into your small intestine and cause leaky gut by itself. Raster is right, but it’s about more than just one organ malfunctioning, it’s an entire chain. Acidic chyme(your food mixed with HCL) triggers the release of bile and pancreatic enzymes. Without sufficiently acidic chyme no bile or pancreatic enzymes will be released. It’s a lot more complicated but that’s the basics of it. Betaine supplementation is very important because it sets the stage for every other digestive process.

    Have you tried testing the correct amount of betaine to supplement with yet? (increase by 1 each meal containing protein until you feel a slight burn and decrease by 1 tablet and that’s your dose)

    #117327

    MadEmx
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    Hi Raster,

    I do not drink coffee (gave that up when initially treating the yeast overgrowth and I sooooo miss it) and I never eat fried foods. I think I have the throat coat tea, I will drink that. I take krill oil and I will add more cinnamon to my diet. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond with those tips.

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