- July 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm #108432
I posted about 3-4 weeks ago that I’d been suffering daily bloating that’d got worse whilst my diet progressed (by about 1 month into strict diet, some tweaks like had no probiotics, a meat source everyday…) and had suffered bad smelly gas everyday too.
I had researched and found it because my digestion is likely to be poor.
I bought Betaine HCl, and tried one a day (before a main meal), increasing by one pill extra every 3 days.
By July 10th I was on about 3-4/day and eventually 5. My digestion seemed to get better & symptoms lessen.
Started Able’s stricter diet on July 14th. Have not introduced anything more in my diet except sauerkraut (Krakus brand, I think it is pasteurised), starting slowly + building up quantity to 4 heaped tsp/day since I had no noticeable reaction.
The Betaine I’d been taking one before and one after each main meal (containing organic chicken one day, then 2 org eggs for 2 days, alternating), and another Betaine with last smaller meal at end of day.
So for 2 weeks I’d been pretty good (not introduced probiotics because the protocol recommended doing so 2 weeks in). My symptoms mentioned had decreased and I’d been feeling good, but every 3 days had a little bit of symptoms. My diet has been very consistent.
Now since 25th the smelly gas + bad bloating are back.
Ordered Swedish Bitters (no alcohol), tried 1/4 tsp twice a day since Saturday 27th. Still getting smelly gas/bloating, but duration of the gas seems to be decreasing. But I keep getting A LOT of gurgling or bubbly feeling in my gut, making me feel uneasy.
So my question is why if I’d been getting better digestion would it get worse all of a sudden if my diet hasn’t changed in the slightest? I’d have the same Betaine dosage, and now with the Swedish Bitters twice a day since 27th July I feel not much better.
Thanks for any helpJuly 31, 2013 at 7:23 pm #108495
rasterParticipantTopics: 104Replies: 6821
I would consider taking betaine HCL with every meal. I never used betaine HCL throughout my treatment but I know that one effective alternative is zypan which is a food grade version of this product.
Additionally, your body might not be producing enough enzymes to break down the food you eat. The swedish bitters help with this, so be sure to take them with every meal.
Also, how much are you chewing your food? Digestion starts in the mouth and if you are not chewing your food 30+ times per each bite, then you are making your digestion more difficult.
If the bitters are not working out, an alternative is to take an enzyme product that helps break down the foods youe at.
-rasterAugust 1, 2013 at 11:24 am #108506
Yeah I’ve started to take Betaine with each meal now, I originally thought it should be used only for meals with protein. So for my salad I have daily I didn’t use them.
I am chewing my food very well, but I can do more definitely. I mainly find I get the gurgling/gassyness after I have the salad and guacamole I make myself, so I wonder if it’s the rawness of the vegetables causing this.
I’ve been taking 1/4 tsp Swedish bitters twice a day, once with first meal and once with afternoon meal. My digestion has been improving very, very slowly each day since taking them. They’re very expensive so I wouldn’t like it to run out too quickly, but I’ll up the quantity to help myself.
I know you’re not meant to take them long-term, so I heard 2 weeks max, then lay off for a week or two is appropriate.
Thanks for the advice Raster.
I also know I need to up my anti-fungals, and start rotating them. I’ve unwittingly been prolonging my treatment by sticking to just 1x caprylic acid 350mg daily.August 3, 2013 at 11:25 pm #108595
MadEmxMemberTopics: 22Replies: 45
I was having this problem as well (the bloating). What helped me was smaller meals more often, cooked or steamed veggies over raw (I know raw is very healthy, but my body hasn’t adjusted yet), hcl before meals with protein, bitters after (about 5-10 min after I eat), chewing my food until it’s almost a liquid (at least 30 chews, and I take pretty small bites. Takes me forever to finish a meal). I was taking pictures to monitor my progress. I went from looking 5-6 months pregnant, to having a stomach that is almost as flat as it was before all of these flare-ups and digestive problems caused by the overgrowth. I also drink slippery elm, chamomile tea and Dr. Miller’s wholy tea to keep things moving. Oh, and Vitamin C (I take other things as well, but these are related to digestion and elimination). I keep a food diary and monitor what causes more bloat than other things and I cut out brussel sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower and cabbage for now. I will add them back in as my system continues adjusting.
I understand your frustration. Hang in there!
PamAugust 4, 2013 at 12:17 am #108598
alexalgebraMemberTopics: 41Replies: 643
Echoing Pam. Raw food is very difficult to digest! I recommend eating a lot of cooked, blended veggie soups (like Bieler broth, recipe is on the forum) to give your digestion a rest. Also, meat is difficult to digest and it is not on the strict diet to eat meat every day.August 4, 2013 at 2:39 pm #108619
Wow thanks Pam! Everything you’ve mentioned has been pretty much what I suspected after Raster’s advice.
I’m in the same boat you were, have been doing pretty much what you recommend and I have definitely improved in my digestion. I noticed after I added sauerkraut the digestive problems have seemingly got worse, despite the slow increase in quantity I’ve introduced.
I like eating brussel sprouts atm, but I have almost cut out Broccoli. May cut out sauerkraut just so I can continue with the sprouts at least (not compounding my problems).
I definitely notice the symptoms occur after a lot of salads/raw foods, but, having said that I’ve eaten exactly the same way last sunday as I have today, and I’ve had minimal symptoms as of 15:35! So things are looking up!
Alex: Yeah I know eating meat everyday was bad, which was why my symptoms were much worse a month + ago. So for the last 2.5 weeks I’ve been having meat every 3 days instead, and it’s going much better. I mainly have a bit of chicken since it’s a more easy meat to digest.
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