- June 14, 2013 at 4:19 pm #106270
meggiedarlingMemberTopics: 4Replies: 4
How do you tell the difference between die off and a reaction? And how long should you wait to tell? I tried Kefir and Yogurt in small quantities for a few days and got headaches and tummy troubles, so I’m backing off those again for a while. Same thing with Soba noodles- I feel a little lightheaded after eating them.
But since I take my supplements with meals as suggested, and since many of the foods are probiotic, prebiotic, and anti fungals, how can you tell if the symptoms you experience are die off related or a reaction?
Several of my biggest symptoms prior to the diet are: blurry vision, severe brain fog, fatigue and yeast infection. Some days my vision and head are very fuzzy after eating and taking my supplements, and some days they are not. I can handle the symptoms if it really is die off, but I want to make sure if its a reaction that I stop.
Any thoughts guys??
By the way, everyone on here is amazing! I love that this community is going to support and help others through this terrible condition! Bless you all!June 15, 2013 at 11:24 am #106289
bluegrasgrlMemberTopics: 0Replies: 3
I wish I could help, but unfortunately I have same issue. I keep thinking its more bad than good. I take my supplements and my skin burns sometimes?!June 21, 2013 at 10:31 pm #106579
natorgaderMemberTopics: 1Replies: 3
There’s no way for us to know except the way you feel after experiencing one or both. my reactions usually come with a lot of fatigue and not feeling like I can’t do much. The die-off is more of a full body feeling more in your head and makes me want to eat sugar a lot and need to use the bathroom constantly. make sure to take the recommended supplements before you start die-off. Reactions can come from anywhere after you eat a food to a couple days after I think. This is why when you test foods its recommended to take only a couple bites of it. I ate coconut bread and had a reaction but that’s because I wasn’t on the diet long enough before trying it and I ate too much. I woke up with overwhelming fatigue and pretty bad oral thrush, it sucks.July 2, 2013 at 2:41 am #107087
MaxtoobadMemberTopics: 5Replies: 11
I started making my own kefir and it knocked me back to some of my pre-candida symptoms. After many months I finally got the poisoned body feeling to go away. I started on kefir, and some of those symptoms came back.
I have no idea if this was die-off or feeding the Candida. Kefir has yeast in it, and some kefir contains candida but not the pathogenic kind (from what they say, they being web blogs with no references), you have no way of truly knowing if it is in it or not. I want to drink kefir but I’m suspicious of it. It has a lot of good stuff in it, but if your immune system is compromised and your intestinal lining, gut bile and/or stomach ph is off, kefir maybe could cause issues? I don’t know. I don’t know any kefir experts. I will continue for the rest of this week on my kefir batches and keep you updated how I feel. Like our ancestors they had to experiment, I suppose that’s all we can do and just be sure to log all symptoms and reactions in a diary which I do.
I will say, my pre-candida brain fog didn’t come back however after drinking kefir, just this allergenic/poisoned like feeling I used to get–no energy, very sick feeling, etc. So, we’ll see! Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and get ill to get well, maybe it is die-off. Don’t know.July 2, 2013 at 5:26 am #107090
alexalgebraMemberTopics: 41Replies: 643
It’s so hard to tell!! I think that everyone is different and everyone has a different set of symptoms for each thing…for me, here’s how it (generally) goes:
Leaky gut/intolerance reaction: Instant fatigue, brain fog, feelings of terribleness (I call this “Stage One”…my key word meaning I will be on the couch curled into a ball, miserable, and whining, or passed out somewhere for a couple of hours until it passes.)
Candida: Itchy butt, smell of vinegar in my nose, itchy butt crack, itchy toes, twitchy toes, grumpiness, irrational anxiety
Die-off/detox: Grumpiness and irritability (definitely #1), headaches, constipation, fatigue (but not the same as the leaky gut…it lasts longer but isn’t quite as acute)
Basically, I would say just make sure you’re taking a ton of vitamin C (like 3-4k a day), molybdenum amino acid chelate, and milk thistle. Give it a little while (like several weeks) for everything to even out, and if you feel really awful, ease up on the antifungals and then slowly get back on them.
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