fighting candida while on steroids – is it possible?

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    jesss2
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    I have a gut overgrowth of candida that I think has caused a flare with my ulcerative colitis.
    I know steroids are a massive cause of candida overgrowth but I feel like in order to get rid of the flare I should kill off the candida but I am on a dose of 9mg Entocort steroids – a bit different to prednisone as it shouldn’t enter the bloodstream and is processed in the liver.
    Is it possible to fight candida with the diet and anti-fungals successfully while still on the medication?
    Thanks

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    Able900
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    It’s probably going to be more difficult than normal, so it would no doubt be necessary to use extra probiotics and a lot of will power from you as far as the diet goes.

    I don’t know anything about Entocort specifically, but steroids in general are capable of binding with Candida albicans which only suppresses the immune response and increases Candida colonization which promotes the spread of the infestation.

    Still, it would have to benefit you to fight the Candida instead of just leaving it alone.

    Able

    #93947

    jesss2
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    Thank you for the reply!
    I agree I think it will be better to do something rather than nothing, maybe it will at least kill enough of it to alleviate some symptoms and stop it from going out of control.
    My doctor recommended 3 probiotics a day for the first month so that might help as well.
    Alright I will give it a go! Day 1 here I come! Thanks again.

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    Able900
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    jesss2;32388 wrote: Thank you for the reply!
    I agree I think it will be better to do something rather than nothing, maybe it will at least kill enough of it to alleviate some symptoms and stop it from going out of control.
    My doctor recommended 3 probiotics a day for the first month so that might help as well.
    Alright I will give it a go! Day 1 here I come! Thanks again.

    A wise decision. Good luck to you. Let us know if you have questions, and if you wish to have the link to the strict diet, just let me know.

    Able

    #93952

    ChevyG20
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    Hi Able, I am new to this forum. I would like a link to the strick diet. I am completely new to this. I just now found out that I have this candida overgrowth and or possible systemic candida. I have had all these horrible symptoms for about three years and I would like to get in the right path. I just want my life back.

    #93953

    flailingWcandi
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    jesss2;32379 wrote: I am on a dose of 9mg Entocort steroids – a bit different to prednisone as it shouldn’t enter the bloodstream and is processed in the liver.
    Is it possible to fight candida with the diet and anti-fungals successfully while still on the medication?
    Thanks

    One of my MIS-dx’s was Crohn’s disease where the body mounts an immune response to healthy tissue and was given Entocort which was suppose to suppress my immune system and make me feel much better. All it did was double me over into a fetal position feeling worse than ever. The GI crohn’s specialist said if I had Crohn’s I would have felt much better, not worse. (it’s a steroid specifically designed to lower the immune system – which we all need to boost our immune systems to in our battles with Candida.

    IMHO taking Entocort while battling Candida is counter productive. Unless there is a very real reason to continue to take Entocort; I would probably discontinue taking it until months and months into Anti Candida Treatment. However, it would probably be best in talking with your Dr. prior to making this decision.

    Blessings and happy healing new year!

    #93954

    Sydney Keith
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    You need to take care of your immune system and this will help fight off your candida. There are a few really good natural ways out there such as ginseng, garlic, and pinecone extract.

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    Able900
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    Sydney Keith;32395 wrote: You need to take care of your immune system and this will help fight off your candida.

    You’ve just described the basis of this forum, and the forum’s entire protocol is designed to do exactly that.

    Able

    #93981

    orka1998
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    If you are taking steroids, I am guessing you have an auto-immune disease. You may want to try to combine the strict protocol with Dr. Wahls diet (http://www.terrywahls.com/). She did amazing things with her MS, but the diet she developed works for other auto immune diseases as well. I was battling candida and did not know I have an auto immune disease. While most of my symptoms disappeared, few got much worse. I pulled back from the treatment a bit (just moved to another stage) to test it and those persistent symptoms were just a little bit better, but still pretty bad. Finally, I got diagnosed with polymiositis and was prescribed steroids. I did not take them. I realized that probably as I was strengthening my immune system, it was attacking me more and this is why it got worse during my treatment. I boosted up on natural anti-inflammatory remedies and did not take any synthetic medication. Instead I went to physical therapy (it helps in this case) and modified my diet to a mix between candida diet and Dr. Wahls diet. Basically, I am not eating anything that will feed candida and I am eating everything and in the amounts Dr. Wahls suggested and added probiotics (I finally have good ones, my ex brought me forum suggested brand with 14 strians and DDS1!). Here is a post where I explain into more detail and give an update of what happened with me since last spring: http://www.thecandidadiet.com/forum/yaf_postst5958_Update-for-orka1998–Arijana—-Yes-I-m-still-here-but-much-healthier.aspx. I am hoping my experience will help you figure out how to get better.

    Here is a three-part webinar with Dr. Wahls (it’s hosted by another organization so suffer through her talk and listen to Dr. Wahls when she comes on):

    1. http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=33272976
    2. http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=34627665
    3. http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=35050773

    So what I am trying to say above, steroids may keep your symptoms away, but will do so much other damage. If your symptoms are not that bad, IMO you are better off trying to fight both candida and your auto immune disease at the same time but naturally. Keep in mind, this is a slow process, but in my opinion it is totally worth it. I do not take any medication and take only few supplements which are suggested to help with my condition and I am not sure I can get enough from the food: vitamin C (1000mg), B-complex, and omega3 (1000mg). I did have great success without having access to many of the items suggested in the protocol, I struggled with probiotics (luckily I had home made kefir), coconut oil is as expensive as gold here, no antifungals (I used natural ones from food only) etc. I don’t think that I am completely cured, after all I have some form of an overgrowth for most of my long life, but I am 99% symptom free and slowly getting even better.

    Best of luck to you!

    Arijana

    #94030

    jesss2
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    Thank you all for your replies! I am taking the candida diet slowly, I’ve started on the diet for a few days and will introduce the anti-fungals and probiotics soon. I just want to be careful because I have lost a lot of weight already from being sick (44kg at 156cm) and don’t want to shock my body too much! I’m also a bit scared the die off will cause diarrhoea or throwing up.

    As for taking the Entocort it is definitely not something I wanted to do but after 8 months of 10-20 bloody diarrhoea movements a day at 20 years old and exhausting so many other options I was getting pretty desperate! I didn’t have any kind of reaction or side effect from them in the first month and am finally getting a little bit of relief. I am only on them for 2 months and once I have this candida under control I am hoping I will be able to control these flares naturally! It’s been really exhausting and I’m just hoping curing the candida will be part of an answer to this disease. What I find interesting is that almost all websites list ulcerative colitis and crohn’s disease as a symptom of candida.

    It’s very daunting! I hope I can at least get a start on it while still on the steroids! I really want my life back!

    #94048

    yisucks
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    I just wanted to say that I have been on the diet for 6 months and have to take steroids every single day…actually, I have to take steroids for the rest of my life for a medical condition I’ve had since I was 12. Anyway, I have seen very big improvements in my symptoms, but you have to stick with it. In 6 months, I only cheated 1x…so it’s definitely possible.

    #94071

    jesss2
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    yisucks;32489 wrote: I just wanted to say that I have been on the diet for 6 months and have to take steroids every single day…actually, I have to take steroids for the rest of my life for a medical condition I’ve had since I was 12. Anyway, I have seen very big improvements in my symptoms, but you have to stick with it. In 6 months, I only cheated 1x…so it’s definitely possible.

    Thank you! just what I wanted/needed to hear! there is hope!

    I’m sorry you have to stay on steroids for the rest of your life, hopefully one day you can find an alternative, I wish you all the best.

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