- May 3, 2012 at 2:11 am #80718
I’m in week 12 of the strict diet now. In two week’s time I will go to a remote place in the alps until the end of the summer and don’t know how often I’ll be able to read the forum. I’d therefore like to revise my diet/treatment and get some advice if I have to change something, also because I need to organize all the special food I need for the summer and send it up there (by a ropeway for material transport). Another reason is because I have the feeling of not progressing with the treatment. After a lot of symptoms (gastrointestinal and skin issues) improved during the first month of my diet, nothing has changed anymore in the last two months – I didn’t get worse apart from the hair loss I got and from not getting my menstruation anymore, but I also didn’t get better. My main symptom, extreme fatigue, did not get better at all. I’m wondering if it is a Candida symptom at all, or if my Candida infestation only evolved because my immune system was weakened by CFS or whatever you want to call what I have, or if I’m just being too impatient and need to give it more time. Other symptoms that did not improve are muscle tightness, dry eyes and skin, poor memory and brain fog, itching scalp, and an overall feverish feeling, especially in the morning. I’d be happy for any advice on how to improve my treatment.
Breakfast: “Quark” (something like Greek yoghurt) with oat bran stirred in the quark, or buckwheat bread. (The quark I use is organic raw milk quark fermented with real live cultures from a health food store, with a sour taste and claiming to have a lot of L+ lactic acid.)
Lunch: Usually salad with some raw allowed vegetables and eggs, sometimes left-over veggies/buckwheat from dinner the day before, or salad with buckwheat bread
Dinner: Big bowl of steamed green vegetables with or without eggs / with or without buckwheat depending on what I had for lunch. Fish or chicken about once a week.
Things that I’m eating with these foods or as snacks include: buckwheat cornflakes (taken with coconut oil), olive oil, ghee, apple cider vinegar, coconut flakes, tahin, kefir, lemon, mustard made with ACV, sea salt, herbs and spices, sometimes coconut bread (can tolerate it now). All food items are usually organic. I had a little bit of tiger nuts for a while, but stopped it even though I had no reaction, better safe than sorry.
I’m still using kefir from a starter kit but that will change soon.
Supplements that I’m taking:
– Silymarin 3 x 300 mg a day
– Vermouth or wormwood (not sure since the dictionary gives me both translations) extract after meals for bitter receptors
– Vitamin C
– Omega-3 capsules
– Molybdenum 150 mcg / day
– Acacia fiber
– a trace mineral supplement
I’m planning to take and have ordered glutathion and biotin.
– 5 teaspoons of coconut oil / day (I can’t take much more than that, I struggle so much to get it down)
– Oregano oil / red thyme oil / clove oil (7 drops a day) which I’ve been alternating every two weeks. plus a few capsules of olive leaf extract (just recently, to use it up since I bought it before I joined the forum) and occasionally raw garlic, planning to take SF-722 as well.
Able, are there things I should change in my treatment? Do you think my fatigue and other symptoms just need more time to improve, or am I doing something wrong? I’d be happy to optimize my treatment and get your advice, especially since I’m going to live in the mountains and need to plan in advance. Is the probiotic that I’m going to take (Dr. Mercola) fine? It has not been shipped on ice.
Thanks so much in advance!
ChloëMay 3, 2012 at 3:12 am #80726
Chris24MemberTopics: 12Replies: 329
I see you are doing everything you can with physical treatment (except enema’s), but what about the cause of this whole thing, have you looked into that at all? I have read that you had chronic fatigue before candida, is this a pointer to underlying causes of your health problems?May 3, 2012 at 5:40 am #80739
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Chlofloso wrote: Other symptoms that did not improve are muscle tightness, dry eyes and skin, poor memory and brain fog, itching scalp, and an overall feverish feeling, especially in the morning. I’d be happy for any advice on how to improve my treatment.
I got the yoghurt out my diet when I switched to the strict forum diet and every time I tried to introduce it back into my diet (three times already) dry eyes/skin, and few other symptoms would return. The quark sounds good, but it is commercially produced so you don’t really know what’s in it for sure. You could try to kick that one out for about a week and see if these symptoms are getting any better. You will have kefir in few weeks and that is much more beneficial to your treatment in terms of probiotic and will give you some good nutrition as well.
My muscle tightness seemed to somehow connect to molybdenum as I was taking it more than a month. Are you still having heavy die-off? If not, you can probably stop taking the molybdenum. I think it’s meant just to help at the beginning of the treatment when lots of yeast is being killed, but not for two-three month period.
I must say that some of my fatigue lifted after I started taking enough salt. Sometimes we think symptoms are die-off or candida related and might be a missing piece of the puzzle in our nutrition plan. Check that you are taking in what you are supposed to.
I will let experts answer on other issues. This was just my experience so far.
ArijanaMay 3, 2012 at 6:08 am #80742
Able900SpectatorTopics: 92Replies: 4814
muscle tightness, poor memory and brain fog, and an overall feverish feeling
These sound too much like die-off symptoms not to be, especially considering the antifungals you’re taking with such a small dose of molybdenum. If you continue to use the 150 mcg pills, take 2 pills the day you read this and increase by one pill each day until you reach 5 pills a day. Remain at that amount until the symptoms I named above have lessened to the point of no longer being a problem. A week after they’ve lessened, start reducing the amount by one pill every three days. If symptoms return, increase the amount again.
I would expect some positive change in symptoms after this, but please keep us posted.
AbleMay 3, 2012 at 7:53 am #80751
I actually was taking molybdenum 750 mcg for five weeks, and when my hair loss started, started to lower the dose in order to see if it has got anything to do with the molybdenum, since I thought I might not have enough copper. A lack of copper results in symptoms similar to a lack of iron, and I have hair loss and do not get my menstruation anymore. I had these symptoms when I was on the high dose of molybdenum as well, and don’t think they are die-off symptoms. My die-off symptoms were always very immediate and always the same: nausea, headache, stomach ache, and back ache. I never have any of these now unless I take an overdose of antifungals. I’ll slowly increase molybdenum again as soon as I have the results from my doctor, I got tested for copper. If it is ok, I can increase molybdenum again, but I seriously don’t think that these symptoms will get better. I’ve had poor memory, brain fog and a feverish feeling since two years, it’s not like they just hit in suddenly now that I’ve lowered the molybdenum.
Do you have any other suggestions regarding my diet?
ChloeMay 3, 2012 at 8:15 am #80757
I was actually planning to eliminate the quark from my diet once I have real kefir. I guess I could do that now already, and eat more buckwheat bread and eggs for breakfast instead. I don’t experience die-off anymore, only very slight symptoms that disappear after 10 minutes if I’m a bit too generous with the coconut oil, but otherwise I’m fine with the dose that I’m taking now, even though I lowered the molybdenum. I don’t think my remaining symptoms are die-off symptoms, since I’ve had them for two years continually. But Able says I should increase the molybdenum, and I find it hard to decide what is the best…
Anyways, thanks for motivating me to leave the quark out for a while 😉
ChloëMay 3, 2012 at 8:24 am #80758
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You may want to consider going to a naturopathic doctor who will prescribe specific supplements for specific symptoms. For instance, for my skin problems I am taking a supplement called catplex E2, and for my demineralization problems I am taking some homeopathics. For fatigue I am taking drenamin which slowly recharges your adrenals. I feel that you need to heal specific organs that are causing these symptoms and not everything is cured by just doing the diet alone.
There is also a possibility you have parasites and this needs to be addressed differently. Black walnut extract is great for killing parasites and candida and contains the diatomaceous earth as well. You might also notice more improvements after taking SF722 which prevents candida from re-attaching to your mucousal membranes.
I would also try to up your dose of antifungals to the point where you can tolerate 25 drops per day or so.
-rasterMay 3, 2012 at 8:39 pm #80808
DoggiemamaMemberTopics: 43Replies: 204
AS far as Mercola Probitoics, Thats what i have been taking. I think it is after opening them they need to be refrigerated.
Actually on the bottle it says refrigeration recommended. but stable at room temperature for two yrs.May 3, 2012 at 11:33 pm #80822
see you are doing everything you can with physical treatment (except enema’s), but what about the cause of this whole thing, have you looked into that at all? I have read that you had chronic fatigue before candida, is this a pointer to underlying causes of your health problems?
Hi Chris, sorry, I didn’t see your reply when reading the other replies.
I don’t know what was first for me, I might have had Candida many years before the fatigue, since I’ve had some of the symptoms for a longer time. I don’t know if my fatigue is due to Candida or not. In my opinion, the state of one’s body is always some sort of communication, and I’ve had a lot of stress in the past years. However, I’ve gotten rid of that and I’ve adjusted my life – even going to spend the whole summer in the mountains, which is the place where I’ve always felt the happiest and healthiest. For the rest, I want to focus on my physical treatment, since I think my body needs that support to heal.
All the best to you,
ChloëMay 3, 2012 at 11:36 pm #80824
You may want to consider going to a naturopathic doctor who will prescribe specific supplements for specific symptoms.
I’ve been to many doctors already and tried many kinds of supplements before I started the Candida treatment. Then I cut down on them since I didn’t want things to mix up and interfere in a negative way with each other. I’ve been to a naturopathic clinic the day before yesterday and they took a million of tests, let’s see what comes out there.
I would also try to up your dose of antifungals to the point where you can tolerate 25 drops per day or so.
I am planning to do that, just waiting for the results of my copper test so that I can rise my dose of molybdenum again in order to prevent heavy die-off. I also purchased SF-722, so will start that in the near future.
Thanks for your ideas!
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