- May 19, 2012 at 12:06 pm #82363
I started on the diet very gradually, and it was helping. About a month ago, I cheated. So, I decided to kick it up a notch to get back on track. I had already been taking garlic, but I added olive leaf extract. I had already been taking a very mild pro-biotic (1 billion) and found one that had more cultures (42 billion).
I started the diet to help with acne, and I broke out worse and worse and worse the harder I tried. Now, my acne is worse than it’s ever been, and it’s been bad for 2-3 weeks. My glands in my neck are also swollen.
I also, conceived around the same time which is great, but I don’t know how to safely detox to stop the die-off.
A month ago, I stopped all fruit except blueberries in my yogurt in the morning. Now, I have a green apple to try to detox. I rarely poop, and I’ve tried olive oil on an empty stomach and drinking hot water. Both make morning sickness worse. I found a stronger pro-biotic (100 billion), and I take it twice a day.
Other changes: I’ve added brown rice (in the form of pasta and crackers) and buckwheat cereal back into my diet to stop weight loss. I stopped the olive leaf extract since it can be dangerous to take herbal supplements while pregnant, but I’ve continued with the garlic. I use coconut oil on my skin, but I haven’t eaten any.
What can I do that will be safe for my baby and stop the die-off? Am I making any obvious mistakes?
ThanksMay 19, 2012 at 2:09 pm #82374
Okay, so I didn’t do the stages the way I was supposed to, and I don’t know if I should have been doing this while trying to get pregnant….
I guess my real question is: NOW WHAT?
I’m afraid quitting (for now) would be worse than sticking to it, but sticking to it hasn’t worked clear up my skin either.May 19, 2012 at 5:19 pm #82388
rasterParticipantTopics: 104Replies: 6828
I would personally consult a naturopathic doctor because this is a complex situation to be in and I don’t think many can offer good advice about what to do. There were some users who did this while pregnant and I would try to contact them about their plan/protocol. Do a search for “pregnant” and find those old posts (maybe a year ago or longer).
-rasterMay 19, 2012 at 6:16 pm #82392
A member by the name of “Hope” was on the forum last year. She was pregnant, had Candida, and suffered through several UTI’s during the time she was here on the forum.
You can start reading her story on the page that’s linked below and go forward in page numbers, not back. By the time you reach her last post (which will be on page 1 of the section containing her posts), she was practically cured in that she had been symptom-free for some time, and she had taken several rounds of antibiotics during her pregnancy and treatment with the UTI’s.
If you read her story, you’ll see that she had a perfectly healthy baby girl before leaving the forum. I also think you’ll find it interesting in that her treatment was almost identical to any other member’s – other than the antibiotics she had to take during the treatment.
Molybdenum will help to alleviate the die-off symptoms along with saunas and soaking in a tub of hot water if you’re allowed to do that at this time.
According to the National Academy of Sciences, pregnant and lactating women can take up to 250 micrograms (mcg) of Molybdenum a day.
You should still to go slow with the antifungals and keep the amounts lower than the other members do in order to prevent the toxins from affecting the baby, but as you’ll see in Hope’s story, it’s not impossible to cure your infestation.
Hope’s story: http://www.thecandidadiet.com/forum/yaf_search.aspx#3|5
EDIT: Ok, sorry, but I just checked the link which I should have done when I posted it, and it doesn’t work correctly. So you’ll need to click on the “Search” option above and enter the member’s name (Hope), and in the search field, type “pregnant UTI” and start reading back to page one from there. Typing in any other search term brings up members with the word “hope” in their name, and you only want “Hope” and nothing else.
AbleMay 20, 2012 at 5:20 am #82424
Thank you for the reply! It certainly gives me hope (no pun intended).
I hate my face looking this way, but in the end I am most worried about keeping my baby healthy. I’ll stick to it and take it slow. Hopefully, I can be cleared up in the next 8-9 months and not pass on thrush to my baby.
I ordered some Candex last night. I’m hoping it might help?
I’ll look into getting some molybdenum today.
I can and do take hot bathes. I don’t think saunas are safe, but I spend 10+ minutes a day with my head over a boiling pot of water to steam my facial pores open.
My midwives are going to love me when I show up to my first appointment and explain all this 🙂
JMay 20, 2012 at 6:29 am #82426
Candex is going to cause more harm than good because of the enzymes it contains which are unnatural to the human body, namely cellulase and hemicellulase. In addition it also contains one natural enzyme called amylase which breaks down carbohydrates into sugar faster than normal. I would cancel that order if possible and save your money for something that’s going to help in curing the Candida.
There are literally thousands of ads out there claiming that their product has the ability of curing your infestation, but take it from those who have been through this, there is absolutely no such thing as a miracle cure. It takes time and dedication and a few supplements to achieve this and nothing else will do it for you. The next time you think you’ve found the miracle cure, or even a supplement that may help, pass it by the forum first for some of us who tried everything before finding the answer instead of wasting your money. By the way, don’t load up on a dozen different antifungals either, another waste of money as all you really need is three or four quality ones. We can also help you with that once you’re ready for them.
It sounds like you should probably read some of the posts on the forum that explains the entire protocol that we follow or followed here. Check out all of the links posted in my signature section below.
AbleMay 20, 2012 at 7:04 am #82427
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The post able gave you shows that it can be done and raster is right. I think if you can afford it see a professional who is educated on candida because it’s hard to say how all this may affect the baby short term or in the long run. I wish you the best and I’m sure everything will go well. I applaud you for taking this on and being a part of the forum. Joining was the best decision I ever made. Stick with it and stay positive.May 20, 2012 at 10:22 am #82442
Thanks again. I’ll see if I can cancel my order. Just took my first dose of Molybdenum.
And thank you, raster and Positivo. I was just telling my husband that I’d like professional help, but didn’t even know what kind to look for.May 21, 2012 at 3:17 pm #82552
I’ve been doing quite a bit of reading on the forum including (especially) the protocol Able and raster put together. I’ve come up with a little “to do” list, and I have a few questions.
1. I need to be more strict with the diet. I’ve been letting myself have more fruit and grains than I probably should have. If I eat plenty of veggies, baby and I should have plenty of nutrients.
2. I need to get some kefir. I’m sorry, I just don’t feel up to trying to make it.
3. I need to and can eat more yogurt.
4. Experiment with cutting back on meat in general, but especially beef.
5. Take warm/hot baths daily.
-Should I cut back on the pro-biotic pills I take? (100 billion 2x a day)
-When I take pro-biotics or have kefir or yogurt, do I need to limit the food I have in my stomach with them? I thought I read that somewhere, and now, I can’t find it.
-Do I need to limit my kefir or yogurt intake? Or can I have as much as I want?
-Am I on the right track?
I value your experience and opinions very much.May 21, 2012 at 4:00 pm #82562
-Should I cut back on the pro-biotic pills I take? (100 billion 2x a day)
Reply: In order to create less die-off toxins, I would rather you keep antifungals at a bare minimum or stop them altogether rather than cutting back on your probiotic. One way to look at it is; you can cure the infestation without antifungals if you have to, but you can’t do it without beneficial bacteria changing the environment of the intestines and this is done with probiotics, kefir and Greek yogurt.
-When I take pro-biotics or have kefir or yogurt, do I need to limit the food I have in my stomach with them?
Reply: Take the probiotic on an empty stomach, at least one hour before food and two hours after. Eat the yogurt and have the kefir for snacks so that your stomach won’t be completely full when you have them. Follow the protocol as far as when to star t and how much kefir and yogurt to eat.
-Am I on the right track?
AbleMay 29, 2012 at 10:24 am #83372
For the sake of putting more information about pregnancy and candida out there. Since you guys helped, but didn’t know exactly what to say to me when I asked what to do, I want to give an update.
For the past week, I’ve been very strict with my diet, taking twenty minute hot baths, taking 250 mcg molybdemum, and eating yogurt and/or kefir daily.
I am making positive progress. My face is clearing up but very slowly. My glands seem to be less swollen, but progress is slow with that too. I’ve seen some evidence of candida in my stools.
However, I’ve lost 5 lbs. more, and I’ve been losing my hair. Most days, I don’t feel good enough to get off the couch/out of bed until 4 p.m.
If I wasn’t pregnant, I’d stick it out. However, I am obviously taxing my body too much and not getting enough nutrients, and that’s just not okay when I am putting my long-awaited, much-loved baby at risk. I have to balance the risk of having candida, having die-off toxins for a longer period of time, and not getting enough nutrients, and it’s gotten to the point where I feel the nutrients are the big issue.
I am going to continue the moly and baths, but I am going to add in some more veggies (peas, sweet potatoes, etc.) and more helpings of chicken, turkey, or fish.
I need the strength to get up and make myself something to eat. I need the strength to take daily walks. The green veggies were just not giving me enough even with helpings of buckwheat and eggs. Plus, because of pregnancy hormones, most of the food I can eat looks absolutely disgusting, and I have to choke it down.
I finally found the name of a naturopath in my area (rare around here), and I am just waiting for her to call back. We’ll see if she agrees with me or not. I’ll let you know if my plan changes again.
My symptoms before starting the diet were so mild (mild/moderate acne and occasional vaginal discharge) that if I could go back, I would NEVER have started this diet while trying to get pregnant.
Thank you for recommending the naturopath and molybdenum. Thank you for helping everyone on this forum. Your willingness to help others is exactly why I am sharing my experience with you.
JMay 29, 2012 at 2:15 pm #83400
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I just wanted to say that I agree with what you decided. Baby will most likely get what it needs from you during pregnancy, but this may be leaving you with not enough nutrients. I know women that lost teeth, hair etc. during or right after pregnancy. Eat healthy pregnancy diet and maintain probiotics and good prenatal vitamins and then after you have your baby start your war on candida.
I feel that we are fortunate to know what we know about candida so that we can guide our kids in the right direction. My kids are having kefir daily (and love it just plain) and they eat a lot of veggies and my food with me so this will give them a good start in life and perhaps I can repair any damage in terms of candida overgrowth early in their life and before it affects anything else.
Good luck to you and hope you have easy pregnancy and delivery!
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