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  • #85241

    captainamerica
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    Below is what I am currently doing. Just adopted a stricter version of diet. Previous diet did not include any sugar or bread but it had other things such as rice, a potato here and there etc. Now I have ammended to perhaps quinoa for a carb source and just meat, vegetables, and eggs, yogurt, kefir, and almonds.

    In the morning and night I take Candex (2), and Primal Defense Ultra (4).
    I take (1) Nystatin tablet 4x daily.
    At least once a day I swallow one heaping spoonful of minced garlic.

    I know I need to add molybdenum to hopefully not get so winded while lifting weights etc.

    I had mentioned on a previous post that I need to have a safe source of carbs to eat to also aid in the above-listed working out that I do each day. I can’t really go zero carb or my brain, muscles, and everything else wont work so please help regarding that also.

    So as a summary, anyone very knowledgable, please take a quick look at this and give suggestions. It will be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.

    #85257

    Able900
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    In the morning and night I take Candex (2), and Primal Defense Ultra (4).

    You shouldn’t be taking Candex at all.
    As far as Primal Defense is concerned, haven’t you read our post on probiotics?

    I know I need to add molybdenum to hopefully not get so winded while lifting weights etc.

    You shouldn’t be lifting weights “at all.” Walking and light swimming are acceptable exercises which will allow you to continue to rebuild your adrenals and strengthen your immune system. Weight lifting will only hinder this endeavor.

    I had mentioned on a previous post that I need to have a safe source of carbs to eat to also aid in the above-listed working out that I do each day.

    Like I mentioned above, you should not be lifting weights during your treatment period.

    I can’t really go zero carb or my brain, muscles, and everything else wont work so please help regarding that also.

    If you were following the alternate diet, you wouldn’t have to worry about going on zero carbs.

    For some reason I assumed you were following our protocol on the forum, Captain, I guess I was wrong. So where did you get the protocol you’re following?

    Able

    #85274

    captainamerica
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    I for some reason couldnt find an actual post for the alternative diet and then I remembered seeing a post to PM you for it if Im correct. So my current protocol basically is derived from what I was able to ascertain from reading other’s posts. I read such good reviews on Candex and Primal Defense online that I added those myself as I read Primal Defense was of a variety of probiotic that is stronger to take the place of Candida. Any quick input as to why you suggest stopping both would be great as I have a 70 dollar bottle of both currently.

    So as a summary, I had Candida for around 4 years before realizing it, although my symptoms honestly dont sound as bad as some that I have heard on here, perhaps I didnt eat a ton of sugar. I found out I had it in January and began implementing the Nystatin and removed sugar and bread from diet and thats about it. Now in the past two weeks I have gone to what I stated in original post here. Quinoa instead of rice, and just meat, yogurt, eggs, and almonds.

    If you could send me the alternative and strict diet and give any other quick suggestions it is greatly appreciated.
    When I first got on this forum I didnt know how to find everything myself and so I think Ive almost got all the info that I need to start really succeeding.
    Thank you for being the first source that I have had that actually knows something.

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    Able900
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    I read such good reviews on Candex and Primal Defense online that I added those myself as I read Primal Defense was of a variety of probiotic that is stronger to take the place of Candida. Any quick input as to why you suggest stopping both would be great as I have a 70 dollar bottle of both currently.

    Candex contains two enzymes which are not natural to humans and which we do not produce. They’re specifically cellulase and hemicellulase.

    In theory, it makes sense to assume that a supplement containing enzymes such as Candex (and Candidase as well) could treat a Candida infestation because the Candida have a wall which contains cellulose and hemicellulose (note the difference in the spelling of cellulose, cellulase, hemicellulose, and hemicellulase). Therefore in theory enzyme supplements can help kill the Candida by digesting their cell walls. On the other hand these enzymes are not specific to Candida walls; they can also be found in the vegetables we eat. So the enzymes will also break down the cellulose and hemicellulose that is in these foods that we eat on a daily basis. When the fibers in vegetables are broken down, the byproduct of the enzymatic breakdown is sugar in the form of glucose which feeds the Candida infestation. Therefore all the enzymes will do is kill some of the Candida while feeding the remainder leading to an increase of the population of the infestation.
    As far as removing all other supplements is concerned; I suggested this because I believe you need a fresh start meaning to start the stricter diet clean with no supplements for at least three days. The diet is so ‘clean’ that it acts as a very mild cleanse which will be good for expelling the negative toxins as well as the negative enzymes from your body.

    Primal Defense is a soil organism blend of bacteria which contains neither Lactobacillus acidophilus DDS-1 nor human origin probiotics. For these reasons I can’t see it playing a major part in a Candida protocol. However, when it comes time to add a probiotic (according to our protocol) if you wish to continue using the Primal Defense, I can’t imagine that it would do any harm.

    You may want to read the post on we have on Probiotics.

    Check your inbox on the forum for the strict diet.
    Able

    #85308

    captainamerica
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    Makes sense regarding the Candex. Yep, “ase” is the enzyme and “ose” is a sugar. Messing with an enzyme always seemed a little mysterious to me as their reactions are so volatile and you could hear the enzymatic reaction shortly after taking it. Maybe Ill see if I can return it and trade for something more useful.

    Thank you very much for your help Able.

    #85335

    raster
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    An alternative to taking enzymes is to take bitters, which cause your body to produce its own enzymes naturally.

    I do personally take an enzyme product and do think it brings some benefit, but I am no specialist about health and am not going to promote it on this forum.

    My naturopath has been spot on for everything he has prescribed for me, so I will continue with the enzymes for a period of time…

    -raster

    #97149

    ctz
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    If the reason for Candex’s ineffectiveness is the conversion of vegetable cellulose into glucose, one could simply avoid fiber while using it. I’m sure people would be fine eating only vegetable oils, supplements, and other low-fiber/low-carbohydrate foods for a few days. It seems to me that this is a better alternative to things like oregano oil which damage healthy flora as well as the candida. Additionally, I would guess that we would not see candida “adapt” to these enzymes as they do for other antifungals since cellulose is a fundamental component of their cell walls; they can not do without it.

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