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  • #102742

    Able900
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    Keya;41207 wrote: Megalora Plus DDS-1 strain probiotic – 2 times daily
    Molybdenum Country Life, 150mcg – 2 times daily
    Vitamin C 1000mg – 2-3 times daily
    Biotin 300mcg – 2 times daily
    Milk Thistle 80% sylimarine – 2 times daily
    Extra virgin coconut oil – 7-9 teaspoons daily

    You’re not taking enough Molybdenum; if you’re experiencing die-off, you should be taking more than twice what you’re taking.
    Take 750 mcg a day and see if that helps your symptoms. Does the label read “molybdenum amino acid chelate”?

    It’s not unusual to continue experiencing die-off for up to six months if the infestation is bad enough; and if you’re not feeding the Candida, then you’re definitely killing the Candida considering your daily regimen.

    Continue to raise your coconut oil by one teaspoon every 3 to 4 days when your die-off begins to lessen.

    How many CFU’s (billions) does your Megaflora contain?

    Able

    #102785

    Keya
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    Able900;41245 wrote:
    You’re not taking enough Molybdenum; if you’re experiencing die-off, you should be taking more than twice what you’re taking.
    Take 750 mcg a day and see if that helps your symptoms. Does the label read “molybdenum amino acid chelate”?

    It’s not unusual to continue experiencing die-off for up to six months if the infestation is bad enough; and if you’re not feeding the Candida, then you’re definitely killing the Candida considering your daily regimen.

    Continue to raise your coconut oil by one teaspoon every 3 to 4 days when your die-off begins to lessen.

    How many CFU’s (billions) does your Megaflora contain?

    Able

    I’ll increase then the Molybdenum dose, and yes, it’s amino acid chelate.
    I started taking Molybdenum yesterday and experienced some heavy gas, I hope it’s a good thing.

    Probiotics are 50 billion CFU, I’m taking two daily, I calculated that I can’t take more than that because I can’t afford it, one bottle should last me for a month because I pay almost the double price for it because of the customs costs.

    Thanks so much for yout help Able. Also, do you maybe have some suggestions on which swedish bitters and HCL to order from iHerb?

    #102800

    Mykoza
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    Hey Keya
    try boric acid to see if it helps with your itching and burning. From my own experience, boric acid capsules are more effective than douches. But, go ahead and start with douches. They will help too.

    If you went to your gyno and you used some kind of treatment 1-3 days prior to the examination, the treatment (natural or not) may have masked the yeast or bacteria and your test came back negative as a result. This has actually happened to me several times. I was experiencing itching and burning, but the test always came back negative. After a few weeks, I toughed it up and didn’t use any treatment for about 4-5 days prior the doc’s visit. The test came back positive for bacteria. They gave me Polygynax suppositories (anti-yeast + antibiotic in one. Available in Europe) for 2 weeks and that cleared up the infection.
    Boric acid has the same anti-y and anti-b properties.

    Sorry, I can’t give you much advice on bloating/constip. and rashes. What I know is: They say it’s normal to be bloated on the candida diet because you eat a lot of prebiotics (grains), plus some vegetables create a lot of gas – some people are sensitive to them and react to them by being bloated a lot. My candida book suggests to boil/steam the veggies to ease bloating. Steamed/boiled vegetables are easier to digest. Don’t eat ice berg lettuce or cabbage- they are hard to digest.Cabbage creates bloating. Try Boc Choy and kale istead of cabbage. Eat dark leafy vegetables (dark green , purple lettuce). Focus on boiled cauliflower, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, spinach…If you eat a lot of asparagus, it can make you gain weight. (some people react to it this way).

    Have you tried chicory coffee? You could mix it up with normal coffee in the ratio 50/50 or 15%coffee/75% chicory…

    I hope it helps!

    #102835

    Able900
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    Keya;41288 wrote: Probiotics are 50 billion CFU, I’m taking two daily, I calculated that I can’t take more than that because I can’t afford it…

    Also, do you maybe have some suggestions on which swedish bitters and HCL to order from iHerb?

    I really hate having to write this, Keya, but if you can’t afford to eventually take a higher dose of your probiotics, you’re probably not going to get your infestation under control. Since that’s the case, I’d rather see you leave the bitters and HCL out of your treatment and purchase more probiotics. That is unless your digestion is so bad that you think you can’t go without the HCL.

    It’s very difficult when you have to make a choice between which supplements to purchase and which to leave out, but you’re certainly not the only one to have to do this with their treatment; such is the economy right now.

    You don’t need to raise the dose of probiotics right now, but you really will need to within two to four weeks depending on how long you’ve been on that dose.

    Able

    #102882

    Keya
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    Able – thanks for your honesty and help. I can leave the bitters and HCL out, but my probiotics still cost almost double the regular price (because of the customs taxes), but I’ll try and see what I can do regarding this.

    Mykoza – thanks for your input, now I’m using probiotics down there because they calm me, but I’m planning to try boric acid, hope it helps.

    I’m feeling a little bit better now, first day of using Molybdenum I had awful gases, but I suppose it’s a good sign, and my digestion is better now that I’m taking stronger probiotics, but itching is still present, so we’ll see if it will calm down any time soon.

    #103118

    Keya
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    I’ve been using DDS-1 strain probiotics and Molybdenum for a week now and the only improvement so far is that constipation got a lot better. Also, I didn’t use coconut oil for 3 days because there was a shortage of coconut oils in the whole city! 🙂 I just don’t know how it happened, but they didn’t have the virgin ones anywhere! I hope it didn’t damage my treatment being without it for a couple of days.

    I’m slowly starting to lose my mind and faith in the diet, because whatever I do, there’s no improvement. I know I need to keep going, but it’s so hard when things aren’t going just a little bit towards better. I’m ok with not eating chocolate or whatever if I feel it leads to something, but now everything seems to be leading nowhere for me. I didn’t cheat or anything, but I’m thinking about chocolate cakes more than ever. Also, it’s spring and everybody’s out drinking and planning their summer, and I can’t plan anything and can’t look forward to summer because I know I won’t be cured until then as I was initially planning. Wherever I go, I just feel like I’m alone in everything because nobody can understand what I’m going through. How do you cope with those feelings when you would just give up on everything?

    Thanks to anyone willing to read my depressing thoughts 🙂

    #103119

    Mykoza
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    I am sorry to hear you feel this way. This is not a very happy diet; especially, when you’ve been dealing with this for so long. It definitely wants to make you feel alone and miserable. You have to prevail though! Do not give up the hope just yet. You don’t know how many women who are making plans for summer are suffering from Candida constantly. I know there’s more than you think! They only don’t talk about it. And why can’t you make your own plans for summer? Do you live near the sea? If not, go to the beach this summer. Salt water and the sun are very healing…

    Why don’t you go online and look for a candida discussion forum in Croatia. This forum here is great, but you may feel disconnected from the people who post here because you don’t have access to as many supplements as they do.
    I am SURE there is at least one forum that focuses on Candida. That way you could find out where to buy certain anti-candida supplements, get a good advice, see what you can eat – that’s available in Croatia (your local traditional food), etc. You are not alone suffering from Candida problems in your country.

    Another thing, can you buy Diflucan without the prescription at pharmacies in Croatia? I know that you can buy it in some European countries. One widely available is called MYCOMAX and it’s pretty much 150mg of Fluconazole. One costs about 5 euros. You could probably order it online even. A medical-strength medication would speed up the healing process for you. Take one pill a week.

    Keep it up!!! All will be well again.

    #103297

    Keya
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    Hi Mykoza, thank you for your support! There is a candida subforum in Croatia, but the members are not on as strict diets as I am, and don’t have such severe cases of candida. I can’t buy Diflucan here without prescription, but I’ll go to a doctor who is a specialist for this kind of diseases so I’ll talk to her and ask if she could prescribe it to me.

    #103644

    BlueSkies
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    Keya,

    I would consider getting rid of the herbal tea.

    I’ve been on the diet for quite awhile, and I still can’t have herbal tea. Nettle tea is okay, but anything else flares up my system and make the candida very active.

    I think you’re onto something with indicating that you are having too much meat. Just 2-3 times a week. Eat organic eggs each day. I try not to have more that 4 eggs a day and have a plethora of veggies off of Able and Rastor’s approved foods list, which works really well btw.

    #104057

    Keya
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    BlueSkies, thanks for your advice but I never had a reaction to herbal teas, and I can’t imagine they would do me harm. I’ve switched to eating meat/fish 2-3 times a week 2 and a half months ago.

    #104065

    Mykoza
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    Keya;41800 wrote: Hi Mykoza, thank you for your support! There is a candida subforum in Croatia, but the members are not on as strict diets as I am, and don’t have such severe cases of candida. I can’t buy Diflucan here without prescription, but I’ll go to a doctor who is a specialist for this kind of diseases so I’ll talk to her and ask if she could prescribe it to me.

    Hi Keya
    Did you go to the doctor? Did you get Diflucan? Let us know your progress.

    #104070

    Keya
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    Mykoza;42568 wrote:

    Hi Keya
    Did you go to the doctor? Did you get Diflucan? Let us know your progress.

    Hi! Thanks for your concern 🙂 I went to a doctor who specializes in yeast infections and she said there’s no indication to get me on Diflucan because my latest tests are clean, and that even if my tests weren’t clean she wouldn’t gave it to me because she thinks it wouldn’t help at this stage. On the other hand, she also said I shouldn’t be on this diet because it will weaken me, but when I explained precisely what I’m eating and which supplements I’m taking, she complimented my diet (?!). So all of this only proves that doctors don’t have the slightest idea about candida 😛 She gave me one test for the urethra so I can take it when my symptoms get worse so then we can see if it’s still the candida. I just really don’t know – could it be that my tests are negative because candida has weakened but left me damaged flora in the urethra? And all the itching are just die-off symptoms? But if there’s still die-off every day, it means that candida is still there, because it is dying, but why didn’t it show on the tests then?? I’m soooo confused, and this doctor, although she was very nice and all, didn’t really know anything more than me 😀

    #104071

    Keya
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    Also, my progress so far:

    – DDS-1 strain probiotic really helps me with my digestion and constipation, thanks Able for recommendation!
    – I still have die-off symptoms – mainly itching and burning and occasionally feverish states and a little brain fog; mostly I’m concerned about itching which just won’t go away
    – the fact that I’m constantly tired and depressed I don’t even have to mention :P, but I must confess I’m in a better mood because of the spring and warmer weather
    – I have urine/bladder problems – I handle them with tea, but they are annoying
    – I cheated for my birthday with a slice of chocolate cake 🙁 – it’s my first cheat, and last! (I didn’t experience any strong symptoms after this)
    – I’m missing my period again – the doctor advised me to go check my hormone status, so I’ll get an appointment at endocrinologist
    – I’m thinking of some alternative methods to “back up” this diet as I’m feeling more and more that I have to handle my mind and emotions along with the diet. The diet got me stronger as a person, but there’s a lot more work left. I’m thinking of some kind of “energy” therapies, acupressure or something like that.

    #104103

    Mykoza
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    Keya;42573 wrote: Hi! Thanks for your concern 🙂 I went to a doctor who specializes in yeast infections and she said there’s no indication to get me on Diflucan because my latest tests are clean, and that even if my tests weren’t clean she wouldn’t gave it to me because she thinks it wouldn’t help at this stage. On the other hand, she also said I shouldn’t be on this diet because it will weaken me, but when I explained precisely what I’m eating and which supplements I’m taking, she complimented my diet (?!). So all of this only proves that doctors don’t have the slightest idea about candida 😛 She gave me one test for the urethra so I can take it when my symptoms get worse so then we can see if it’s still the candida. I just really don’t know – could it be that my tests are negative because candida has weakened but left me damaged flora in the urethra? And all the itching are just die-off symptoms? But if there’s still die-off every day, it means that candida is still there, because it is dying, but why didn’t it show on the tests then?? I’m soooo confused, and this doctor, although she was very nice and all, didn’t really know anything more than me 😀

    Hi Keya
    Oh, how I can relate to this! Doctors really don’t know anything. I am sorry you didn’t get the response you were hoping for. I would recommend you go to another doctor for the second opinion…if you have time, do it. You have nothing to lose. And she didn’t give you Diflucan?! Why the hell not? – rhetorical question…Did she give you anything to treat the discomfort you are experiencing??
    Some women have external yeast without any discharge whatsoever. They only experience itching and burning. There are plenty of posts about it on the Internet.
    I am not sure if you already talked about this , but I will ask you anyway. Have you tried a regular cream that treats yeast infections (Canesten and such – sold in Europe)? Apply it to the itchy area to see if it helps…Obviously, you don’t have bacterial infection or she would have found it. It can be either A or B…since it’s not A, then it must be B – yeast…

    Sometimes, tests come out negative if you use some kind of treatment to ease your symptoms. They can “mask” the infection…

    #104178

    West12
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    You might have candida from a malfunction in your digestive system ultimately making the diet useless and in some cases worse. I have problems with my gal bladder and a high fat diet brings on thrush. I can have all the sugar and fruit I want as long as I don’t eat fat because my body is unable to break it down and also comes back from eating things I am allergic to.

    The candida diet suppressed the yeast but ultimately made things much worse and it always came back fast if I cheated. Sometimes taking away or adding in a missing ingredient will cure you.

    Candida is tricky and people under estimate their own immune system. My candid and thrush goes away on a high sugar diet of fruit. That might make things 100X worse for some and cure other.

    I’m not saying everyone has a digestive system issue, just that finding your underlying reason is important if the diet isn’t effective and the thrush is chronic.

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