- May 21, 2012 at 10:19 am #82503
DiaMemberTopics: 2Replies: 0
About a month ago I started a strict diet of no sugars, except xylitol and stevia. I also limited my starchy vegetables, and no dairy, gluten, soy, alcohol, etc. I limited my starches to quinoa, minimal brown rice and millet about 2-3 times a week. I took some colon cleanse supplement, liver support supplement, a probiotic, and began cleansing with diet. About 2 weeks in I felt amazing, was having regular bowel movements, and felt on top of the world.
I started having a Chinese medicine massage called chi nei tsang. It is basically a light massage of the stomach only that is supposed to help getting our chi unstuck in our stomach, intestines, lives, spleen, etc. it was amazing! I did experience some die off from the massage. I had crazy bloating and distended stomach for a day or so after, but it felt like things had really started to move around in my gut and to improve circulation and promote natural healing there.
Uponf recommendation of my doctor and many, I decided the last step of my cleanse should be a colonic, before I started the antifungals. The day of my colonic I began taking d-lenolate or olive leaf extract. I had been previously taking candex, a bunch of enzymes that supposedly help break down the walls of the candida cels. Anyways, what followed has been difficult.
The colonic, my 4th time ever, and not my favorite thing, went seemingly well. However, as soon as I got home, I started to have this intense pain underneath my right rib cage, and my stomach felt really wrong. I just lied on my side and could feel something gurgling and almost draining sensation. My basic knowledge and some experience from doctors and accupuncturists lead me to believe that it was either my liver or my gall bladder working overtime. I was in so much pain that I couldn’t move. So I slept it off, and continued to have extremely loose stools the entire night. I also noticed some white stuff coming out tinged with blood. The next morning I woke up nauscious and vomited.
I went to see my doctor and he said that my liver was probably working overtime and it was hard to tell if it was from the colonic, olive leaf extract, or both.. So he gave me a bunch of liver support vitamins.
Since then, I’ve improved, but not back to 100% of what I was before the colonic. I’m still getting stomach gas, bloating, neck pain, shoulder pain, aching joints, and constipation, and pain and discomfort under my right ribcage, liver/gallbladder area.
So about a week ago I stopped the olive leaf extract. I do have a mild intolerance to olives, and my concern is that it was causing some of my old symptoms of stomach pain, etc…
But my question is, how do I know if my reaction was die off, or allergy related to the olive leaf extract? Intuitively I feel like it was allergy, because of the amount and localization of pain, very similar to pre diet, but then again, I don’t reality know what die off feels like..
Would anyone recommend that I move onto other antifungals? Or maybe do a liver gallbladder cleanse first?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I’m just not sure what to do next as my body is obviously having a hard time processing whatever the colonic stirred up.. So I’m not sure if I should ease off a little until my liver/gallbladder feel back to normal, or if this is just normal die-off?May 25, 2012 at 11:31 pm #83093
DoggiemamaMemberTopics: 43Replies: 204
well i wont be of much help other than..i take Milk Thistle for my liver. it helps to repair it. i would recommend that. it does sound sorta like an allergy to me.
die off is all the symptoms you had prior to starting your diet..but possibly alot worse.May 25, 2012 at 11:37 pm #83094
DoggiemamaMemberTopics: 43Replies: 204
Milk Thistle Extract
One of the questions that we’re most often asked is “How do I cope with Candida Die-Off?” Die-Off can be a combination of headaches, nausea, breakouts and many other symptoms, and unfortunately its the number one reason why people give up their Candida treatment. An herb named Milk Thistle can help, and you can take it all through your treatment.
Your body needs all the support it can get to reduce the effects of Die-Off, and that’s where Milk Thistle comes in. It is a natural supplement that both repairs your liver and protects it from future damage. What happens during Candida Die-Off?
Candida Die-Off (otherwise know as a Herxheimer reaction) occurs when the Candida yeast cells are rapidly killed. This might be due to the probiotics you are taking, or perhaps you started a course of antifungals. Either way, as the yeast cells are killed they release a selection of nasty toxins into your bloodstream. These toxins accumulate in your system faster than your body can remove them, resulting in the usual Die-Off symptoms like headache, fever, muscle pain and brain fog.
When the Candida yeast is killed it can actually release up to 79 different toxins, of which the most important are Ethanol and Acetaldehyde. If your liver can’t act fast enough to remove them, these become responsible for a wide range of Die-Off symptoms.
How does Milk Thistle help?
You can see the importance of a healthy, functioning liver if you want to minimize the effects of Die-Off. That’s why Milk Thistle is such a useful supplement for Candida sufferers. Here’s how Milk Thistle supports your liver.
The active ingredient in Milk Thistle is Silymarin, which is actually a group of phytochemical compounds named flavonolignands. These compounds help your liver in a number of ways.
Firstly, Silymarin stimulates protein synthesis in your liver, helping to repair damaged liver cells and restoring their function. Secondly, it actively protects your liver cells by making changes to the cell membranes. This prevents toxins from entering the cells. And thirdly, Silymarin encourages the growth of new liver cells.
Its important to realize that Milk Thistle is no ‘quack’ cure. It is regularly used for cirrhosis, liver poisoning and viral hepatitis. It’s liver-protecting properties as widely accepted in the medical community.
What is Milk Thistle?
Milk Thistle is a flowering plant, originally from the Mediterranean. It has been used as a liver tonic for at least 2000 years, Other possible (but as yet unproven) medical uses are for reducing the growth rate of cancer cells, lowering cholesterol and reducing insulin resistance in Type 2 Diabetes. There is even some evidence to suggest that Milk Thistle may help you recover from a nasty hangover!November 15, 2012 at 12:30 pm #91788
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