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    Thomas
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    Hi guys,
    I wonder if you guys rotate food and anti-fungals?
    How important is it? Did you do this Able and Raster or did you get healed without doing it? I looked over my food list and intake and tried to combine Rasters 25g rule, a rotation principle and our food allowed list. I must say that this is extremely difficult if not impossible to manage.
    I read that one should separate the food by 4 days. If I today have our coconut bread with avocado and cant eat that then for 4 days I would not know what to eat any more.

    all the best
    Thomas

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    raster
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    I think its pretty important, however I have difficulty implementing the rotation idea also. I guess the main thing I rotate now is buckwheat/oat bran in the morning (every other day and switch between the two) and buckwheat/black rice/red rice for dinner. I also rotate between chicken and lamb for dinner. Thats about as good as I can do it!

    My constant food items I eat daily (don’t rotate):
    1)Greek yogurt and kefir +15 blueberries
    2)Salads
    3)Pumpkin pie muffin bread
    4)Teff/buckwheat/coconut bread
    5)Rice cakes and almond butter (phase 2 item)
    6)eggs

    Green apple 1-2x per week
    Potato 2x per week (phase 2 item)

    Hope this helps Thomas!

    I recommend getting some of those supplements mentioned to heal the leaky gut. I would consider cinnamon pearls for this. Also digestive enzymes are supposedly effective for healing the gut as well!

    As far as rotating antifungals; I sorta have stopped this. I used to take oregano oil and grapefruit seed extract but I don’t really need them anymore it seems like (I am feeling really good). I take garlic capsules for a few weeks and then stop for a few weeks and then take it again. I always take the SF722 every single day.

    One thing you should consider Thomas is to take a certain antifungal for 4-6 weeks. Then start/try another antifungal for the same amount of time, and then go back to the first or even a new antifungal. I wouldn’t do more than 3 different types plus the SF722.

    -Raster

    #69684

    Thomas
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    raster wrote: I think its pretty important, however I have difficulty implementing the rotation idea also. I guess the main thing I rotate now is buckwheat/oat bran in the morning (every other day and switch between the two) and buckwheat/black rice/red rice for dinner. I also rotate between chicken and lamb for dinner. Thats about as good as I can do it!

    My constant food items I eat daily (don’t rotate):
    1)Greek yogurt and kefir +15 blueberries
    2)Salads
    3)Pumpkin pie muffin bread
    4)Teff/buckwheat/coconut bread
    5)Rice cakes and almond butter (phase 2 item)
    6)eggs

    Green apple 1-2x per week
    Potato 2x per week (phase 2 item)

    Hope this helps Thomas!

    I recommend getting some of those supplements mentioned to heal the leaky gut. I would consider cinnamon pearls for this. Also digestive enzymes are supposedly effective for healing the gut as well!

    As far as rotating antifungals; I sorta have stopped this. I used to take oregano oil and grapefruit seed extract but I don’t really need them anymore it seems like (I am feeling really good). I take garlic capsules for a few weeks and then stop for a few weeks and then take it again. I always take the SF722 every single day.

    One thing you should consider Thomas is to take a certain antifungal for 4-6 weeks. Then start/try another antifungal for the same amount of time, and then go back to the first or even a new antifungal. I wouldn’t do more than 3 different types plus the SF722.

    -Raster

    Hi Raster,

    thank you for your post.

    Which of the supplements for healing a leaky gut you advice me to take and which work together with our protocol? You wrote about cinnamon pearls are there more we can take in phase 1 in our diet?

    thank you
    Thomas

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    Able900
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    Thomas wrote: Hi guys, I wonder if you guys rotate food and anti-fungals?

    Personally I never rotated any of the food that I ate. Probably because during my treatment I deliberately ate a minimum number of different foods. Mainly green vegetables and eggs, both every day. Same goes for coconut bread, and yogurt/kefir, again, every day. I figured the fewer types of foods I ate, the less chance of a reaction to a food item. Maybe that’s why I never received many reactions – other than very early on when I tried to introduce new foods too soon.
    I’m sure that I made greater progress after I cut meat and eventually chicken and fish out of my diet.
    I’m not saying that a person can’t cure Candida without avoiding animal protein, only that I was in a hurry to get the infestation out of my body and I believed it would speed things along.

    Someone will probably ask if these same foods eaten over and over everyday ever became tiresome. The answer to that would be no. I just looked forward to having food, as long as it filled me up it was fine.

    I did however rotate antifungals a bit, but not very often. I only used grapefruit seed extract in the beginning, and then oil of oregano, coconut oil, and garlic, so there wasn’t a lot to rotate as I assumed I needed all of these as often as possible, as least until all symptoms had basically disappeared.

    I still believe that no matter how long I would have kept this up, I would never have reached a cure with only the diet and antifungals. I’m convinced that it was the high doses of probiotics plus homemade kefir which eventually brought about a complete cure.

    Able

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    Thomas
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    Able900 wrote:

    Hi guys, I wonder if you guys rotate food and anti-fungals?

    Personally I never rotated any of the food that I ate. Probably because during my treatment I deliberately ate a minimum number of different foods. Mainly green vegetables and eggs, both every day. Same goes for coconut bread, and yogurt/kefir, again, every day. I figured the fewer types of foods I ate, the less chance of a reaction to a food item. Maybe that’s why I never received many reactions – other than very early on when I tried to introduce new foods too soon.
    I’m sure that I made greater progress after I cut meat and eventually chicken and fish out of my diet.
    I’m not saying that a person can’t cure Candida without avoiding animal protein, only that I was in a hurry to get the infestation out of my body and I believed it would speed things along.

    Someone will probably ask if these same foods eaten over and over everyday ever became tiresome. The answer to that would be no. I just looked forward to having food, as long as it filled me up it was fine.

    I did however rotate antifungals a bit, but not very often. I only used grapefruit seed extract in the beginning, and then oil of oregano, coconut oil, and garlic, so there wasn’t a lot to rotate as I assumed I needed all of these as often as possible, as least until all symptoms had basically disappeared.

    I still believe that no matter how long I would have kept this up, I would never have reached a cure with only the diet and antifungals. I’m convinced that it was the high doses of probiotics plus homemade kefir which eventually brought about a complete cure.

    Able

    Very interesting. I too have no problem eating the same food over and over but I am afraid that these too would turn into allergic reaction. That is what some people say. In your case it didn’t turn out so, which is quite good news to me. I am not able either to rotate much. I don’t have the change now to make my own kefir but I have Russian kefir from the shop. I hope that is good too. I too want to start my own but its very difficult here in Sweden to get it done. Have to find someone who sells it to me.

    cheers
    Thomas

    #69699

    dvjorge
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    Able900 wrote:

    Hi guys, I wonder if you guys rotate food and anti-fungals?

    Personally I never rotated any of the food that I ate. Probably because during my treatment I deliberately ate a minimum number of different foods. Mainly green vegetables and eggs, both every day. Same goes for coconut bread, and yogurt/kefir, again, every day. I figured the fewer types of foods I ate, the less chance of a reaction to a food item. Maybe that’s why I never received many reactions – other than very early on when I tried to introduce new foods too soon.
    I’m sure that I made greater progress after I cut meat and eventually chicken and fish out of my diet.
    I’m not saying that a person can’t cure Candida without avoiding animal protein, only that I was in a hurry to get the infestation out of my body and I believed it would speed things along.

    Someone will probably ask if these same foods eaten over and over everyday ever became tiresome. The answer to that would be no. I just looked forward to having food, as long as it filled me up it was fine.

    I did however rotate antifungals a bit, but not very often. I only used grapefruit seed extract in the beginning, and then oil of oregano, coconut oil, and garlic, so there wasn’t a lot to rotate as I assumed I needed all of these as often as possible, as least until all symptoms had basically disappeared.

    I still believe that no matter how long I would have kept this up, I would never have reached a cure with only the diet and antifungals. I’m convinced that it was the high doses of probiotics plus homemade kefir which eventually brought about a complete cure.

    Able

    How many cups of Kefir did you use a day ?? How many of yogurt ?? Did you alternate ??
    Thanks.

    #69713

    Thomas
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    dvjorge wrote:

    Hi guys, I wonder if you guys rotate food and anti-fungals?

    Personally I never rotated any of the food that I ate. Probably because during my treatment I deliberately ate a minimum number of different foods. Mainly green vegetables and eggs, both every day. Same goes for coconut bread, and yogurt/kefir, again, every day. I figured the fewer types of foods I ate, the less chance of a reaction to a food item. Maybe that’s why I never received many reactions – other than very early on when I tried to introduce new foods too soon.
    I’m sure that I made greater progress after I cut meat and eventually chicken and fish out of my diet.
    I’m not saying that a person can’t cure Candida without avoiding animal protein, only that I was in a hurry to get the infestation out of my body and I believed it would speed things along.

    Someone will probably ask if these same foods eaten over and over everyday ever became tiresome. The answer to that would be no. I just looked forward to having food, as long as it filled me up it was fine.

    I did however rotate antifungals a bit, but not very often. I only used grapefruit seed extract in the beginning, and then oil of oregano, coconut oil, and garlic, so there wasn’t a lot to rotate as I assumed I needed all of these as often as possible, as least until all symptoms had basically disappeared.

    I still believe that no matter how long I would have kept this up, I would never have reached a cure with only the diet and antifungals. I’m convinced that it was the high doses of probiotics plus homemade kefir which eventually brought about a complete cure.

    Able

    How many cups of Kefir did you use a day ?? How many of yogurt ?? Did you alternate ??
    Thanks.

    About 600 g Kefir over the day and 2 to 4 Tablespoons organic greek yogurt. I am not changing anything and keep to them.

    yours
    Thomas

    #69753

    Able900
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    I usually had two glasses or around 12 oz of kefir a day and two bowls of Greek yogurt during the treatment. I still have two bowls of Greek yogurt a day, and perhaps 5 oz of kefir.

    Able

    #69767

    dvjorge
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    Thomas wrote: Hi guys,
    I wonder if you guys rotate food and anti-fungals?
    How important is it? Did you do this Able and Raster or did you get healed without doing it? I looked over my food list and intake and tried to combine Rasters 25g rule, a rotation principle and our food allowed list. I must say that this is extremely difficult if not impossible to manage.
    I read that one should separate the food by 4 days. If I today have our coconut bread with avocado and cant eat that then for 4 days I would not know what to eat any more.

    all the best
    Thomas

    Hi Thomas,

    I couldn’t respond your PM because your inbox was full and didn’t accept more message.
    Jorge.

    #69772

    Thomas
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    dvjorge wrote:

    Hi guys,
    I wonder if you guys rotate food and anti-fungals?
    How important is it? Did you do this Able and Raster or did you get healed without doing it? I looked over my food list and intake and tried to combine Rasters 25g rule, a rotation principle and our food allowed list. I must say that this is extremely difficult if not impossible to manage.
    I read that one should separate the food by 4 days. If I today have our coconut bread with avocado and cant eat that then for 4 days I would not know what to eat any more.

    all the best
    Thomas

    Hi Thomas,

    I couldn’t respond your PM because your inbox was full and didn’t accept more message.
    Jorge.

    strange, I have only very few, I am checking on that!
    cheers
    thomas

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