Don't self-diagnose go to a naturopathic doctor for advice!

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    raster
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    Hello folks,

    I just wanted to say that everyone’s body is very different. While many of these tips/advice can help cure candida, they cannot cure yourself. You need to cure yourself in other words and not just the yeast overgrowth. While the general advice on this forum is very good, it is not for everyone.

    There is a reason that you have candida be it poor diet, pharmaceuticals, drug/alcohol abuse, environmental toxins, etc (there are many different causes). Figuring out how your body got so damaged to cause this health problem is not up to you but a specialist. Everyone’s body is different. Don’t spend endless hours/days trying to figure out why you have candida, go see a specialist who can really give you the help you need.

    In general your kidneys, liver, intestines, adrenal glands, bladder, and many more organs have been damaged by candida. Trying just a few supplements/remedies here and there without a proper plan won’t cure candida for everyone. You may spend months only getting slightly better (like me) when you can be on the road to recovery much much quicker.

    Self help/research-while it can really help, will not necessarily cure you completely. Candida is so complex and hard to understand that you should not overly burden yourself with the research, stress, and potential financial harm on remedies/cures while facing an uphill battle. What you really need is a cure for your body, based on your lifestyle and choices. Additionally, a lot of similar illness’s are intertwined, so curing one may not cure the others.

    In general, the folks on this forum/website can guide you but they are not the ultimate answer. Never completely rely on information from the internet for curing major health problems because it might not allow you to get healthy as quickly as possible. Consult a naturopathic doctor and you may be on the road to recovery within a few weeks instead of months or years!

    #117061

    Vegan Catlady
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    The forum has a lot of leg-work done for people new to their diagnosis, for that I am grateful.

    Before doing alot of research, I found myself paying a regular MD 900$ just to be prescribed vitamin D and Iron and have blood tests done that werent useful in defining a path.

    That was my experience.

    Now that I know enough to qualify a good doctor, I have been in touch with one that makes me feel confident that an end to this is possible.

    Without a doctor however, I can see this being extremely overwhelming.
    A self-defeating mistake at the wrong time in your recovery can break your spirit…its exhausting to re-trace steps because there were holes in your plan.

    Just thought this might be good to bump.

    #117062

    ThomasJoel2
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    I realize that raster made this post almost 3 years ago and may no longer hold the exact same views, but I feel I need to respond to this way of thinking.

    There is absolutely no reason why one cannot both self-research and consult with a naturopath at the same time. This is what I’m doing and have found it to be very beneficial.

    I believe strongly that there is no such thing as too much research and disagree vehemently with the suggestion to do less of it. Everyone posting on and reading this forum should be trying to figure out why they have a candida overgrowth. In my opinion, the suggestion to do otherwise is terribly misguided.

    #117064

    Tdog333
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    I think it’s definitely important to do your own research. Your naturopath/doctor most likely has a ton of patients and lots of other things going on in their life. There’s a lot of new info I am positive most of them haven’t heard(mainly regarding methylation). But the point is that new research comes out every day on a variety of topics. Unless you have an incredible doctor(there are some really good ones out there) they are probably not going to know everything. Part of the reason I got into this mess was blindly following my the advice of a few doctors I’ve seen. (Mainly dermatologists to be honest). I wish I would have researched stuff back then, but the lesson has been learned.

    It’s always a plus when you can bring new information to your doctor that will help other patients down the road too.

    #117066

    raster
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    Ya this is a very old one lol. I think I should restate what I meant in the message because self research is important. What I am mostly trying to address above is that people will chase this for years and do all of these far fetched ideas, when in reality they need a solid and basic plan.

    I basically feel that to save time, money, stress, health, etc. you might want to go to a naturopath and figure out how to get better via a professional. The self treatment stuff might cost you big time. For instance, what if you spent years treating yourself for candida when in reality its IBS or h.pylori or sibo or mercury toxicity, etc.

    Also professional advice is valuable because you can bounce ideas off of them such as what you learn in the forum. From my experience, they likely will agree with many of your findings. However they might know of different things to address via their methods. For instance if you talked to one about chelation, they likely have their own opinion about the best method. You might wan to wait to do it when your pH is neutral, etc.

    I wrote this at a time when we had maybe 30-50 hardcore members and a lot of them were like “I think I have this, and I think I have this, etc.” when they really just don’t know what they are ill with. For instance, someone might say “I have CFS, IBS, candida, etc.” when they haven’t talked to a single professional about treating this and their health problems. I’d hate for people to spend 1-2 years on this forum, sucking up every word of advice and then it not work because they really were ill with something else. We’ve had many forum members go through this and really had bad thyroid problems, etc.

    You need to go back in time when I wrote this, because on this forum…people were almost begging for information and a lot of people were totally brainwashed by able, etc. You don’t know how this forum was back in 2011! Able was basically telling everyone how to get better step by step before the protocol daily. It was intense. Maybe 70% of the people got better though, it was miraculous. But the poor people that suffered…it was tough to see it happen. Able’s ideas didn’t heal everyone and they didn’t help me very much, and I wanted to share my advice on how to get better faster.

    This was just a general warning message I gave to others because I spent about 4-6 months on the forum getting the best advice possible from able900 , dvjorge (when he was new to the forum), and the others and it just wasn’t doing jack shit basically. I went to a naturopath and I got better 2-10x faster in the same amount of time. It was like night and day. I just want people to get good quality professional healthcare because this is a serious medical condition that you shouldn’t mess around with.

    -raster

    #117069

    kjones02
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    You need to go back in time when I wrote this, because on this forum…people were almost begging for information and a lot of people were totally brainwashed by able, etc. You don’t know how this forum was back in 2011! Able was basically telling everyone how to get better step by step before the protocol daily. It was intense. Maybe 70% of the people got better though, it was miraculous. But the poor people that suffered…it was tough to see it happen. Able’s ideas didn’t heal everyone and they didn’t help me very much, and I wanted to share my advice on how to get better faster.

    This was just a general warning message I gave to others because I spent about 4-6 months on the forum getting the best advice possible from able900 , dvjorge (when he was new to the forum), and the others and it just wasn’t doing jack shit basically. I went to a naturopath and I got better 2-10x faster in the same amount of time. It was like night and day. I just want people to get good quality professional healthcare because this is a serious medical condition that you shouldn’t mess around with.

    I totally agree with what raster says here. First, I followed the advice of a integrative doctor (sort of both a nd and md). She helped me get on the right track, but I was still having problems. Then, I joined this forum, and I was the following the advice of Able, and I believe his advice made me worse. Actually, I think it hurt my body more!

    I am a very unique case that I have gastroparesis and the fact of no colon. Then, my years of adrenal exhaustion, depression, eating disorder, etc. hurt my body. I never realized till talking with raster more and his nd that I need to heal my cortisol levels, adrenals, liver, kidneys, etc., too to get over candida.

    I still believe self-research is important, too because then you know what to talk about with the doctor, and I still wish I could heal faster, but I did spend a lot of money on supplements that I probably didn’t need, and I have student loans to pay off!

    I believe I am having more good days again, but I still get frustrated some days. I wish I could consult with the nd more, but I have to make a point, that it still adds up to talk and spend supplements with a nd, too, especially if you aren’t working full-time, and living on social security. I only work part-time, and a few odd end jobs.

    I will feel better one day, and I have gotten great advice from some people here, learned what works and what doesn’t.

    Cat lady, I’ll get you a message later today! =)

    #117073

    Vegan Catlady
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    I actually read raster’s post to mean DO BOTH, not avoid research.

    I thought it was a good idea to consider that when you have symptoms like brain-fog and anxiety that having a knowledgeable back-up,like an ND, would only expedite the solution.

    I imagine that if I went months trying to treat something when it was really something else, I might be worse for all the time that went by.

    The good thing about treating candida is that whatever the problem really is, whether its overgrowth or not, I think alot of people probably have a little overgrowth and havent reached a tipping point yet and so atleast the Diet would only be beneficial.

    #117094

    TheChosenOne
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    In general I would agree with it.
    The problem is that it is hard to find a good doctor. Especially in countries that have socialized medicine, where the government decides what is right or wrong and forces a lot of regulations on doctors. Regulations that are usually lobbied by the pharmaceutical industry. If you practice some ‘alternative’ medicine, the government is likely to withdraw your licence. This is basically the major reason why I’m really considering moving to some place else.
    So, basically, my views are probably a bit different than others because of the doctor mismanagement in my medical history.
    Don’t rely on what your doctor says. Use the lab results as a ‘starting point’ and do research yourself. A lot of medical information can easily be found on the internet. Take your doctor’s advice as ‘something optional’ and something to keep in mind and carry it out if you deem it beneficial.
    Just my 2 cents.

    #117096

    ThomasJoel2
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    raster;55587 wrote: Also professional advice is valuable because you can bounce ideas off of them such as what you learn in the forum. From my experience, they likely will agree with many of your findings. However they might know of different things to address via their methods.

    This.

    Tdog333;55585 wrote: It’s always a plus when you can bring new information to your doctor that will help other patients down the road too.

    And this. I had mentioned Andy Cutler’s protocol to my ND, who had heard of it before, but wasn’t intimately aware of all the details. So, the next time I saw him, I gifted him both of Cutler’s books lol. Now, if/when I get huge gains from this protocol he will have realized the potential impact it can make and will have yet another tool at his disposal.

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