Treating Candida with presence of Bipolar Disorder

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    horace1
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    I have been trying to address Candida for several months. i also have bipolar disorder which complicates things. I think I’ve had an overgrowth for about 10 years, and my Candida symptoms have become debilitating (i.e. brain fog, chronic fatigue along w eczema, food sensitivities, joint pain). I’ve tried the Candida diet for a couple months and it alleviated symptoms (brain fog, food sensitivities) but I feel like I’m dying. The fatigue and stress on my mind and body are insane. i’m having nervous breakdowns and having to miss work. I also take probiotics daily, 250mg Molybdenum (though I ran out 2 days ago), 400 mg milk thistle extract/day, 3000 mg Vit C/day, 500 mg B6/day. I also tried Candigone, an antifungal combo, but my die-off symptoms are so severe I miss work from them, so I haven’t completed a round of antifungals. About a month in to the diet I started urinating like every 10 minutes literally. I’m now taking Oxybutynin to decrease urination. A G.I. doc gave me Diflucan and Nystatin and told me if I had a Candida overgrowth it would knock it out. After completing those meds, I cheated the diet with Thanksgiving dinner (cheesy potatoes, cream corn, honey ham), and was immediately hit with painful brain fog. I went back to strict candida diet, but I’m so stressed and run down I cannot function at work. i tried to incorporate just fruit and honey, and i was hit w intense brain fog after a couple days. I’ve encountered a lot of skepticism from medical doctors. They don’t seem to know much about the topic or even how to test for it. I saw a naturopath who knew all about it. But she was very unscientific and put me on a detox drink that affected absorption of meds and made me go manic. I’ve tried detox tea but realized it to affects med absorption. I feel trapped and don’t know how to proceed. On the diet I’m a mess and off the diet I’m a mess. The diet and antifungals seem too extreme. I can’t detox properly. I’m currently taking a FMLA leave from work and I’m waiting to see an infectious disease specialist. Does anyone out there have any insight or experience they can share? I’m beyond desperate. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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    raster
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    You have an especially difficult situation because of the medications. These prevent you from detoxing properly and so a candida treatment will be difficult. And once you are on the drugs its hard to get off them from my experience.

    The antifungal drugs don’t really cure many people from my experience on the forum.

    I recommend trying out the diet again and do it long term and detox by doing sauna/hot tub/jacuzzi/steam room, etc. 5 days aweek. This will give your liver a rest. But once you stop doing it, the symptoms should return because then the your liver overloaded again because of the meds.

    -raster

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    horace1
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    Raster, thank you so much for your reply. It means the world to me just to get feedback from someone who is knowledgable about Candida. In your opinion, what is my best bet for getting over Candida totally? I’ll tell you the rest of my story quickly:

    I actually learned of Candida by way of trying to switch from bipolar meds to an all-natural supplement called Empowerplus. I’ve taken bipolar meds for 11 years, and my quality of life has only decreased with time, so I decided to seek alternative treatments. It was only after beginning the transition to Empowerplus that I was educated about Candida and realized it could explain the majority of my prevailing symptoms I had previously attributed to over-medication (i.e. brain fog, incurable depression). I am currently stuck halfway in the transition process. I’m on half the dose of Empowerplus and half the dose of my psych meds. It was first suspected I had Candida issues when I stopped responding to increases in the Empowerplus (candida interfering with absorption of the micronutrients in Empowerplus).

    So now the primary focus of my struggle for good health has become Candida. I was even considering giving up on the Empowerplus for now, and going back to the full dose of psych meds thinking I’d be better served to focus on Candida first, since it interferes with the absorption of nutrients. In fact, I was gonna start that transition backwards today.

    Do you think my only chance at beating candida totally is by getting off my psych meds? Thanks in advance.

    -horace1

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    raster
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    You should consider trying this out with a different approach. Don’t take as many antifungals and try out SF722 (one capsule per day) to start out. The die off is much more gentle with SF722 because its a fatty acid.

    Then I would try to detox by doing the steam room/sauna thing I mentioned earlier and I wouldn’t take any detox supplements while doing this (or just milk thistle/molybdenum). These can make you feel bad too and are antifungal.

    At a later time I would focus on liver health once off the meds and this should reverse the eczema. People with eczema typically have liver problems because you aren’t detoxing (did this start when you first started taking medications 11 years ago?).

    Also I would go back to the naturopath and maybe think of alternative ways to detox or other ways to get better. Just because something had a bad side effect doesn’t mean you should stop seeing them, they didn’t know that this was gonna happen very likely.

    Also consider doing a less strict diet before getting more strict. Transition into the candida diet instead of doing it full bore. If you do things really quickly it might overload the body. Transition into all of your suppplements at low doses vs. at high doses.

    Consider trying acupuncture which can rebalance your body and help you detox and get over the bad symptoms.

    -raster

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    horace1
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    Thanks again, Raster. My eczema started about 8 years ago and has improved a good deal with probiotics and the candida diet. Is there a particular probiotic you’d recommend? I currently take Renewlife 30 billion with 10 strains. Also, what’s your take on raw apple cider vinegar; do you think I should incorporate it along with the SF722 or no? Funny story: I googled sf722 and found your review on Amazon. Haha. You’re a Godsend, Raster.

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    TheChosenOne
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    Eczema is indeed a detox problem and I think that you should focus on that. Just follow the advice of raster.
    I’d also include some fruits in low amounts, because they are quite important if you want to detox. My opinion is that you should never remove fruits from the candida diet, but I understand that there are others that think differently about it. Apricots might be a good start.
    Try no to combine carbs with protein, because they need different enzymes to be processed.
    Antifungals only suppress the yeast infection somewhat, but they are not a game changer unless you have an accute infection. The antifungal that works best for me is caprylic acid. You can also use extra virgin coconut oil. I wouldn’t recommend probiotics since they are very expensive, but it depends on your budget and the severity of your case.
    I don’t want to start another war on this forum, but bipolar disorder is quite common for people with mercury poisoning. This is also true for depression, anxiety and similar disorders. Mercury impairs your body’s immune system and makes it susceptible for viral infections, yeast overgrowth and even cancer.

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    Sanshou
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    I try to do everything as natural as possible, for kidneys I incorporate more asparagus into my diet, for the liver add in beets every so often as they are sugary. They make a huge difference, I had the same problem with peeing, drink a glass of water and not even 10 minutes later and you are nearly pissing yourself and they helped tremendously. From what I’ve read It’s mostly caused by inflammation, EFA’s like hemp oil, coconut oil etc will help, hemp oil is more easily digested by the body but doesn’t taste as good. I also tend to use a cannabis extract for severe times, as it is an awesome anti-inflammatory among many other things and puts no strain on your liver or kidneys like most traditional medicines. Granted with being bi-polar it may put a lot of the burden on that disease, unless you use a high CBD strain to counter the effects of THC so you don’t feel high.

    Also drink more water, I know it sounds counter productive, but it helps flush out all of the toxins which reduces the strain on your organs. And if your drinking lots of water, try to cut back on tap water or mix it with distilled to cut back on the chlorine and other stuff in the water that may hinder your progress.

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    horace1
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    Thanks everyone for your responses.

    “The Chosen One”, I’m intrigued that you don’t believe in removing fruit from the diet because that is an uncommon view and because the idea of including some fruit is appealing. How far have you gotten in eliminating your candida overgrowth with this approach? Also, could you elaborate on what fruits you ate, how much you ate daily, whether you did any food combining, and at what stages in the diet?

    Thanks very much,
    -Horace1

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    TheChosenOne
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    I did the (strict) candida diet for 1 year and it got me quite far. But it never went away. Because I felt I needed fruits and my candida would never go away, I included them again. This had no influence on the candida at all. I only ate low fructose fruits (mostly apricots and oranges) like once a day. I still had massive brain fog. Then I figured out it was because of mercury toxicity and I ate a lot of sulfur foods (eggs, brocolli, cauliflower).
    I switched my diet again and the brain fog is disappearing. Now I’m chelating to get rid of the mercury with some slightly good results. Because I’m cheating too much on the diet, the candida is back but under control.
    In a few weeks, I’m gonna post a big update on my progress.

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    horace1
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    When you did the strict diet, did you also cut out all grains (all grains including alternative grains: quinoa, buckwheat, etc.)? I know some sources say the root cause of candida is a leaky gut.

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    TheChosenOne
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    Yes. Everything for a few weeks. Basically start with veggies, then eggs, then some white meat. Ofcourse with a detox plan.

    horace1;61027 wrote: I know some sources say the root cause of candida is a leaky gut.

    There are multiple sources of candida. Leaky gut is actually caused by candida.

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