- April 27, 2013 at 4:51 pm #103659
I had OCD already before all those candida symptoms began. Just not as bad as now.
So I could not tell if it is related or not. I have read that OCD can be a candida symptom though.
Right now I’m really suffering under OCD, it takes up quite some time of my day and it seems to be getting worse. But a lot of symptoms got worse since I started to do a 100% diet.
I used to do candida diet, but eat brown rice or drink a glass of wine etc. Now I do the 100%
My question is this:
Do You guys think OCD is always a candida symptom, meaning will it go away by itself with the candida?
Or do I have to do something else about it?
Has somebody experience in treating OCD?
How did You do it?April 27, 2013 at 6:28 pm #103672
CheeseyMemberTopics: 37Replies: 245
I don’t think candida has any symptoms that are unique. Moreover, OCD and anxiety can be caused by a number of different things. This is a post I wrote on a forum I’ve been frequenting for a long while:
It’s complex and not completely understood. There are probably a number of factors that can play a role:
When an individual, or indeed any living organism, is subject to environmental stressors it affects their health. For instance a plant that is subjected to temperatures lower than it had evolved to survive might have its growth affected. In that same way, a human being subjected to, for instance, environmental toxins or poor nutrition may function at a suboptimal level and thus anxiety may result. Moreover, an environmental issue may include the social situation a person currently finds themselves in. For instance, if a person is having problems within their family it is likely to affect their outlook and stress levels.
Environment can have both short- and long-term ramifications on physiological process. For instance, in the short term, being in a stressful environment might trigger the sympathetic nervous system (SNS), thus affecting your endocrine system and producing the physiological anxiety symptoms such as a racing heart, sweaty palms or upset stomach that we all love so well.
A long-term impact may exhibit different effects. Not only could the SNS become overreactive, but if you, for instance, grow up around an anxious parent, their behaviour might produce neural networks (habits, shall we say) that establish themselves over the long-term and thus begin to dictate your behaviour. This might exhibit itself in a desire to control or a fear of dying.
As you can see, the environment can play a huge role in the development of anxiety. Not only is it an excellent idea to eat well and exercise regularly in order to minimise exposure to environmental toxins (stress hormones included), it may also be beneficial to seek therapy in order to gain a greater understanding of the environmental causes of your anxiety issues so that you can better understand them and affect change. Fortunately, environmental effects can be ameliorated to a fairly significant extent. The SNS can be calmed and neural networks can be rewritten in a process scientists refer to as neuroplasticity (i.e. an understanding that the brain is not fixed, rather it is changeable).
2. Genetic/biological predisposition
They say that a genetic predisposition can also contribute to anxiety, though as far a I am aware no such gene has yet been identified. However, genes are fairly likely to have an impact. For instance, as all humans are fairly different, we produce neurotransmitters in different quantities. Some people may inherit a biochemical makeup that when in homeostasis produces low levels of serotonin as compared to others.
Moreover, in some cases of traditional OCD (as opposed to that found in, i theorise, intrusive thoughts or health anxiety) an area of the brain that deals with habit called the basal ganglia might be affected. In individuals with this issue they often find that even when they have completed a task, the area of the brain that signals to them satisfactory completion does not work properly. This may lead them to feel they haven’t properly fulfilled the task.
Scientists are not sure why this might occur in some individuals. There a theories such as it may be inherited or that it could come from infection by (I think) Strep as a young child. However, it could also be the result of a psychological stressor.
As you can see, there can be multiple causes of anxiety. It is important to understand its causes, and particularly those causes that might be affecting you, so that you might be able to most effectively use treatment methods to lead a happy, healthy life.
Regarding candida and OCD, I think it’s important to realise that it could be a significant contributing factor. However, to say that there is a single cause of your issues is unlikely. Often the factors I talk about above are closely interlinked in one way or another. Likely your OCD is currently exacerbated due to the presence of physical environmental stressors (i.e. toxins) and also the mental strain that a candida diet causes.
I think that a lot can be done to alleviate OCD with a candida diet. I did not suffer from the traditional OCD that I believe you are referring to (i.e. that whereby you perform overt rituals). However, I suffered from the intrusive thoughts sometimes known as ‘Pure-O’. My personal opinion is that there are likely different causes of these variants of OCD, however I have never come across anything that suggests this to be the case so we can probably assume that they are slightly different manifestations of the same thing (whatever that may be).
Recently my OCD has decreased dramatically. I think there are a number of reasons for this:
1. I think the candida is decreasing (thus physiological stressors).
2. I am taking a very high dose of Omega-3 fish oil. You need to find one with high concentrations of EPA and DHA. I take Now foods Omega-3 that contains 0.5 grams EPA and 0.25 grams DHA per 1 gram capsule. I take two per day and have been for the past 3 months.
3. I meditate daily. I find mindfulness meditation to be very effective in coming to terms with anxiety. Mindfulness meditation should not be used as a tool to reduce anxiety, however this is often a byproduct.
4. I took Ashwagandha for a while which I found extremely effective. However I had a very uncommon side effect in that it stimulated rather than calmed my system after continued use. This is an uncommon side effect and stopped when i discontinued the supplement.
5. I use CBT methods I learned in counselling to properly address unhelpful thinking patterns. If you have not had CBT I highly recommend it.
6. I get acupuncture which I think is as beneficial for the talking therapy as it is the actual acupuncture. Perhaps if you have already had CBT in the past, it might be beneficial to seek talking therapy.
7. My personal life became less stressful through both design and chance.
To summarise, I think you need to take a multi-faceted approach to treating OCD. I think a candida diet can be certainly beneficial and perhaps integral for some people affected in ultimately overcoming their problems. However, I don’t think, in the more severe cases certainly, that the eradication of candida will cure a mind that has been addled for years by the fears associated with OCD. To treat OCD you need to address mind, body and soul in unison.April 27, 2013 at 7:23 pm #103674
RuffianParticipantTopics: 9Replies: 72
My son has OCD and when he developed some acne I put him on a low carb/low sugar diet along with mild antifungals. His OCD got so, so much better. It’s almost non-existent. He still has mild test anxiety and certain night rituals, but NOTHING like it used to be. I think there is a link.April 28, 2013 at 8:54 pm #103725
thank You so much for Your insightful response.
I have thought about it and think that “fear” is basically what is at the bottom of this.
If You suffer from intrusive thoughts or You have to fulfill certain rituals or both.
Fear is what drives it.
In my case I can see that a childhood with toxic parents and some traumatic experiences followed by drug abuse etc. could have caused enough potential to develop OCD.
It actually became really bad during an Interferon treatment for Hepatitis C.
This also destroyed my immune system and left me receptive for systemic candida.
Thinking about it, it all makes perfect sense.
Yes, I will definitely take an approach that covers more than diet.
Thank You for Your suggestions.
I forgot to ask what is CBT? Thank You.April 28, 2013 at 9:02 pm #103726
I’m so happy Your son improved with the diet.
In my case the worsening of most of my symptoms is something I see as a positive as well.
Of course it will have to get better at some point.
But I’m really glad that my body and mind reacts to the diet at all.
Before I have never been a 100% with my candida diet.
Now I have a reaction to the diet. It has to get worse before it gets better I guess.
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