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    davidb3069
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    I have just started reading this and other forums since deciding to do something about my Candida. It appears to run in the family as my older sister has it as well.

    Although not diagnosed by a doctor, I score almost perfectly on any of the questionnaires. Probably introduced through several rounds of antibiotic treatments I have had over the last few years. That and I loved (past tense) my beer and soft drinks.

    I have been diagnosed with Diabetes and Gout as well in the last few weeks (although my blood sugar was normal even a few months ago). This all started when I went to the doctor because I could not walk. I assumed it was my long time friend Heel Spur acting up. Not this time.

    The issues I am having right now is trying to figure out how to balance the diets between these three conditions. The foods that are ok to eat vary widely between them.

    What I have been doing is eating yogurt (no sugar added) which lists lactobacilus GG as the bacteria. Keep in mind, it is in spanish because I live in Ecuador. My other main staple is chicken as not to tick off my gout more than necessary.

    I have purchased coconut oil (Good N Natural) but it does not say virgin (we do not get the best stuff here in our stores in Ecuador as the US is fortunate to have). Taking garlic extract softgels every day (Good N Natural, 2000 to 5000mg daily). Biocin (Good N Natural, 4 to 6 of 300 mcg daily).

    Ran out of the coconut oil a few days ago and have not purchased more. Not honestly sure if it is doing any good as I have never felt any difference with it. And it does not say virgin. For the Garlic softgels, the manufacturer says, “does not standardize for allicin; however, it may naturally occur in the plant material. Since this is not a standardized product, allicin is not listed on the label and therefore, we do not guarantee its amount.” So I am not too confident in that either.

    I just started on Nystatin (locally sold as NISTAT). Going to take 500,000 to 750,000 daily (one soup spoon worth, measured this morning).

    I have done some checking and don’t see any Candida specialists here in Quito, Ecuador. Even for the gout one of the local clinics only used a blood test to confirm. I am not ready to move back to the US so I am stuck with my local options for now or try to get them shipped in but that is pricey. Prices here locally are about double the US for any of the above mentioned.

    Any thoughts are appreciated.

    Edited. P.S. Taking vit supplements too.

    Thank you.

    #98922

    alexalgebra
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    Many folks on the forum follow a strict diet and protocol that you can read about here: The Protocol

    It focuses mainly on veggies as the bulk of your food, with some organic eggs and some occasional meat, if you eat meat (I’ve been vegetarian or vegan for 17 years, so I don’t remember the rules about it), and a couple of other items you can add in slowly after a couple of weeks on the diet.

    I believe allicin is the part in garlic that does all the good stuff…an alternative is to simply eat raw garlic. It’s best to chop it and let it sit for 10-15 minutes before eating…the good stuff gets activated when it hits the air, which is why you have to let it sit for a bit. I love garlic, so I don’t have problems chomping it down raw, but some folks prefer to put it in some kind of food. One thing I like is to blend it in with veggies in a blender or food processor, like avocado/lemon juice/raw garlic or cooked greens/raw garlic/sea salt.

    I don’t know what gout’s restrictions are, but the candida diet should be perfect for diabetes, at least in my limited knowledge. There is no sugar whatsoever, except for the little bit that occurs naturally in veggies, as well as pretty much no big starches or carbs…you can have veggies like rutabaga (very anti-fungal!) or turnip and eventually add in buckwheat, but for the most part, it’s pretty low carb. No rice, potatoes, wheat, stuff like that.

    It’s not recommended to eat yogurt at first, and when you do add it in, it’s best to do plain Greek yogurt, organic if possible. The way it’s made means it has less sugar than regular, I think. It also has a lot of protein.

    #98927

    Cheesey
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    I don’t have much to add to what Alex said, just that I went to Ecuador a few years ago and I absolutely adore your country 🙂

    #98930

    davidb3069
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    Thank you for the reply.

    I am not able to eat many meats because of the gout. It really limits my diet.

    I did buy whole garlic the other day. I have not tried it yet with anything as I have not been cooking. I have been buying the chicken to eat. I do plan to start with it though. The garlic softgels are almost out.

    The problem is here in Ecuador (South America), there really are not that many options available for specialty health products. We are lucky to find peter pan in the grocery store (or if you do it is $6 or $7 for a small bottle). Imports here are severely restricted. The population here is not that wealthy in general so there is no way the average person could pay the high prices of healthy options and products so they are not made available.

    I found the health store in the mall but as said, I am really not too confident in the things they are selling. Their labeling is very vague and imported from a US company. Probably vague on purpose. The yogurt I buy is sugar free (0g) and it has 7g of protein. How would a sugar free yogurt affect me unless it’s the other ingredients that I’m not aware of that are gotchas?

    #98932

    davidb3069
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    Cheesey;37430 wrote: I don’t have much to add to what Alex said, just that I went to Ecuador a few years ago and I absolutely adore your country 🙂

    I’m an import here. I am American but have lived here for 5 years.

    #98937

    alexalgebra
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    I’m not sure about the yogurt, it might be ok? Able or someone could probably answer that better than me. I don’t think we have any sugar free yogurt here.

    As for “health” food, I think you can get by with just eating the easiest health food of all…veggies! I don’t have many specific “health food” products I get except for some flours, that sort of thing…like buckwheat, oat bran, coconut flour. I don’t know if you could find those in Ecuador or not, maybe buckwheat? But yeah, I mean I mainly eat a LOT of veggies and a couple organic eggs a day, then supplement with my weird hippie stuff like hemp seeds and buckwheat and coconut manna.

    #98949

    davidb3069
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    I just ate my first crushed garlic. I did 3 cloves of it since I have been taking the softgels and hopefully have some tolerance built up already. I probably ate it too fast and may not have gotten the full benefit of it. I have read some places it should sit about 10 minutes. Of course, I forgot to do that. Just remembered now. Breathe smells wonderful now.

    I have also heard people say to chop it up real well. I chewed mine real well so it should be about the same as chopped. Not sure how well I did for my first attempt.

    #99011

    alexalgebra
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    Sounds like a good start! Next time I would chop it up pretty well and let it sit to get the full benefit. The garlic breath is an unfortunate side-effect…unless you’re hanging around folks that love garlic, LOL

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    davidb3069
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    alexalgebra;37514 wrote: Sounds like a good start! Next time I would chop it up pretty well and let it sit to get the full benefit. The garlic breath is an unfortunate side-effect…unless you’re hanging around folks that love garlic, LOL

    By chopped we mean diced, right?

    Might have had my first noticeable candida this morning. Am hoping to see the beast so I know all this work and investment is worth it. I would hate to start researching other conditions again that may be about the same.

    #99060

    alexalgebra
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    Sometimes you can see it come out, sometimes you can’t.

    I think minced is the word I’m looking for? Chopped pretty small.

    #99068

    davidb3069
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    alexalgebra;37563 wrote: Sometimes you can see it come out, sometimes you can’t.

    I think minced is the word I’m looking for? Chopped pretty small.

    Would you say it is always present, even if not noticeable, so long as the dieoff is happening?

    Even my urine seems to be changing some.

    #99070

    alexalgebra
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    At first, I saw a bit, then I didn’t, now I am again, I think. It’s hard to tell yeast from veggie matter sometimes, LOL. I’ve heard conflicting things about when you should stop seeing yeast or what seeing yeast means.

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