- May 9, 2012 at 1:49 am #81321
DavorMemberTopics: 1Replies: 1
lately I have felt very confused about my health, and about steps to take to feel better.
I have been convinced for a few years, to have a candida overgrowth. All the syntoms were there (digestion problems, chronic fatigue, tiredness after food, craving for sugar, fogginess; also depression, cold hands and feets, bad breath).
At the beginning of this year, I changed my diet and slowly put out sugar and other foods that feed candida.
In the last month, after a colon cleanse with salt water, I have been on a strict diet, and taking probiotics and grapefruit seed extract. Being vegan, my diet is mainly raw and steamed vegetables, with avocado, oil, seeds, nuts, and spirulina, as source of fat and proteins.
I have did the best I could to help my body in the cleaning process, drinking aloe vera juice, detox teas, taking some liver cleaning herbs; taking contrast showers, sauna, walks, resting, making yoga.
Since I started to use probiotic and grapefruit extract, my sintoms have got worse, which I interpreted as part of process, the “die-off”.
In the last two weeks there has been a peak of this bad feelings, with very intense tiredness after every meal, a lot of pain in the muscles, pain or strong pressure in the chest.
Following the suggestion of my father, I did a stool test to check for candida (before that, I never did any other test). The test was negative.
At this point, I started to feel confused, and to wonder if I completely misunderstood my condition, and what to do next.
Since then all the people I have spoken to, my parents, a naturopathic doctor, people from bioshops, friends, have suggested me that my diet is too restricted and that I do not get enough nutrients from it, and that I am getting too thin (I lost 10 kilos on the diet, and was already thin before).
But can the lack of “good-enough” food be the cause of all the tiredness and pain, toxic feeling in the body, pain in the chest? Or is this the Candida die-off? And then, what about the stool test results?
I feel very confused about it all. Until now, I have done all by myself, but now:
who can I ask for help, and where to make a reliable test?
Any ideas would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
DavorMay 9, 2012 at 5:33 am #81338
Chris24MemberTopics: 12Replies: 329
The stool test is unreliable. There is no full proof reliable test. The die off you are experiencing should be proof that you have candida.
Im all for the vegan diet, especially for treating candida, ive done it myself with good results. I think its great if you can keep it up. However, you must also be aware that your body might need nutrients every once in a while that you are not recieving. I know a vegan who is vegan for health reasons and thrived on a raw diet, but still needed some fish every once in a while to satisfy his body screaming for nutrients he wasnt getting.
However, this might very well be the candida and not the vegan diet that is causing these cravings or unbalances you feel inside. I sometimes found it difficult to differentiate. The extreme fatigue and apathy you have im all too familiar with, but that should get better soon. I guess what it all comes down to again is that you should listen to yourself above anyone else, but know that die off is a very unpleasant but normal candida related feeling that you need to get through.May 10, 2012 at 8:17 am #81447
DavorMemberTopics: 1Replies: 1
Thanks for your answer, I see that you have had a rough time yourself, and I am glad that you feel better.
I want to tell you, for me the hardest part about this process is to go through very intense and changing symptoms (now pain in the chest, a “toxic” feeling in the body, tiredness and tiredness), without knowing, or feeling, that I am doing right. Yes, listening to the body is the best, but the body lately seems to be just saying “no, no, no”, to all this. Then, I try to talk to the body, and say that we are doing this together, to get healthy and feel better.
But underneath there is a doubt: am I wrong, and what I believe is candida (and hold on to this idea, because there I have no other one… what is going on with me?), is actually something completely different?
This answer I cannot get from my body at the moment!
So for the moment, as I continue with the diet, I have decided also to do a blood test, and a few other exams, which I haven´t done for many years, to check how are things generally in the body.
I wish to you and to the people on this forum to find their full energy and joy of life, and to hold on to healthiness, and not candida anymore!May 10, 2012 at 8:35 am #81449
rasterParticipantTopics: 104Replies: 6828
Most of your symptoms sound like candida overgrowth and agree that the stool test is unreliable potentially. Everyone has candida in their body and so its a tough test to determine whether you have it or not…because believe me, you’d be dead if you didn’t have candida in your body!
This diet is completely healthy so I would look at western foods as a problem and why you are here in the first place; gluten sensitivity and candida related health problems are becoming an epidemic and most people don’t tie it all together. Candida can cause diabetes, crohn’s disease, blood pressure problems, various types of cancer, etc.
The only thing that is similar to candida is parasites, and this could be a possibility as well. We all have parasites but at different levels. Testing for this often is inconclusive as well.
A good naturopath would mention that you need meat in order to be healthy, so I would consider this if possible. There likely is all sorts of deficiencies within the body because of not eating any, and I would look at it as a tool to get healthy. A good naturopath also would determine what organs, if any, are damaged currently and will help heal those specific organs with a treatment plan. For instance, the cold hands/feet could be from a slightly damaged thyroid but this hasn’t been tied together by your naturopath yet.
All I gotta say is to keep on your plan and try to alter your diet even more if possible. Nuts contain molds and feed candida; this can significantly set back your progress from my personal experience.
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