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    moochpb
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    I just left an infectious disease specialist and I got into an argument with him. I was referred here by my insurance to do stool samples and more bloodwork. Told him whys going on he told me its all in my mind and I don’t have candida or sibo. Even with results in front of him, he said I look weak, well yeah I’m eating veggies and not a ton of good right now. I just wanna give up, he said its PTSD causing me to think this. He tested me for 9 vials of blood, yet again for HIV, hepatitis once again, prostate, Lyme, autoimmune stuff, irritable bowel disease. Even if some autoimmune stuff pops up what does that mean? Idk what to feel, am I nuts??? So sad. Thanks for listening

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    raster
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    Don’t give up mooch, you are on the right path. The only unfortunate thing is that 99% of all of western medicine does not acknowledge candida/yeast being a cause of health problems and they don’t know how to treat gut flora disorders. The reason for this is a simple one, there is not a single drug that has been advertised to treat this disorder and cure it. In other words, there is no money to be made on candida.

    My naturopath shared an interesting story recently. He has a patient who cannot get out of bed and has all of these auto-immune disorders and is basically non-functional. She goes between having asthma and eczema depending on the week and spent a ton of money going to western medicine doctors, going to the mayo clinic (aka the vatican of western medicine), etc. Went through a ton of dead ends, however they were able to get a diagnosis but there is no treatment they knew of at all!

    So he asks her how much she is pooping? She was pooping maybe 2-3x per month. Now he has her pooping once a week or even more possibly. Guess what? Mayo clinic did not once ask her once about her digestion and how much she is pooping!!!!!!! Are you serious?

    Guess what happens if you crap in a toilet and don’t flush it for a few weeks or longer? Its gonna be nasty. And that is what is going on with most of us, we are not flushing the poo down the drain (aka toxins).

    One thing that may help you get out of this rut is to educate yourself on candida. A great beginner’s resource to learn about this syndrome is Dr. Mcoombs:
    http://www.candidaplan.com/new/media_center/

    -raster

    #99789

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    he did 10 vials of blood where I nearly passed out, he said could be pancreatic cancer or gallbladder problems, etc etc. More worries for nothing probably. I have been reading alot about Candida and is very interesting its just bs how these Drs don’t BELIEVE in it, as he said

    #99794

    Nekotamo
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    Don’t ever ever give up! That’s one thing I’ve been proven to be the key to everything, on and on over and over.

    From my own experience, whenever I was extremely patient and persistent to go TO THE VERY END, it always payed off! ALWAYS! (of course that doesn’t mean you should exhaust yourself by doing some unimportant things to the very end 🙂 but this condition is EXTREMELY important!)
    And whenever I procrastinated or didn’t care much about things that I should have cared about a lot, it just came back to me twice as bad.

    There is no such thing that one cannot do if he/she tries hard enough and keeps on trying for long enough. GUARANTEED.

    #99795

    train21
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    moochpb;38286 wrote: he said its PTSD causing me to think this. He tested me for 9 vials of blood, yet again for HIV, hepatitis once again, prostate, Lyme, autoimmune stuff, irritable bowel disease. Even if some autoimmune stuff pops up what does that mean? Idk what to feel, am I nuts??? So sad. Thanks for listening

    Is it possible that maybe its both PTSD and candida? I personally believe I have candida and other things complicating my symptoms, I think this can also be the case with other people as well, but obviously if you have both, giving up on one to treat the other will not make you any better. If you are responding to the candida protocol dont give up! but I’m unfamiliar with your situation, but if you think there is stock in what the doctor said maybe you should pursue it but I would not give up on the candida treatment in favor of that, you can do both, maybe thats the answer for you?

    #99796

    moochpb
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    I do have PTSD from being in Iraq twice But he was saying my symptoms are all in my head cause I’m depressed, I wasn’t depressed until 7 months ago when I started getting digestive yeast problems. Basically said in nuts and its a mind thing, that set me off. Giving up isnt thing but very upset, no joke but he also said stop the antifungals and take a multivitamin and that’s it.

    #99797

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    moochpb;38299 wrote: Giving up isnt thing but very upset, no joke

    Hey, dude, we know you’re not giving up, maybe you’re about to give up on doctors, but not yourself.

    Tell us something; how much have you progressed while treating your Candida overgrowth? You can use a degree or percentage, or a number from one to ten with ten being at your worst, or you can just describe how you physically feel now compared to before you can to this forum

    Who diagnosed the SIBO?

    Hang in there, guy, you have too many people on your side to do anything else.
    Able

    #99809

    alexalgebra
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    Dude, I totally know how it feels to have doctors think you are crazy, but you are not! The proof is in the pudding…you have improved doing the anti-candida diet and will continue to improve the more you stick with the diet/protocol. You said you’ve had improvement even this past week with less reflux, right?

    Doctors don’t know everything, western, naturopath, and everything in between. There are some, obviously, that are well-educated in candida, but the percentage is quite small. You are not crazy! You can take charge of your own health and kick this without the help of people who charge a lot of money to pretend to know what they’re talking about 😛

    I didn’t start improving really until I stopped listening to doctors and started listening to my body and the experience of folks on here that actually got through all this crap.

    #99814

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    Hey Mooch, you know that some doctors just suck… I don’t know why they tested you for the same stuff if they had already tested you. Smh.. Then they wonder why health care is so expensive here. I think that if you stick with your acupuncture, you will notice a change in time. Seriously. I believe in you and I think you have made a huge effort towards good health. Don’t give up because of some doctor! If you look up problems with yeast and depression, they stem from the same place in chinese medicine, liver stagnation, and problems with dampness overall. I think if you keep going to see a certified acupuncturist you will see an improvement in time. The thing with chinese medicine is that your body and mind are intrinsically linked. There is no such thing as the western idea of a “psychosomatic” disease in the classical sense that we are “making it up”. In chinese medicine, all diseases are mind AND body diseases. Thus, your PTSD probably has affected your candida and vice versa. Get over to that acupunturists and get some ear seeds. Get them to put the ones on the earlobe for “Don’t worry” and “Be happy” 😀 Sending you hugs!

    #99825

    moochpb
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    Able, it’s been almost 3 months and I’d say I learned a ton. I have no more heart burn, no diarrea, not constipated so I’m doing better. I remember those 4 days of horrible die off in the beginning. However it’s been 4 days of no meat and I feel like I’m having die off. Sinus clogged, tired, drunky dizzy feeling, emotional, anxious. However my acid reflux is almost non existant and I think my bloating is a bit better, maybe I’m imagining it though. You guys are great helping everyone on here, but I almost was in tears when the dr said your makin it up. I also wanted to hit him. I’m struggling and he thinks its some cancer or mental thing. The nurse even knew what candida was. My quack naturopath said I have sibo but in questioning it. On my tests it said no abnormal amounts of bad bacteria, so idk. It’s my bloating that bothers me most but raster said it took him almost 6 months for his to go away. Sad thing is my tongue today is coated and he looked but said nothing. Thanks for the support, but this die off I think is making me a mess lol

    #99826

    moochpb
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    Thanks Alexa and kag. I have a grappling tournament that I’ve been putting everything into with the diet and supplements and I’m afraid this die off will make me not last. I’m doing it for myself. After the weekend I’m gonna rest and focus on healing even more. I have been getting better, I’m pretty sure. This sinus headache is for the birds though. I just looked and they tested me for 20 different things when half was just done two weeks ago. I even shown him results. So annoyed, I can’t wait to get into this accupuncture tomorrow. However I have the kidney dr cause my old Naturapath killed my kidneys. I hope he doesn’t say stop the fungals, cause my progress needs to go forward. Thanks all

    #99869

    shell1226
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    Oh Mooch, I am so sorry you are dealing with this. It’s bad enough to be going through a health crisis, it’s horrible that your dr. does not believe you. My heart breaks for you.

    Do not stop what are doing! You are making such wonderful progress.

    We are all rooting for you!

    Rachelle

    #99880

    Cheesey
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    Hey man

    Sorry to hear you’re not doing so well. Psychological torment, for me, is worse than anything I could ever go through physically. I could be dizzy and ready to pass out, but if I’m getting really anxious about it that’s what will put me on a downer.

    I too suffer from an anxiety disorder. It’s more like GAD or OCD than PTSD, but they all interlink and have similar outcomes. I know that you and I both have candida, but an anxiety disorder can seriously mess you up physically too. I’m in the process of disentangling my anxiety and my candida at the moment and its a tricky business realising what’s what because die-off will cause you to feel like you’re about to pass out, but so will anxiety. In reality, I think they are both working together to make me feel like crap and reinforce each other. It is very true that stress will worsen any physical issues you are experiencing, moreover it will provide a playground for candida and subsequently leaky gut. It’s all a vicious cycle.

    Try not to let this guy get to you. The fact is that you are improving so you must be addressing some issue. Moreover, in regards to psychological issues, I have found this diet to be somewhat helpful to my OCD thoughts. I think there are potentially three reasons why this is happening. First is that I’ve now been taking a high dose of omega-3 fish oil tablets for about 5 weeks (and also eating a lot of fatty fish like sardines). Second is that I have been taking ashwagandha, as recommended by Able, for about a week. Third the candida in my body is changing and dying, and it is beginning to have less of a grip on my mind. I find mental symptoms have started to dissipate that I have been battling for over a year (I have felt I’ve been on the borderline of developing a psychotic disorder) and were present even when I was feeling good. I think there are cognitive things I need to do to ultimately address my issues, but certainly nutrition is playing a key role as well.

    Maybe adding ashwagandha and omega-3 fatty acids to your diet could be helpful to decompress psychologically? Doing this might put you in better spirits and it will aid your body get rid of the candida more easily. If you’re stressed and upset then your body will seriously be fighting an uphill battle to repair itself. Stress really, really plays havoc. Able also has suggested a supplement called ‘SAM-e’. I’m thinking of taking this one but I want to wait for a while as I didn’t want to introduce all sorts of different things at once.

    #99885

    moochpb
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    Thanks. Candida and then having mental issues is even tougher. The dr made me irate but so did the gi drs but when u have hope and the nurse tell u this is the dr who will believe you doesn’t, it makes it worse. I’m doing accupuncture tonight, I hope that helps

    #99898

    shell1226
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    Enjoy your accupunture tonight. I am sure it will help you to relax.

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