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    I’ve been doing “candida cleanse” supplements pau d’arco, caprylic acid, oregano, garlic, selenium, zinc, and enzymes(1x daily) since mid-Dec. In addition I’m taking additional
    *food enzymes

    *liver balance (bupleurum root, peony root without bark, typhonium rhizome, cinnamon twig, dang gui root, fushen sclerotium with root, scute root, zhishi fruit, atractylodes rhizome, ginseng root, ginger rhizome and licorice root)

    *spleen activator (Ginseng root, astragalus root, atractylodes rhizome, hoelen sclerotium, dioscorea rhizome, lotus seed, chaenomeles fruit, citrus peel, galangal rhizome, ginger rhizome, hyacinth bean, licorice root, magnolia bark, tang-kuei root, typhonium rhizome, cardamon fruit and zanthoxylum hull of seed.)

    *Lung Support (as my lungs have been feeling very heavy for the last couple of weeks – having had pneumonia several times in my life and having black spots that show up on xrays though no active disease)Its primary herbs—anemarrhena, aster, bupleurum and astragalus—have been used in Traditional Chinese Medicine to boost the immune system, build energy and support the respiratory system.

    *adrenal support
    *thyroid support
    *magnesium 650mg
    *Mineral Balance
    *8000iu (I’m very low)

    I have been told for 14 years that I have auto immune disorders likely MS or Lupus. Within 3 days of having my child I developed chronic pain in every single joint in my body, fatigue, memory issues, muscle weakness, my eye sight went from a perfect 20/15 a year ago to 20/200 this year, even my opthamalogist remarked on it. I don’t have all the markers for full diagnosis on any of the auto-immune disorders so they’ve kept me in a gray unknown area. I have been gluten free for 11yrs, but have very high inflammation so my leaky gut obviously has never healed. I did an elimination diet 3yrs ago for 6 weeks and found out I was also reactive to eggs. Recently I developed an anaphlactic reaction to paprika and romain lettuce started giving me sever headaches and naseua. I had allergy panels ran and had absolutely no allergies show up. Yes, frustrating.

    Having recently read about candida symptoms and having checked off a majority of them, there was no question that this applied to me so I ordered the 14 day cleanse. I started taking the supplements as recommended (3x daily) and within just a few days the pain that I’d had for 14yrs was (and still is) gone! However, I started waking up at 4am with a racing heart, (150+bpm) severe nightmares, and was having a very bizarre feeling in my muscles as if threads of fiber were being pulled from the outside in…my thought is this was the body pulling the candida out of the muscles and into the blood stream to be processed out. Due to the nightmares I added in the liver balance and spleen activator and cut the supplements down to 1x a day. Without realizing how intense I needed to be on the diet I was eatting an apple a day and doing a protein shake for breakfast which has sugar cane 3g in it until this week.

    Doing more research I realized that I needed to make these additional tweaks to my diet, so my diet is very strict now and I’ve continued taking the supplements 1x a day (total 1 month now). I have had constipation since removing the apple so I did add in the extra magnesium to help. I had someone mention to me yesterday that I likely have parasites since I was waking up in the middle of the night with the nightmares. This would make sense as I had giardia as a child when our city water got contaminated and I doubt that they treated it correctly all those years ago.

    I finished the candida cleanse supplements today and don’t know if I should start another round of them right away now that I have the diet down and do it correctly for another 14 days or if thats too much? Or if I should stick with the diet and just the probiotics,enzymens, minerals, liver/spleen/lung supplements?

    Not having first hand insight on this I don’t want to make the infestation worse as I’ve obviously had it for years with some pretty harsh symptoms but I also don’t want to take it too far in the other direction either. I do have some muscle cramping going on today, which leads me to think that I might need to take a break from all the anti-fungals? Or it might be dehydration (but I’ve drank 94oz of filtered water today (7.0).

    Sorry for the long note, but thought it would be best to give more details upfront and hopefully someone would be familiar with what I’m experiencing.



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    Hello Winaker,

    Check out this symptom list:

    I highly recommend consulting a naturopathic doctor who can help you heal each and every organ properly and effectively. You might have more complex issues than what we can provide in a “treatment plan.”

    If you have leaky gut, this is good indication you have candida. The thing is about candida and parasites is that we all have them, but at different levels. So you definitely have them in your body…its whether or not they have overgrown and caused you health problems.

    I also had a bad reaction to paprika when I had leaky gut, so its a common one from my experience.

    It sounds like you are experiencing die-off at one degree or another since doing your candida cleanse, and protecting your kidneys and liver is very important. You will need the proper supplements to do this, otherwise you will feel like crap.

    We have a strict forum food list that most forum members follow, its a pretty good one to start out with if you are looking for guidance.

    Please list your diet if possible.

    We also developed this general plan to get better:



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    Thanks Raster,
    I’ll go over the protocol tomorrow in detail, every little bit of insight helps!

    I’ve actually seen 2 ND’s over the past 4 years (along almost 30 specialists) none of them have suggested candida. Believe it or not, 1 of the ND’s even specializes in gluten intolerance and leaky gut, but never mentioned candida even knowing all my symptoms. smh. The allergist that I saw in Dec laughed when all my allergy tests came back negative and said that I just have “one of those bodies” and there was nothing more that she could suggest. I started keeping a food diary so it was easy to find any new signs.

    When I first looked into the cleanse I thought that it was going to be a little more straight forward based on the directions on the box, so I started without doing ALL my research first. Not like me to do that, definitely a lesson learned! Once I started I didn’t want to stop taking the supplements and make things a bigger mess for myself so I stuck with them and made adjustments after I came across this site. I’m going to call around on Monday and see if I can find an ND that works with this regularly.

    Fortunately once I cut the apple and protein shake out my diet its now vegetables (kale, broccoli, onions, garlic, bell peppers, brussel sprouts) with romain lettuce and either Organic chicken, ground turkey, steak, or salmon (wild sockeye) we only use coconut oil for cooking and I do spritz olive oil on veggies after they’ve been broiled. I’ve only had quinoa once as I’m trying to even stay away from all grains just for awhile. I juice veggies or have pecans, walnuts or pumpkin seeds for snacks. So it’s really pretty basic right now. Albeit I did see some good breakfast recipes on here that will be a welcome addition.

    Thanks again for the info! It’s good to have insight from others so you don’t feel like your lost in the dark.


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    When I started having die-off and started the strict diet and protocol, I had nightmares for about a week. I rarely have them normally, so this was definitely unusual, but they went away after the first week, maybe two.


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    Thanks alexalgebra I wasn’t certain if it was die off, parasites, or over stimulation of the brain from everything I am doing so suddenly. They were horrible and so vivid…never experienced anything like it before. Good to know others have had this experience.


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    Dear Winaker – I am new to the detox and was wondering where you ordered the 14 day cleanse and what you took?


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    I’m doing this candida cleanse http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/product/candida-clear-14-day/sku-958.aspx I’ve also been taking the probotic eleven and the food enzymes that they offer. They also have a para cleanse and a clean start. Had I done a little more research before I jumped into it, I probably would have done the clean start first and then did the candida clear. That being said, I personally feel better now than I have in years and I’m glad that even though I’ve stumbled through it that I’ve stuck with it.

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