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    robin
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    Hi,

    My name is Robin. I am a 25 year old girl from The Netherlands. Since I was 16 I was sick. I was diagnosed with IBS and told it was all in my head. For years I tried everything to get rid of it. From drugs to really weird stuff like rocking my bowels like a baby in my mind. I tried everything to get better. I had people talking to my bowels under hypnosis while pretending I was a bowel. Weird stuff. I didn’t care just wanted to get better. I moved to Barcelona, Spain for school (because of my health I had dropped out of so many universities and wanted to make a clean start). The school I was going to was really tough work. No social life whatsoever. Just studying. Because they said it was all in my head and therapy didnt work, I tried for years, I hired a personal trainer to get me fit. I decided it was all in my head and I should just get over myself. My trainer really pushed me. After a work out I would be sick. I would have a high fever, muscle ache like you never had one before, and throwing up all the time. Then I saw a doctor who diagnosed me with ME and fybromialgia. He said I had a long way to go, but I was so thrilled I finally got a diagnoses. After I gave into being sick, not pushing myself anymore, but taking some time off, I noticed that I was always having a fever. I saw this alternative doctor and she diagnosed me with all sorts of deficiencies and a really high count of Candida overgrowth. I moved back to the Netherlands and saw some doctors specialised in ME and fybromialgia, and they all gave me the same diagnoses but nothing they could do about it.

    I spent a couple of months on the couch and in bed. Then I read some stuff online like ‘the yeast connection’ and ‘tired so tired’ and I tried the diet. I got better after a couple of months. And I got of the diet. Now I am as sick as I was before. Walking is really hard, everything hurts and I am in bed all day. I thought getting better always ment that I would be better after a while. But when I eat carbs the trouble start again, not immediately, but it builts up. So now I have to start again. If I do a really severe detox I always get really sick, I tried for the past couple of days, but I have been crying in my bed with pain, so I am gonna take it easy on myself.

    I am looking forward to get better, and maybe, since I got of the diet too soon I will feel like a normal person one day, No idea how awesome that must be.

    Good luck to everybody.

    I know it’s hard but I also know it works.

    And, another great thing, on my long search for cures I found out so much stuff about healthy food, and the candida diet isnt just for people who suffer from candida, it’s really healthy for everybody.

    #72774

    Able900
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    Hello, Robin.

    I spent a couple of months on the couch and in bed. Then I read some stuff online like ‘the yeast connection’ and ‘tired so tired’ and I tried the diet. I got better after a couple of months. And I got of the diet. Now I am as sick as I was before.

    When you say you, “got off the diet” what were the foods that you started eating when you stopped the diet? Did you eat sugar products?

    If I do a really severe detox I always get really sick, I tried for the past couple of days, but I have been crying in my bed with pain, so I am gonna take it easy on myself.

    You’re saying that you experience pain during the detoxing period? What sort of pain do you have, and where is it located?

    If you’ll start taking a mineral called Molybdenum three days before beginning the detox, you won’t feel nearly as sick and should be able to get through it with few if any problems. If you don’t know about this mineral or want more information, just ask.

    Able

    #72776

    robin
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    Hi Able,

    When I got off the diet I started eating the way all Dutch people do. Bread for breakfast and lunch, potatoes during dinner. A lot of fruit and a lot of bread. I don’t eat pasta though because that makes me sick instantly. But we also tend to put chocolate sprinkles on our sandwiches and chocolate spread. Real good stuff 🙂

    I was taking molybdenum, but I get a fever, an awful headache, so cold that I have to wear two pairs of pants and turn the heating up until it gets really warm and a lot of pain in my bowels. I am also really nauseas all the time.

    But I have experienced it’s worse when I only take liquids, if I eat vegetables it’s better, but still horrible. Tomorrow I will start with the cleanse in which I can eat the vegetables. Maybe I can do the more kind one and after I got a bit better go to a more profound cleanse to get rid of everything.

    Sorry for my english 🙂

    I was wondering how much molybdenum you would advice on taking? The package I ordered from the UK says only one tablet a day…

    Tnx!

    #72793

    dvjorge
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    robin wrote: Hi,

    My name is Robin. I am a 25 year old girl from The Netherlands. Since I was 16 I was sick. I was diagnosed with IBS and told it was all in my head. For years I tried everything to get rid of it. From drugs to really weird stuff like rocking my bowels like a baby in my mind. I tried everything to get better. I had people talking to my bowels under hypnosis while pretending I was a bowel. Weird stuff. I didn’t care just wanted to get better. I moved to Barcelona, Spain for school (because of my health I had dropped out of so many universities and wanted to make a clean start). The school I was going to was really tough work. No social life whatsoever. Just studying. Because they said it was all in my head and therapy didnt work, I tried for years, I hired a personal trainer to get me fit. I decided it was all in my head and I should just get over myself. My trainer really pushed me. After a work out I would be sick. I would have a high fever, muscle ache like you never had one before, and throwing up all the time. Then I saw a doctor who diagnosed me with ME and fybromialgia. He said I had a long way to go, but I was so thrilled I finally got a diagnoses. After I gave into being sick, not pushing myself anymore, but taking some time off, I noticed that I was always having a fever. I saw this alternative doctor and she diagnosed me with all sorts of deficiencies and a really high count of Candida overgrowth. I moved back to the Netherlands and saw some doctors specialised in ME and fybromialgia, and they all gave me the same diagnoses but nothing they could do about it.

    I spent a couple of months on the couch and in bed. Then I read some stuff online like ‘the yeast connection’ and ‘tired so tired’ and I tried the diet. I got better after a couple of months. And I got of the diet. Now I am as sick as I was before. Walking is really hard, everything hurts and I am in bed all day. I thought getting better always ment that I would be better after a while. But when I eat carbs the trouble start again, not immediately, but it builts up. So now I have to start again. If I do a really severe detox I always get really sick, I tried for the past couple of days, but I have been crying in my bed with pain, so I am gonna take it easy on myself.

    I am looking forward to get better, and maybe, since I got of the diet too soon I will feel like a normal person one day, No idea how awesome that must be.

    Good luck to everybody.

    I know it’s hard but I also know it works.

    And, another great thing, on my long search for cures I found out so much stuff about healthy food, and the candida diet isnt just for people who suffer from candida, it’s really healthy for everybody.

    Hi Robin,
    One of the most difficult part with this infection is to know the right time to release the diet. It is very difficult to know when there aren’t more fungal candida colonies in the gut able to regrowth and when to know that the immune system and the competitive flora be able to hold candida in its unicellular form.
    Both books you read are very informative, but my experience says me that Dr. Crook didn’t have a well elaborated diet, still allowing food that feed the fungus.
    Another thing is to reverse the immune tolerance it is necessary enough time to allow the immune system re-activates against yeast again. It took time to the overgrowth to suppress the immune system. Then, it will take time to recover it again.

    I advice you to keep away of those books diet, instead to follow a more restrictive diet such as this one in this forum.

    When you be asymptomatic again, I wish it be soon, don’t return to food that feed the fungus for long time. I also think you should continue the antifungals for long enough after the symptoms have disappeared.
    I have relapsed two times after being asymptomatic for 2 or 3 months because I discontinued the diet. Now, I am working in more areas such as detoxification, chelation, and flora recovering with fecal transplants to see if some day I can release the diet and don’t experiment any relapse. The good thing is this time I am not hurried so I don’t care if this will take 2 or 3 years.
    Jorge.

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    Able900
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    Sorry for my english 🙂

    Your English is excellent, Robin, in fact I would have assumed you were in the USA or England if you hadn’t posted your location.

    When I got off the diet I started eating the way all Dutch people do. Bread for breakfast and lunch, potatoes during dinner. A lot of fruit and a lot of bread. I don’t eat pasta though because that makes me sick instantly. But we also tend to put chocolate sprinkles on our sandwiches and chocolate spread. Real good stuff 🙂

    Unfortunately it appears that the normal Dutch diet is the same as a normal American diet, or in other words, one of the worst diets one can have when it comes to building your health and a healthy immune system. To put it as plain as I can, Robin, once you have a really bad Candida albicans infestation, you won’t be able to eat that way on a regular basis, otherwise you’ll only reestablish the population of the Candida and the infestation will return.

    I was taking molybdenum, but I get a fever, an awful headache, so cold that I have to wear two pairs of pants and turn the heating up until it gets really warm and a lot of pain in my bowels. I am also really nauseas all the time.

    I assume this happens only during a detox period, or not?

    I was wondering how much molybdenum you would advice on taking? The package I ordered from the UK says only one tablet a day…

    What is the amount of mcg’s on the label for each pill?

    But I have experienced it’s worse when I only take liquids, if I eat vegetables it’s better, but still horrible. Tomorrow I will start with the cleanse in which I can eat the vegetables. Maybe I can do the more kind one and after I got a bit better go to a more profound cleanse to get rid of everything.

    Robin, not even a profound cleanse can get rid of “everything.” In fact, in your present condition, I would advise against any type of detox period. First you need to work on your general well being and the nausea and sickness you’ve experienced. Can you tolerate eggs? Also please give me a list of the green vegetables that you’re able to obtain. I’ll write more after I receive your answer about the eggs and vegetables.

    Thanks for the quick reply you sent back.
    Able

    #72821

    robin
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    Hi Able,

    thanks for your reply

    Unfortunately it appears that the normal Dutch diet is the same as a normal American diet, or in other words, one of the worst diets one can have when it comes to building your health and a healthy immune system. To put it as plain as I can, Robin, once you have a really bad Candida albicans infestation, you won’t be able to eat that way on a regular basis, otherwise you’ll only reestablish the population of the Candida and the infestation will return.

    Yeah, I know that now, because I experienced exactly this, but that is fine with me as well, because I would rather feel healthy than sick.

    I assume this happens only during a detox period, or not?

    Yes, but now my illness has really come to this point of no way out. I am too sick not to go on a diet or detox, but when I do a detox I get so sick I cannot do anything but stay in bed and suffer…

    So, I kinda felt what you were saying

    In fact, in your present condition, I would advise against any type of detox period.

    So I also thought I should just go on a diet, or even ease into it. But I am kind of confused why I cannot take chicken or meat if I want to get rid of the candida. I only eat organic meat so there won’t be any anti-biotics in it. (I don’t eat chicken because here in the Netherlands the organic chicken has antibiotics in it as well even though they don’t give them anti-biotics)

    What is the amount of mcg’s on the label for each pill?

    It’s 400 mcg

    Can you tolerate eggs?

    Yes, I can have eggs, no problem. As for vegetables, I can get most of them listed on the website, but I don’t so well on cabbage or peas. However, to buy it organic is less easy.

    the goldenseal root and the swedish bitters and black walnut contain all over 40% alcohol, is that ok, because if alcohol (sugars) feed candida it’s not so smart right?

    Tnx!

    #72822

    robin
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    hi dvjorge,

    tnx for your reply

    Hi Robin,
    One of the most difficult part with this infection is to know the right time to release the diet. It is very difficult to know when there aren’t more fungal candida colonies in the gut able to regrowth and when to know that the immune system and the competitive flora be able to hold candida in its unicellular form.
    Both books you read are very informative, but my experience says me that Dr. Crook didn’t have a well elaborated diet, still allowing food that feed the fungus.
    Another thing is to reverse the immune tolerance it is necessary enough time to allow the immune system re-activates against yeast again. It took time to the overgrowth to suppress the immune system. Then, it will take time to recover it again.

    I advice you to keep away of those books diet, instead to follow a more restrictive diet such as this one in this forum.

    When you be asymptomatic again, I wish it be soon, don’t return to food that feed the fungus for long time. I also think you should continue the antifungals for long enough after the symptoms have disappeared.
    I have relapsed two times after being asymptomatic for 2 or 3 months because I discontinued the diet. Now, I am working in more areas such as detoxification, chelation, and flora recovering with fecal transplants to see if some day I can release the diet and don’t experiment any relapse. The good thing is this time I am not hurried so I don’t care if this will take 2 or 3 years.
    Jorge.

    I dont think the diet Crook suggested was any different than the one here. Just veggies and herbs. I know now I should stay on the diet longer, or even forever. That’s fine. But the hard thing is getting started because it will make me feel even worse than I already do. Guess I just have to suck it up. But it gets so hard that I cannot do anything but stay in bed all day.

    #72834

    Lauren
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    Robin,
    I am sorry about the pain you are in. Have you thought of a possible parasite problem along with Candida? I just relate a lot to your post and for me personally the problem is not just Candida. I also have read somewhere that there is evidence that a certain parasite causes Fibromyalgia symptoms, if I remember correctly. I believe it was on a doctor website that everyone highly recommends but now I cant find it. lol So I don’t know how accurate my memory is.

    Here is a link to this doctors book that has something about fibromyalgia and how it might be an underline infection or infestation.
    https://www.drbrownstein.com/bookstore_OvercomingA.php

    Also, I have been told it is all in your head and also tried to push through it. My dad grew up on a farm and I was always taught that pain is just a part of life and with will power you could solve anything. But this is not the case in many situation. If will power along could fix me, I think I would be fixed already. Instead things just slowly got worse and worse. Though I am thankful I learned this from my dad because will power sure helps keeping you going 😀
    Hope you feel better soon and I hope this info helps,
    Lauren

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