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    Julia
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    My story in a nutshell.

    Hi everyone I am a 36 year old female. I have one 13 year old biological son and 4 medical/special needs foster children who are 12, 10, 6, and 3 years old. I have a degree in nursing which I do not practice in hospital at this time but I truly believe “life” sent me to university not only to be educated in helping others but to SAVE myself!

    Lets go back many many years….
    I had a stressful childhood to say the least needed much therapy in my adult years. Then at age 15 I left home and lived a very destructive life full of alcohol, smoking, a poor diet, and nearly every drug possible for many years. It was a constant daily party. I put a lot of drugs into my body with no regard ever for what it may be doing to me.

    By the age of 22 I jumped on the bus one morning and I simply moved to the big city away from that life style. By this time I was still smoking and drinking some but starting to get sick. I was having thyroid issues and had been on several antibiotics for bladder infections, strep throat, and pneumonia etc.. I had debilitating migraines and met the most wonderful life saving chiropractor. He was the reason I was able to get a job. He sorted out all my back issues and headaches issues and he was the first person to ever mention the words “systemic yeast” to me. Of course I didnt’t think anything of it and just carried on..

    By age 24 I had stopped drinking and smoking and I had a c-section to deliver my son. Shortly after his birth I had my first partial thyroidectomy.

    I had a constant struggle with sleep, severe chronic PTSD symptoms…anxiety, panic etc

    By age 26 I started university… my son was 2 years old, I had no money, no car, no supports. Every day was a struggle. I was also in a closet relationship (more stress) and my sons father was no paying support and constantly bringing me down and blaming me for being broke since it was my choice to go to school and be broke (more stress).

    From 26 years to 30 years old… I had my second partial thyroidectomy which now ALL my thyroid gland had been taken out. I had asthma, bronchitis, worse sleep patterns, bladder infections, my heart was out of control with PVC and PAC’s, I could not regulate my temperature or my nervousness either. I went to several doctors all of who said I was stressed and prescribed multiple medications from anti depressants to antianxiety meds. I kept telling them that there was more then just stress wrong with me. I KNEW there was more wrong with me. I was so scared my heart would stop beating. I almost past out from it a few times. Very scary. Some days I could not climb the stairs without stopping 3 times to catch my breath bc my heart would start racing and drowning my lungs in fluids. No one listened. I just carried on.

    4 years later I graduated university! BIG day in my life of struggles. Lots of pride! I starting maternity nursing and loved it. I struggled everyday with being sick but i was so happy to finally have “made it” in the world. I could finally provide for my son : )

    I moved to the country shortly after that. I could not stand living in the city anymore. Just the smell of the exhaust from the vehicles infront of me would give me a huge migraine. I became so incredible sensitive to smells. I changed all the detergents and soaps etc… I started having debilitating kidney pain and pneumonias. I was now in a small town with small town doctor who put me on IV antibiotic therapy for cure my “kidney infection” even though the blood work stated i did not have one. He also would put me on IV anti biotics for pneumonia which now i think back and know it was yeast infection : (

    I was tossed around doctor to doctor for kidney testing MRI’s, CT scans etc (I live in Canada so this was all free) all my testing came back negative. The only thing left ofr the docs was to say i must be crazy. So I went to even more therapy…hohum..

    Finally after months of unbearable kidney pain i was back at my chiropractor and he said “it is a yeast infection in your kidney’s, that’s why the docs can’t ‘find’ it”. He recommended some green powder from the health store which i tried to no avail.

    At this point in my life I had no idea how to treat systemic yeast and just assumed a doctor must know!

    I went into the hospital one day after not being able to eat or drink or sleep or work for days upon days. I was really at my end. I couldnt handle the pain and nothing helped the pain…plus i had developed an allergy to any narcotic medications. I explained to the doctors why i was there and they told me that i had been tested and there was nothing wrong. My world crubled apart. I litteraly could not walk back out the doors without feeling suicidal and so thats what i told them. So I was committed to the psych ward!

    Well at least i got to stay! I was given meds to sleep (which i desperately needed. Some different sort of pain med (which helped a little)…more antidepressants augh, more anti anxiety meds and lots and lots of therapy! 6 weeks and i was sent home on all those drugs and sleepng pills too.

    For the following year ontop of suffering with the usual heart problems, lung, kidney, bladder, sinus (oh ya broke my nose and had to take coious amounts of anti biotics for MONTHS for that), poor vision in my left eye, constantly clearing my throat, sick all the time with colds and flus…then i became allergic to EVERYTHING…reactions so bad my throat swelled and i carried an epi pen everywhere scared to death. I could not eat, smell or touch almost every food, smell or metal.

    Around this same time I had started researching natural cures for autism since my new 2 year old foster son was suffering from that. It taught me all about yeast in these children’s guts and the correlation to the brain etc….ALL the same as systemis yeast in adult!!! Unreal really.
    So I changed his diet and followed the protocols on this child and within 3 days he was a different boy (it took much longer to get him completely off the diet…more like 2 years) but he was severe. He went from not being able to talk, potty train, look you in the eye, he couldn’t taste, or feel pain, he couldn’t process thoughts or sleep and he screamed and kicked constantly banging his head on everything, the agency was in planing stages of sending him to an institute to be medicated forever : ( into a fun loving boy who is now in grade one : )

    From his diet the light bulb when off in myself. My allergies pretty much told me what i could and couldn’t eat so the diet change was not hard plus i was already cooking the same diet for the foster child. I started on supplements just like i was giving to this child and probiotics too. I stopped all prescribed medications for me and for him. I started taking natural products like GABA, Taurine and Melatonin to help myself and him with sleep…and sleep we did for the first time in our lives it seems!

    I also drank H2O2 … a food grade hydrogen peroxide to help kill off the yeast and kill it it did! Die off was unreal but only lasted about a week and then it was like a miracle started to happen….3 months later I was 75% better is ALL my illness even my kidney pain was gone. By 4 months I was starting to add things into my diet and go out for dinner and lunch once in awhile with friends etc. Have a glass of wine with my steak etc. I lived very happy and very healthy for the next year with NO illness other then the odd cold which a couple glasses of H2O2 would cure straight away. I carried on with life! I was so happy all of that was behind me. My anxiety magically left, panic attacks were gone, nervousness gone, temperature regulation was back, my heart never missed a BEAT!…my lungs were clear, my sinuses didnt hurt, my head didn’t hurt and i could THINK! : D

    2 months ago the cat went to the vet and little did we know he came back with campylopactor poisoning. (terrible bug in the gut that poisons you with toxins). My 3 year old got into the litter box like 3 year olds sometimes do. (still unaware at the time). One week last she has a diaper full of bloody stool so i took it in for testing. One week after that the rest of us in the house had caught it. I dont think i have ever felt so much pain in my life. Constant raging cramps, nausea, fever etc. I lost 15 lbs in 4 days. I was not able to carry on and needed a very high dose of antibiotic for 10 days.

    Today I am 2 weeks back on the diet!! I do not want to go through this by myself again so I am hoping for support and am always happy to be supportive as well! My diet is not as strict as some on here. I do eat some brown rice pasta with my meals but otherwise it is sorta all the same.
    My symptoms are not as severe as the first time around but I do have chronic sinus infection, bladder infection, vag yest infections, some kidney pain, allergy to kiwi?, asthma?, constant throat clearing and my heart is a little jumpy again too but not as bad as years past. My doctor saw the amazing transformation from the last diet and so she was willing to prescribe 200mg of diflucan for 20 days (I honestly can not see it making a difference at all!) but was worth a try.

    If you made it to the end of this long story thanks for listening!! : D 😀

    #100631

    Kag
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    Geez… wow Julia… What a story. You sure have been through and done alot. Thanks for telling your story!

    #100633

    Kag
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    Geez… wow Julia… What a story. You sure have been through and done alot. Thanks for telling your story!

    #100636

    Julia
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    Yes it is hard for even me to read…and that’s all in a nutshell! My therapist always told me I should write a book! lol

    the doctors and specialists could never ‘find’ anything wrong with me. They could see it on the heart monitors but couldn’t tell me why. The allergist tested me and told me I wasn’t allergic to anything and that it was all psychological. One doctor tested my heart and on a monitor and when my heart started racing at 210 bpm he told me it was high but still normal. unreal. I told him maybe if i was on speed running from a bear but not just from walking down the hall!!! grr
    Had to go to emergency once because my heart was beating out of control. Emerg doc said it is benign and that it wouldn’t kill me…and then when I wouldn’t stop asking why it was happening she told me she would prescribe beta-blockers. Augh

    My heart problems happened shortly after my thyroid surgery and the cancer surgeon (they thought I have thyroid cancer) who cut out my thyroid told me to go see someone else because it had nothing to do with him and that I was just stressed and then left the room when I began to cry and 5 minutes later a therapist came in. She could tell from our conversation I knew the difference between what stress feels like and what my heart skipping beats felt like. she tried to tell him but he refused to listen.

    My thyroid medication was adjusted about 20 times in the next 3 years thinking that it must be thyroid issues causing all my illness.
    One doctor even went so far as to say I adjusted my own medication just to make myself sick!!! Wow did I scream at him!

    The endocrinologist had nothing to say.

    My gp at the time just kept trying to push antidepressants which i kept refusing telling him i was happy in my life but sick not depressed. His answer was I was a single mom, on assistance in full time university so of course i was stressed and depressed. I love my son and loved university! But at the time there were no doctors taking on new patience so I had to stick with him. boo

    I am happy to report I have a wonderful medical doctor now who has seen me through the worst and seen the diet work with her own eyes. She is very curious about it and very very helpful. I am also now able to afford a natural path doctor (these ones are not free in Canada) who is also onboard with me and we spoke at length last week. She is happy that I am on the right track and reassured me that I was well versed when it came to curing myself and has no doubts I will do it a second time. I also found this site for support which is something I did not have last time. It has been hard to accept that there are so many other people out there who are suffering from this as well but it is a huge relief and weight lifted to know I am not alone in my battle.

    One day at a time…
    : )

    #100648

    MichaelH
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    chronic stress is so harmful. I went through about a decade of severe stress from various things. I started having panic attack in 2006. I had one episode that lasted over 12 hours. I didn’t really know what it was but described my symptoms to a pharmacist when I was overseas. She gave me some Xanax (yup I could get it over the counter in this country) and Wow.. what a lifesaver. I kept getting them all the way through last March and Xanax was always there to keep me from going nuts. Here’s the deal. Since recovering from cancer treatment and getting my life in order, my diet in order, controlling stress… I haven’t come close to feeling any anxiety since July. I’ve recently made several long airplane flights and don’t keep any Xanax there as a “safety blanket”.

    You know you mentioned being sensitive to smells in the past. We have a bread factory that is on my way home from work. On nights I’d work late and drive by the place, the yeasty smell from the place would make me really nauseous. Wierd. I’m good now though.

    So you are back on the diet Julia..and you’ll get through this again. But… maybe look at your regular diet and see where you can make some additional changes that will keep your immune system boosted and your body working as close to 100% as it can. It might mean cutting out some things, but it won’t be that bad and in the end, feeling great trumps the few minutes of joy you get from a certain food that might not be doing you any favors.

    #100660

    Keya
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    Julia;39105 wrote: My doctor saw the amazing transformation from the last diet and so she was willing to prescribe 200mg of diflucan for 20 days (I honestly can not see it making a difference at all!) but was worth a try.

    If you made it to the end of this long story thanks for listening!! : D 😀

    Please be careful with Diflucan, it can be harmful for your liver in such high doses, so make liver tests while or after using it, to make sure it isn’t harming your liver.

    Also, I think the brown rice isn’t quite good for candida, try buckwheat or oat bran instead, forum members are using these without symptoms.

    And just hang in there, and try to stay on the diet if it’s making you feel better 🙂

    #100667

    Julia
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    Thank you both for your replies! : )
    It is encouraging having supports!!

    My doctor will be keeping an eye on my liver : ) I have to say though I don’t see a difference from it at all. I think the natural yeast killers work just as well if not better and yes are less harmful to our systems.

    Also I every time I eat something with just the slightest bit of sugar or starch my throat instantly get yucky phlegm. It is my ‘radar’ so to speak to stay on the foods I know I can eat without disruption. I do eat some brown rice noodles (maybe 1/2 cup a day max) and I do not have the phlegm effect. I also ate it during my first detox and also fed my foster son brown rice in moderation as well during his autism recovery. The diet I follow allows this and even allows other starches in a bit later. I had huge success and so I don’t doubt that it is ok (this is for me, however If others are not comfortable to eat it then please don’t).

    I had huge success just over a year ago with this diet and my foster son did too. As for now I think I will be keeping to the same diet but thank you for the advice! : )

    If I wasn’t making any changes yet at this point I would be concerned about my intake but other then a little brown rice noodle the rest of the diet is the same it seems, but so far I have experienced everything much like the first time detoxing. Die off was terrible for the first week. This week it hasn’t been nearly as bad and I am starting to feel a million times better already!

    I will stay on this plan for 3-4 months and then reassess at that time. I will take probiotics for life! : )

    Take care and thanks again for the advice and support! It means so much to me!

    : )

    #100675

    serenedream
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    Julia;39170 wrote: Thank you both for your replies! : )
    It is encouraging having supports!!

    My doctor will be keeping an eye on my liver : ) I have to say though I don’t see a difference from it at all. I think the natural yeast killers work just as well if not better and yes are less harmful to our systems.

    Also I every time I eat something with just the slightest bit of sugar or starch my throat instantly get yucky phlegm. It is my ‘radar’ so to speak to stay on the foods I know I can eat without disruption.

    I have the same phlegm symptom which is “my radar”, so to speak. And the consistent throat clearing! Ugh! But, since starting the diet, it has totally subsided. I also have had allergies/asthma since a child, and take Singulair medication daily.

    #100691

    raster
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    So are you saying you have parasites now? This sucks! Have you looked into black walnut extract?

    -raster

    #100693

    Julia
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    Hi
    No not saying that at all but i did drop off stool sample this morning to test parasites and ovun and campylobactor just to be sure.
    I have been taking black walnut for two weeks now three times a day as well as others.
    I am curious to know what made you think i have parasites though?
    Take care
    : )

    #100694

    Julia
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    Hi Seren
    Ohh that throat phlem can drive a person crazy! I never knew it was a sign until i cured myself the last time. Its such a relief when it goes away! It also drives my partner crazy lol
    Once that clears my lungs are usually not far behind. No more asthma attacks! Or chronic bronchitis cough and or unproductive coughing. I cant wait!
    Take care!

    #100710

    dvjorge
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    Julia,

    Great Story !!

    I believe I can say why Diflucan isn’t working. Don’t believe it is a bad antifungal because it isn’t.

    Diflucan is a systemic drug. It means it will go straight to your blood in the upper intestinal tract. Systemic drugs such as Diflucan have a low or no impact on the candida colonies living inside the intestinal lumen. There isn’t blood irrigation inside the gut to carries a drug.

    To target the fungus living on the mucus layer that cover the intestinal walls, you need a non-systemic (non-absorbed) drug such as Nystatin or most fatty acids. This is the reason you notice the naturals more effective. However, the naturals have weak parts too.

    Both, systemics and non-systemics have a role during a fungal overgrowth. There is more about it that we can discuss ahead.

    I am here to share my knowledge. Since you are a nurse, you may have the basis to understand many medical terms necessary to know this syndrome.

    Please, don’t call it systemic candida because it isn’t. This syndrome is better called Candida Related Complex. In this way, MDs take you more seriously.

    Jorge.

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    Julia
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    Wow Jorge! Thank you for the info!
    I did not do any deep research into Diflucan…very interesting.

    I am curious though that I have NEVER and I mean NEVER had a problem with my ‘guts’ that I am aware of. I have always been very regular every day. No bloating or gas. I mean I fart but nothing out of the ordinary. I rarely get constipated or have loose stool. I never had pain in my guts until campylobactor poisoning, but that’s a given with anyone who is unfortunate enough to come in contact with that one. I have never had heart burn not even when I was pregnant. I don’t even know what that would feel like but it sounds aweful.

    I guess I’m starting to think (and this is just my own ramble in my mind) the yeast infection in my kidney must have obviously got there via urethra from my chronic vaginal infection. I do not get typical vag infections of burning and itching. Mine is inside the canal. It is full of thick yeast in there…ALWAYS! …until yesterday lol YAY! (that’s another post)

    So I am assuming the yeast form my vagina made its way (just as bacterial infections do) up into my urethra and into my bladder…yes… makes sense now why I had and have so many bladder infections! Augh that was always probably yeast irritating my bladder walls wasnt it?! grrr I took a lot of antibiotics for those infections… then up the ureter and into the kidney. booo

    I also have yeast in my sinuses, throat and lungs.

    It has affected my nervous system, heart and thyroid and left eye.

    I wonder why not my guts? or is it just that i don’t have gut symptoms? It must be in my guts too?

    Curiouser and curiouser

    I will stick to the Diflucan…maybe even for a longer duration now if my liver will tolerate it. Maybe it is helping my kidney’s because since I started taking it my kidneys have a very different on and off mild pain about them. I am wondering/hoping maybe that is the yeast die off in the kidneys. So much is unknown…all I know is I am starting to feel better. : )

    You are right…telling a doctor you are trying to cure systemic yeast will get you a lot of very strange looks lol. I am so glad I finally have a great doctor is on board with me. She is only a few years graduated and sharp, so sharp and curious about this. Her brother is a chiropractor. They are a very very nice family. She shows knowledge and respect, she is kind, caring and always patient. She will sit and listen to EVERYTHING you have to say and take all of it into consideration and will research anything she is not familiar with. She has always been honest about not being taught how to deal with this sort of condition in med school. She is amazing. I wish everyone here was fortunate enough to have a doctor like her.

    Thanks again!
    : )

    #100721

    Julia
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    Ohhh look at the info i just found! LOVE IT! I will be staying on this for certain!

    DIFLUCAN (fluconazole) is indicated for the treatment of:

    Vaginal candidiasis (vaginal yeast infections due to Candida).
    Oropharyngeal and esophageal candidiasis. In open noncomparative studies of relatively small numbers of patients, DIFLUCAN was also effective for the treatment of Candida urinary tract infections, peritonitis, and systemic Candida infections including candidemia, disseminated candidiasis, and pneumonia.
    Cryptococcal meningitis. Before prescribing DIFLUCAN (fluconazole) for AIDS patients with cryptococcal meningitis, please see Clinical Studies section. Studies comparing DIFLUCAN to amphotericin B in non-HIV infected patients have not been conducted.
    Prophylaxis. DIFLUCAN is also indicated to decrease the incidence of candidiasis in patients undergoing bone marrow transplantation who receive cytotoxic chemotherapy and/or radiation therapy.

    Dosage and Administration in Adults

    Single Dose

    Vaginal candidiasis: The recommended dosage of DIFLUCAN for vaginal candidiasis is 150 mg as a single oral dose.

    Multiple Dose

    SINCE ORAL ABSORPTION IS RAPID AND ALMOST COMPLETE, THE DAILY DOSE OF DIFLUCAN (FLUCONAZOLE) IS THE SAME FOR ORAL (TABLETS AND SUSPENSION) AND INTRAVENOUS ADMINISTRATION. In general, a loading dose of twice the daily dose is recommended on the first day of therapy to result in plasma concentrations close to steady-state by the second day of therapy.

    The daily dose of DIFLUCAN for the treatment of infections other than vaginal candidiasis should be based on the infecting organism and the patient’s response to therapy. Treatment should be continued until clinical parameters or laboratory tests indicate that active fungal infection has subsided. An inadequate period of treatment may lead to recurrence of active infection. Patients with AIDS and cryptococcal meningitis or recurrent oropharyngeal candidiasis usually require maintenance therapy to prevent relapse.

    Oropharyngeal candidiasis: The recommended dosage of DIFLUCAN for oropharyngeal candidiasis is 200 mg on the first day, followed by 100 mg once daily. Clinical evidence of oropharyngeal candidiasis generally resolves within several days, but treatment should be continued for at least 2 weeks to decrease the likelihood of relapse.

    Esophageal candidiasis: The recommended dosage of DIFLUCAN for esophageal candidiasis is 200 mg on the first day, followed by 100 mg once daily. Doses up to 400 mg/day may be used, based on medical judgment of the patient’s response to therapy. Patients with esophageal candidiasis should be treated for a minimum of three weeks and for at least two weeks following resolution of symptoms.

    Systemic Candida infections: For systemic Candida infections including candidemia, disseminated candidiasis, and pneumonia, optimal therapeutic dosage and duration of therapy have not been established. In open, noncomparative studies of small numbers of patients, doses of up to 400 mg daily have been used.

    Urinary tract infections and peritonitis: For the treatment of Candida urinary tract infections and peritonitis, daily doses of 50-200 mg have been used in open, noncomparative studies of small numbers of patients.

    Cryptococcal meningitis: The recommended dosage for treatment of acute cryptococcal meningitis is 400 mg on the first day, followed by 200 mg once daily. A dosage of 400 mg once daily may be used, based on medical judgment of the patient’s response to therapy. The recommended duration of treatment for initial therapy of cryptococcal meningitis is 10-12 weeks after the cerebrospinal fluid becomes culture negative. The recommended dosage of DIFLUCAN for suppression of relapse of cryptococcal meningitis in patients with AIDS is 200 mg once daily.

    Prophylaxis in patients undergoing bone marrow transplantation: The recommended DIFLUCAN daily dosage for the prevention of candidiasis in patients undergoing bone marrow transplantation is 400 mg, once daily. Patients who are anticipated to have severe granulocytopenia (less than 500 neutrophils per cu mm) should start DIFLUCAN prophylaxis several days before the anticipated onset of neutropenia, and continue for 7 days after the neutrophil count rises above 1000 cells per cu mm.

    #100723

    Julia
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    Just talking…it’s what I do….

    I am still going to stand 100% behind food grade hydrogen peroxide as my yeast killing agent. It will penetrate at the cellular level and kill and it does it all with oxygen which will also repair the gut not to mention endless other health benefits…and it cost so little.
    Three months, three times daily. Increase by one drop daily. Easy.
    I am confident beyond words that I will get my life back once again!
    : D

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