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    orka1998
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    I understand the treatment now and how it gets rid of candida in intestines, but what I am wondering how do we get it out of other areas, such as vagina, lungs, sinuses? I’ve seen posts stating that antifungals do their thing on contact in intestines and not through the blood.

    Also, candida in intestines feeds on what we eat, but what does it eat in lungs, sinuses or vagina?

    Sorry, but I was thinking about it for few days and the more I think about it, the more confused I am. If anyone would clarify it, I would be most grateful!

    Arijana

    #77034

    NadjaB
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    I would also like to know that..?
    Maybe it’s because there is moist and warm? It is in such places all common fungal lives. But how candida keeps on living there I don’t know..

    #77042

    orka1998
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    Anyone knows anything about this?

    Thanks.

    Arijana

    #77065

    dvjorge
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    I will explain you what this syndrome is about.
    Candida Related Complex, Polysystemic Candidiasis, Candida Hypersensitivity Syndrome, or just Chronic Candidiasis is a mucosal fungal overgrowth that occur in our mucus membranes where candida normally live as a commensal organism.

    The critical place is the intestines. Why ?? Because in the intestines is where the absorption takes place. When the fungus overgrowth inside the intestines, its metabolites and toxins are absorbed and get the bloodstream causing many symptoms around all the body.

    What controls the yeast in our body is cell-mediated immunity. This is the immune function that keeps the yeast as a commensal resident of our tissues. Also, the bacterial human flora helps to keep the yeast in a non-pathogenic state.

    What happen is the fungal candida inside the intestines release a toxin (mannan) that paralyzes our cell-mediated immunity. It is in the intestines where the biggest fungal concentration is and where mannan can get to the bloodstream.

    Since our cell mediated immunity is paralyzed, there is not defense in our other different mucosal areas such as genitals, lungs, skin, etc. Then, candida overgrowth in those places too causing infection.

    One time the intestinal overgrowth is controlled or eliminated, there won’t be more mannan paralyzing cell-mediated immunity. In other words, you recover your normal immune status and those other candida infectious focus will disappear because your own immune system will clean them.

    By the way, there are a lot of antifungals that act systemic, so they help to eliminate candida focus. The place where the systemic drugs have less efficacy is inside the intestines because there isn’t blood irrigation inside the gut but only in the epithelium.

    This syndrome has also been called by some of the pioneer MDs Candida Related Complex Immune Suppression Syndrome.
    It is all about candida toxins causing a complete cell-mediated immunity immune suppression in the body. On the other hand, this syndrome over-activate Th2 (humoral immune response) creating antibodies to any extracellular antigen such as food, toxins, parasites, extra cellular bacterias, etc. This is what cause the hypersensitivity part of this syndrome.

    I hope this help you,
    Jorge.
    Jorge.

    #77132

    orka1998
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    dvjorge wrote: I will explain you what this syndrome is about.
    Candida Related Complex, Polysystemic Candidiasis, Candida Hypersensitivity Syndrome, or just Chronic Candidiasis is a mucosal fungal overgrowth that occur in our mucus membranes where candida normally live as a commensal organism.

    The critical place is the intestines. Why ?? Because in the intestines is where the absorption takes place. When the fungus overgrowth inside the intestines, its metabolites and toxins are absorbed and get the bloodstream causing many symptoms around all the body.

    What controls the yeast in our body is cell-mediated immunity. This is the immune function that keeps the yeast as a commensal resident of our tissues. Also, the bacterial human flora helps to keep the yeast in a non-pathogenic state.

    What happen is the fungal candida inside the intestines release a toxin (mannan) that paralyzes our cell-mediated immunity. It is in the intestines where the biggest fungal concentration is and where mannan can get to the bloodstream.

    Since our cell mediated immunity is paralyzed, there is not defense in our other different mucosal areas such as genitals, lungs, skin, etc. Then, candida overgrowth in those places too causing infection.

    One time the intestinal overgrowth is controlled or eliminated, there won’t be more mannan paralyzing cell-mediated immunity. In other word, you recover your normal immune status and those other candida infectious focus will disappear because your own immune system will clean them.

    By the way, there are a lot of antifungals that act systemic, so they help to eliminate candida focus. The place where the systemic drugs have less efficacy is inside the intestines because there isn’t blood irrigation inside the gut but only in the epithelium.

    This syndrome has also been called by some of the pioneer MDs Candida Related Complex Immune Suppression Syndrome.
    It is all about candida toxins causing a complete cell-mediated immunity immune suppression in the body. On the other hand, this syndrome over-activate Th2 (humoral immune response) creating antibody to any extracellular antigens such as food, toxins, parasites, extra cellular bacterias, etc. This is what cause the hypersensitivity part of this syndrome.

    I hope this help you,
    Jorge.
    Jorge.

    This does help Jorge! Thank you very much!

    I kept thinking about it and reading, but couldn’t connect the dots. You explained it well. I was kind of worried that I will heal my intestines (that symptom is almost gone) and that these other places (I’m sure I even have it in lungs and sinuses) will stay infected. I also had no idea how to heal those places.

    Even though my intestines seem to be almost healed, I am getting a lot of die-off. Perhaps my immune system is already fighting candida in other places. Most of those symptoms improved a lot already.

    This now makes sense. Heal the gut and the rest will go away when my body is recovered and immunity is in its full blown strength.

    Thanks again!

    Arijana

    #77137

    dvjorge
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    orka1998 wrote:

    I will explain you what this syndrome is about.
    Candida Related Complex, Polysystemic Candidiasis, Candida Hypersensitivity Syndrome, or just Chronic Candidiasis is a mucosal fungal overgrowth that occur in our mucus membranes where candida normally live as a commensal organism.

    The critical place is the intestines. Why ?? Because in the intestines is where the absorption takes place. When the fungus overgrowth inside the intestines, its metabolites and toxins are absorbed and get the bloodstream causing many symptoms around all the body.

    What controls the yeast in our body is cell-mediated immunity. This is the immune function that keeps the yeast as a commensal resident of our tissues. Also, the bacterial human flora helps to keep the yeast in a non-pathogenic state.

    What happen is the fungal candida inside the intestines release a toxin (mannan) that paralyzes our cell-mediated immunity. It is in the intestines where the biggest fungal concentration is and where mannan can get to the bloodstream.

    Since our cell mediated immunity is paralyzed, there is not defense in our other different mucosal areas such as genitals, lungs, skin, etc. Then, candida overgrowth in those places too causing infection.

    One time the intestinal overgrowth is controlled or eliminated, there won’t be more mannan paralyzing cell-mediated immunity. In other word, you recover your normal immune status and those other candida infectious focus will disappear because your own immune system will clean them.

    By the way, there are a lot of antifungals that act systemic, so they help to eliminate candida focus. The place where the systemic drugs have less efficacy is inside the intestines because there isn’t blood irrigation inside the gut but only in the epithelium.

    This syndrome has also been called by some of the pioneer MDs Candida Related Complex Immune Suppression Syndrome.
    It is all about candida toxins causing a complete cell-mediated immunity immune suppression in the body. On the other hand, this syndrome over-activate Th2 (humoral immune response) creating antibody to any extracellular antigens such as food, toxins, parasites, extra cellular bacterias, etc. This is what cause the hypersensitivity part of this syndrome.

    I hope this help you,
    Jorge.
    Jorge.

    This does help Jorge! Thank you very much!

    I kept thinking about it and reading, but couldn’t connect the dots. You explained it well. I was kind of worried that I will heal my intestines (that symptom is almost gone) and that these other places (I’m sure I even have it in lungs and sinuses) will stay infected. I also had no idea how to heal those places.

    Even though my intestines seem to be almost healed, I am getting a lot of die-off. Perhaps my immune system is already fighting candida in other places. Most of those symptoms improved a lot already.

    This now makes sense. Heal the gut and the rest will go away when my body is recovered and immunity is in its full blown strength.

    Thanks again!

    Arijana

    ************************************************************************************
    Yes, keep in mind that if other fungal infectious focus don’t clean with the immune system alone, you have Fluconazole, Itraconazole, and other systemic drugs that work.
    They don’t work now because there isn’t immune system, but when the immune system recovers after eliminating the intestinal overgrowth, fluconazole, itraconazole, etc will work in the same way that they work on those people that take only one pill and are cured.
    You get it now ??
    Jorge.

    #77156

    orka1998
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    dvjorge wrote:

    ************************************************************************************
    Yes, keep in mind that if other fungal infectious focus don’t clean with the immune system alone, you have Fluconazole, Itraconazole, and other systemic drugs that work.
    They don’t work now because there isn’t immune system, but when the immune system recovers after eliminating the intestinal overgrowth, fluconazole, itraconazole, etc will work in the same way that they work on those people that take only one pill and are cured.
    You get it now ??
    Jorge.

    I do get it now, the trick is how do you get your doctor to prescribe it since they don’t really believe in it? My OBGYN might be a little on board, but other doctors just look at me like I am crazy for mentioning it at all. I’m not there yet as I don’t think I’ve healed my gut completely yet. I guess, I will worry about that when the time comes.

    One more question though. How do I know my immune system is strong enough? For instance, my kids and my parents all had a cold but I did not catch it. It’s possible this is due to high vit. C and other supplements I am taking, but is this the same part of the immune system as the one that fights candida? My logic tells me that if I have a low functioning immune system, I would be catching any bug that comes along such as cold or flu.

    Thanks again!

    Arijana

    #77163

    Chris24
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    orka1998 wrote:
    I do get it now, the trick is how do you get your doctor to prescribe it since they don’t really believe in it?

    Vaginal yeast infections are a common occurence and recognized by modern medicine. The common treatment often includes a prescription of diflucan (brand name for fluconazole). So if you say that you have vaginal yeast infection instead of systemic candida albicans, which is not understood yet, then you should get the drugs you want.
    I wouldnt do it myself for the side effects, but if you think it can help you, go for it.

    orka1998 wrote:
    One more question though. How do I know my immune system is strong enough? For instance, my kids and my parents all had a cold but I did not catch it. It’s possible this is due to high vit. C and other supplements I am taking, but is this the same part of the immune system as the one that fights candida? My logic tells me that if I have a low functioning immune system, I would be catching any bug that comes along such as cold or flu.

    Actually, in my years of not dealing with candida at all and making it worse, I never once got sick. Not even a real cold for years. I finally catched a cold and almost a flu when I actually started dealing with candida. Not suprising because the body has to deal with a lot in treating candida.

    #77214

    mellow
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    I would like to add a little something I was just reading which makes all this make sense to me!

    I lifted it form somewhere i can find the link maybe but i´ll have to look.. =P hope its o.k

    LYMPHATIC CONGESTION and the MUCUS CONDITION

    Denatured foods and a toxic environment are placing extreme stress in our bodies. More and more people are experiencing tender lymph glands in the neck, armpits and groin area. This is a sure sign of accumulating toxins. Antibiotics are continually given out freely to an already failing immune system. The lymph must be cleansed and stimulated naturally so that the immune system has an opportunity to rebuild.

    LYMPHATIC SYSTEM
    The lymphatic system is like an ocean within the body. 90% of water in the body is lymph while the rest is blood, intracellular fluid and cerebral-spinal fluid. Lymph is a colorless fluid that travels throughout the body in vessels alongside the arteries and veins of the blood. It is a series of beaded capillaries that flow through ducts and nodes (glands) that collect and circulate the lymphatic waters. Lymph fluid contains salts, electrolytes and nutrients.

    The right lymphatic duct collects lymph from the upper right quarters of the body into the right internal jugular vein. Lymph from the rest of the body is carried by the thoracic duct to the left internal jugular vein.

    Lymph is principally associated with the skin, mucus membranes and glands. It lies just under the various layers of the skin. There is no pump to move the lymph like the heart pumps the blood. Lymph moves by stimulation through movement and exercise, also by the electro-magnetic energy system of the body.

    Blood travels throughout the body, feeding cells with nutrients. It then gathers wastes from the cells and dumps them into the lymphatic system .The lymph then carries the waste products to the “(exit doors)” for toxins, which are the liver, colon, lungs, skin, bladder and kidneys to be eliminated from the body.

    LYMPH NODES
    The lymph flows periodically through small filters called lymph nodes. These nodes are the familiar glands that get swollen and tender when infection is present in the body. Nodes vary from the size of a pinhead to that of a lima bean. There are singular nodes throughout the body but most gather in clusters in the neck, armpits, groins, and across the abdomen and spleen, the normal function of the nodes is to neutralize, and eliminate any poisons, bacteria or infectious microbes that may be present through the assistance of the immune system. The immune “army” gathers its forces in the nodes.

    Edema which is a collection of fluid in the tissues may be caused by a blockage in the lymphatic channels or by their surgical removal. An example of the latter is the swelling of the arm which sometimes occurs after removal of the breast and auxiliary lymph nodes in cases of breast cancer.

    INTESTINAL LYMPH
    The center of the lymphatic system is in the abdomen. Cellular debris from every part of your body washes into this lymphatic ocean in your lower abdomen area. There the colon, whose outer surface is covered with lymph glands collects these wastes and passes them out of the body through the bowels. The lymph in the villi of the small intestine moves the waste out to the lymph of the colon. Congestion of lymph in the small intestine causes poor absorption of nutrients as wastes due to the build up of wastes. The colon’s inner lining is a thin mucus membrane which excretes lymphatic wastes as mucus, and exerts control over all membranes in the body. If the colon is congested with toxins, these toxins will back up into the lymphatic system, stress the immune system, and travel throughout the body.

    BOWEL DISORDERS
    Inflammatory bowel disease such as colitis, diverticulitis, Crohn’s disease and celiac disease, as well as irritable bowel syndrome of spastic colon and chronic diarrhea nearly always occur in conjunction with lymphatic congestion. The lactealducts throughout the intestinal tract, the lymphatic vessels, the lymph nodes and the Peyer’s patches are all involved if the condition becomes inflammatory. Inflamation in the walls of the intestines due to these disorders often cause the lymph fluid itself to become toxic to the entire body, and particularly to the liver.

    MUCUS CONGESTION
    Another part of the lymphatic system involves the mucus membranes. Mucus is a slippery substance secreted from the lymphatic system and synthesized from the sugars, fats and proteins floating in the lymph. A certain amount is needed to lubricate and moisten our body’s inner surfaces. Often excessive mucus is produced as a protective response to irritating toxic wastes and infection. As wastes pile up in the lymphatic system, especially the colon, the respiratory system becomes an extra landfill sites for the colon. Mucus membranes in our lungs, throat and sinuses disgorge the excess mucus. Colds, post nasal drip, sore throats and plugged ears are warnings that mucus congestion is acute in the lymphatics. Asthma, bronchitis and emphysema are a result of efforts to dump excess mucus.

    The liver also attempts to burn excess bodily “trash”, producing fevers, and the spleen creates cysts to store the toxic waste. The mucus eventually moves back into the bloodstream, over stressing the immune system until every part of the body is affected. Excess mucus encourages parasites, candida yeasts, bacteria and viruses to thrive in our colon, and lymphatic ocean and feed on toxic wastes. An accumulation of toxins and a congested lymph can result in gout, arthritis, heart disease, cancer and other degenerative disease. Certain forms of cancer cells spread by feeding on the stagnant and useless fats that clog the lymphatic waterways.

    SPLEEN
    The spleen is largely made up of lymphoid tissue. It is located on the left side of the upper abdominal cavity, below the diaphragm and above the left kidney. It acts much like lymph nodes by filtering the blood. The white cells manufacture lymphocytes and monocytes for the immune system. The red cells act as a blood bank for several hundred mililitres of blood.

    The spleen plays an important role in the destruction of worn out red blood cells. It removes the iron and oxygen from the cells; iron and oxygen are then reused by the bone marrow to make new red blood cells. Another job of the spleen is the production of antibodies for use by the immune system. If the spleen is surgically removed from the body, its functions are taken over by other organs, such as the liver, but with added stress to those organs.

    IMMUNE SYSTEM
    The immune system is basically the thymus system with all the lymphatic tissue in the body, the liver and spleen, the thymus gland itself, the tonsils, the appencix, the Peyer’s patches in the small intestine, and all the lymph nodes and lymphatic channels. The lymph vessels pick up infecting organisms or foreign particles throughout the body and delivers them to the nodes, where defensive agents await them. Here scavenger cells engulf and consume them. Lymphocytes and antibodies are manufactured in the nodes in order to destroy them and prevent these toxins, bacteria and viruses from entering the blood stream.

    ROOT OF THE PROBLEM
    Years of constipation along with excessive mucus build up in the colon are the underlying causes of lymphatic congestion. The colon’s mucus membranes become swollen with thick mucus deposits which swell, stretch and weaken the colon. The resulting distorted shapes causes irritable bowel syndrome and inflammatory bowel disease. Hemorrhoids are a sign of the overloading of oily debris. Diverticulitis is an advanced stage of colon deterioration. As long as the colon is congested, the lymphatic ocean will remain polluted. As long as the colon is congested, the lymphatic ocean will remain polluted.

    ALLERGIES
    As mucus accumulates around the small intestine, it interferes with digestion and assimilation in the gut, and causes simple food allergy. The small intestine has a relationship to the brain. When it is distressed, mental confusion and emotional discomfort can be the result.

    GARBAGE INTAKE
    Take stress off the intestines and lymphatics by reducing “food garbage” intake from the diet. This is the first way of reducing the primary cause of mucus congestion that causes sticky lymph from not moving through its system. Milk and milk products are the primary culprits. Sugar, hydrogenated oils, and refined foods also must be eliminated.

    HERBS
    Some commonly used herbs are Red Clover for the lymph and Echinacea. Goldenseal and Ginseng are good for the immune system. Drinking 4-5 cups of cucumber juice a day for one week will purify the lymphatic system.

    CLEANING HOUSE
    “Cleaning up the pollution” is the solution. Cleanse the colon with flax fiber, and bentonite which is a hardened mucus dissolver. Remove the mucus and debris with several colonics. Stimulate the lymph with exercise, deep abdominal breathing, rebounding, dry skin brushing, abdominal castor oil packs, and herbs. Onion is the “Queen” of the mucus dissolvers. Swedish massage and Manual Lymph Drainage can be helpful.

    DRY SKIN CLEANING
    Use a natural bristle brush with a long handle to brush the skin while dry, before a bath or shower and again before bed. Brush towards the lymph nodes, up the legs, up the arms, towards the heart. Be careful brushing around the breasts . If this is too difficult for you, just brush in a circle motion until the skin is a light pink color. This will feel quite invigorating, and it will stimulate the lymph.

    ” the human body is incredible!”

    #77224

    orka1998
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    Chris24 wrote:
    Vaginal yeast infections are a common occurence and recognized by modern medicine. The common treatment often includes a prescription of diflucan (brand name for fluconazole). So if you say that you have vaginal yeast infection instead of systemic candida albicans, which is not understood yet, then you should get the drugs you want.
    I wouldnt do it myself for the side effects, but if you think it can help you, go for it.

    Guess what? My PAPA test came back today and OBGYN prescribed Macmiror Complex (http://www.polichem.com/jahia/Jahia/home/site/polichem/pid/553/cache/offonce) without me saying anything. I guess this is supposed to take care of that part of infestation. Now, I am worried about die-off kicking in hard with everything else I’m doing and using this.

    Chris24 wrote:
    Actually, in my years of not dealing with candida at all and making it worse, I never once got sick. Not even a real cold for years. I finally catched a cold and almost a flu when I actually started dealing with candida. Not suprising because the body has to deal with a lot in treating candida.

    And guess what again? I think I’m coming down with something 🙁 I had some sore throat as part of die-off, but I don’t think this is die-off as it is there, and in my eyes and nose…

    Thanks for your response and advice.

    Arijana

    #77225

    orka1998
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    mellow wrote: I would like to add a little something I was just reading which makes all this make sense to me!

    I lifted it form somewhere i can find the link maybe but i´ll have to look.. =P hope its o.k

    LYMPHATIC CONGESTION and the MUCUS CONDITION

    Denatured foods and a toxic environment are placing extreme stress in our bodies. More and more people are experiencing tender lymph glands in the neck, armpits and groin area. This is a sure sign of accumulating toxins. Antibiotics are continually given out freely to an already failing immune system. The lymph must be cleansed and stimulated naturally so that the immune system has an opportunity to rebuild.

    LYMPHATIC SYSTEM
    The lymphatic system is like an ocean within the body. 90% of water in the body is lymph while the rest is blood, intracellular fluid and cerebral-spinal fluid. Lymph is a colorless fluid that travels throughout the body in vessels alongside the arteries and veins of the blood. It is a series of beaded capillaries that flow through ducts and nodes (glands) that collect and circulate the lymphatic waters. Lymph fluid contains salts, electrolytes and nutrients.

    The right lymphatic duct collects lymph from the upper right quarters of the body into the right internal jugular vein. Lymph from the rest of the body is carried by the thoracic duct to the left internal jugular vein.

    Lymph is principally associated with the skin, mucus membranes and glands. It lies just under the various layers of the skin. There is no pump to move the lymph like the heart pumps the blood. Lymph moves by stimulation through movement and exercise, also by the electro-magnetic energy system of the body.

    Blood travels throughout the body, feeding cells with nutrients. It then gathers wastes from the cells and dumps them into the lymphatic system .The lymph then carries the waste products to the “(exit doors)” for toxins, which are the liver, colon, lungs, skin, bladder and kidneys to be eliminated from the body.

    LYMPH NODES
    The lymph flows periodically through small filters called lymph nodes. These nodes are the familiar glands that get swollen and tender when infection is present in the body. Nodes vary from the size of a pinhead to that of a lima bean. There are singular nodes throughout the body but most gather in clusters in the neck, armpits, groins, and across the abdomen and spleen, the normal function of the nodes is to neutralize, and eliminate any poisons, bacteria or infectious microbes that may be present through the assistance of the immune system. The immune “army” gathers its forces in the nodes.

    Edema which is a collection of fluid in the tissues may be caused by a blockage in the lymphatic channels or by their surgical removal. An example of the latter is the swelling of the arm which sometimes occurs after removal of the breast and auxiliary lymph nodes in cases of breast cancer.

    INTESTINAL LYMPH
    The center of the lymphatic system is in the abdomen. Cellular debris from every part of your body washes into this lymphatic ocean in your lower abdomen area. There the colon, whose outer surface is covered with lymph glands collects these wastes and passes them out of the body through the bowels. The lymph in the villi of the small intestine moves the waste out to the lymph of the colon. Congestion of lymph in the small intestine causes poor absorption of nutrients as wastes due to the build up of wastes. The colon’s inner lining is a thin mucus membrane which excretes lymphatic wastes as mucus, and exerts control over all membranes in the body. If the colon is congested with toxins, these toxins will back up into the lymphatic system, stress the immune system, and travel throughout the body.

    BOWEL DISORDERS
    Inflammatory bowel disease such as colitis, diverticulitis, Crohn’s disease and celiac disease, as well as irritable bowel syndrome of spastic colon and chronic diarrhea nearly always occur in conjunction with lymphatic congestion. The lactealducts throughout the intestinal tract, the lymphatic vessels, the lymph nodes and the Peyer’s patches are all involved if the condition becomes inflammatory. Inflamation in the walls of the intestines due to these disorders often cause the lymph fluid itself to become toxic to the entire body, and particularly to the liver.

    MUCUS CONGESTION
    Another part of the lymphatic system involves the mucus membranes. Mucus is a slippery substance secreted from the lymphatic system and synthesized from the sugars, fats and proteins floating in the lymph. A certain amount is needed to lubricate and moisten our body’s inner surfaces. Often excessive mucus is produced as a protective response to irritating toxic wastes and infection. As wastes pile up in the lymphatic system, especially the colon, the respiratory system becomes an extra landfill sites for the colon. Mucus membranes in our lungs, throat and sinuses disgorge the excess mucus. Colds, post nasal drip, sore throats and plugged ears are warnings that mucus congestion is acute in the lymphatics. Asthma, bronchitis and emphysema are a result of efforts to dump excess mucus.

    The liver also attempts to burn excess bodily “trash”, producing fevers, and the spleen creates cysts to store the toxic waste. The mucus eventually moves back into the bloodstream, over stressing the immune system until every part of the body is affected. Excess mucus encourages parasites, candida yeasts, bacteria and viruses to thrive in our colon, and lymphatic ocean and feed on toxic wastes. An accumulation of toxins and a congested lymph can result in gout, arthritis, heart disease, cancer and other degenerative disease. Certain forms of cancer cells spread by feeding on the stagnant and useless fats that clog the lymphatic waterways.

    SPLEEN
    The spleen is largely made up of lymphoid tissue. It is located on the left side of the upper abdominal cavity, below the diaphragm and above the left kidney. It acts much like lymph nodes by filtering the blood. The white cells manufacture lymphocytes and monocytes for the immune system. The red cells act as a blood bank for several hundred mililitres of blood.

    The spleen plays an important role in the destruction of worn out red blood cells. It removes the iron and oxygen from the cells; iron and oxygen are then reused by the bone marrow to make new red blood cells. Another job of the spleen is the production of antibodies for use by the immune system. If the spleen is surgically removed from the body, its functions are taken over by other organs, such as the liver, but with added stress to those organs.

    IMMUNE SYSTEM
    The immune system is basically the thymus system with all the lymphatic tissue in the body, the liver and spleen, the thymus gland itself, the tonsils, the appencix, the Peyer’s patches in the small intestine, and all the lymph nodes and lymphatic channels. The lymph vessels pick up infecting organisms or foreign particles throughout the body and delivers them to the nodes, where defensive agents await them. Here scavenger cells engulf and consume them. Lymphocytes and antibodies are manufactured in the nodes in order to destroy them and prevent these toxins, bacteria and viruses from entering the blood stream.

    ROOT OF THE PROBLEM
    Years of constipation along with excessive mucus build up in the colon are the underlying causes of lymphatic congestion. The colon’s mucus membranes become swollen with thick mucus deposits which swell, stretch and weaken the colon. The resulting distorted shapes causes irritable bowel syndrome and inflammatory bowel disease. Hemorrhoids are a sign of the overloading of oily debris. Diverticulitis is an advanced stage of colon deterioration. As long as the colon is congested, the lymphatic ocean will remain polluted. As long as the colon is congested, the lymphatic ocean will remain polluted.

    ALLERGIES
    As mucus accumulates around the small intestine, it interferes with digestion and assimilation in the gut, and causes simple food allergy. The small intestine has a relationship to the brain. When it is distressed, mental confusion and emotional discomfort can be the result.

    GARBAGE INTAKE
    Take stress off the intestines and lymphatics by reducing “food garbage” intake from the diet. This is the first way of reducing the primary cause of mucus congestion that causes sticky lymph from not moving through its system. Milk and milk products are the primary culprits. Sugar, hydrogenated oils, and refined foods also must be eliminated.

    HERBS
    Some commonly used herbs are Red Clover for the lymph and Echinacea. Goldenseal and Ginseng are good for the immune system. Drinking 4-5 cups of cucumber juice a day for one week will purify the lymphatic system.

    CLEANING HOUSE
    “Cleaning up the pollution” is the solution. Cleanse the colon with flax fiber, and bentonite which is a hardened mucus dissolver. Remove the mucus and debris with several colonics. Stimulate the lymph with exercise, deep abdominal breathing, rebounding, dry skin brushing, abdominal castor oil packs, and herbs. Onion is the “Queen” of the mucus dissolvers. Swedish massage and Manual Lymph Drainage can be helpful.

    DRY SKIN CLEANING
    Use a natural bristle brush with a long handle to brush the skin while dry, before a bath or shower and again before bed. Brush towards the lymph nodes, up the legs, up the arms, towards the heart. Be careful brushing around the breasts . If this is too difficult for you, just brush in a circle motion until the skin is a light pink color. This will feel quite invigorating, and it will stimulate the lymph.

    ” the human body is incredible!”

    Thanks mellow. I especially like this last sentence!

    Arijana

    #77235

    dvjorge
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    orka1998 wrote:

    ************************************************************************************
    Yes, keep in mind that if other fungal infectious focus don’t clean with the immune system alone, you have Fluconazole, Itraconazole, and other systemic drugs that work.
    They don’t work now because there isn’t immune system, but when the immune system recovers after eliminating the intestinal overgrowth, fluconazole, itraconazole, etc will work in the same way that they work on those people that take only one pill and are cured.
    You get it now ??
    Jorge.

    I do get it now, the trick is how do you get your doctor to prescribe it since they don’t really believe in it? My OBGYN might be a little on board, but other doctors just look at me like I am crazy for mentioning it at all. I’m not there yet as I don’t think I’ve healed my gut completely yet. I guess, I will worry about that when the time comes.

    One more question though. How do I know my immune system is strong enough? For instance, my kids and my parents all had a cold but I did not catch it. It’s possible this is due to high vit. C and other supplements I am taking, but is this the same part of the immune system as the one that fights candida? My logic tells me that if I have a low functioning immune system, I would be catching any bug that comes along such as cold or flu.

    Thanks again!

    Arijana

    No, it isn’t the same part of the immune system that defend you from candida. The presence of an intestinal fungal overgrowth paralyze Th1 (cell-mediated immunity) which is the defense against candida. At the same time, over-activate Th2 (humoral immune response) which is the antibody formation against non-self part of the body (antigens) This is the reason because we are over-defended against everything that touch our body from the exterior and the reason because candida sufferers react to food, allergens, fumes, etc. It is the cause of Hypersensitivity.
    To resume, candida creates an unbalance where your immune system works toward to Th2 leaving Th1 suppressed and our cells without protection. This is probably the reason because you don’t get flu.
    Jorge.

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    dvjorge wrote:

    No, it isn’t the same part of the immune system that defend you from candida. The presence of an intestinal fungal overgrowth paralyze Th1 (cell-mediated immunity) which is the defense against candida. At the same time, over-activate Th2 (humoral immune response) which is the antibody formation against non-self part of the body (antigens) This is the reason because we are over-defended against everything that touch our body from the exterior and the reason because candida sufferers react to food, allergens, fumes, etc. It is the cause of Hypersensitivity.
    To resume, candida creates an unbalance where your immune system works toward to Th2 leaving Th1 suppressed and our cells without protection. This is probably the reason because you don’t get flu.
    Jorge.

    Thank you Jorge! That makes sense now definitely! I was never that sickly in terms of catching cold or flu. Occasionally yes, but not too much and often I would be the only one in the house that doesn’t get it.

    I guess I would rather catch a flu than candida, but hey, there is not much I could do about it but try to get rid of the little bastards 🙂

    Arijana

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