- May 22, 2013 at 2:08 pm #104938
ILLaViTaRMemberTopics: 6Replies: 6
Hi everyone! I’m now almost 24yrs old I’ve been battling stomach/mental issues since I was 18 which has led to my unemployment and social isolation (not to mention the incredibly cruel “friends” who treat you like some meaningless object).
I’ve tried gf/cf diet and the candida diet (no grains/eggs/nuts).Ever since I went off gluten and casein I noticed I felt amazing at first then slowly regressed to my previous health.
As though going off these foods lowered my immunity to them??? I could eat 1 whole pizza and only get gas, itching and dizzyness but nonetheless edible. Now I’ll have HALF a pizza and I feel like im dying, most the time I actually throw up soon after eating and that’s exclusive to gluten. Dairy feels a lot milder and i dont throw it up, but it feels incredibly bad too. None of these diets work for me I seem to get reactions from everything except for literally chicken and steamed green vegetables (and green vegetables still hurt me! but the reaction only lasts momentarily and i need something besides chicken).
I’ve been going to many doctors and gave up for a while (not much reason to keep going in this state with no friends and support) but I did get an m/c/s stool test a week ago and it came back with “numerous cysts of blastcystis hominis present. May be cause of gastroenteritis” So I looked this up and basically died some more inside when I read the cyst form is basically impossible to kill and stops my candida and leaky gut from being cureable. The other thing is antibitics, I’ve just been prescribed flagyl but I know this won’t be strong enough and will probably just strengthen the parasite, I’ve been told I need a triple cocktail of antibiotics to eradicate it efffectively otherwise it will just come back.
So can anyone tell me the best approach for these 3 conditions? It seems curing one aggravates the other.
I can’t take antibiotics for the Blasto due to candida, I can’t take probiotics for my leaky gut because due to blasto thriving off probiotics and I’m terrified in trying antibiotics (and in such a strong cocktail too) as I’m sure antibiotics will devastate my already severe leaky gut and candida infestation which I’ve worked so hard in dieting to heal. I’ve broken the diet many times and a month ago was eating chocolate everyday so I probably haven’t healed anything (I feel my gut is getting a lot worse). If anyone could shed some light I would be greatly appreciative as I feel kind’ve trapped and confused at the moment! Thanks for reading 🙂
EDIT: I forgot to mention a couple of months ago I was diagnosed with many food allergies through an official ige skin allergy test which came up with:
ryegrass 12, tomato 5, Soy 4, wheat 2, Peanuts 2, dustmites 2, cat 2, dog 2.
There might’ve been some others too but I need to find the paper to remember. These tests were done on my skin and had nothing to do with my stomach which I find interesting. What’s more interesting is that I came back as a 0 for cows milk! so I have no allergy to it whatsoever yet it still devastates my gut. In a different way though, allergies feel like there’s a hyperactive chain reaction gas explosions in my stomach, whereas dairy (not chocolate due to soy lecithin) just makes me very fatigued and numb and the reaction isn’t as instant, and I notice I belch a lot too and the belches sound wet and fermenty compared to usual, my saliva changes too and goes thick and I find myself going through a box of tissues within a few hours! And it showed up for 0 on the allergy test!!!! arrrgghh
The other thing is how severe is die off meant to feel? because I’ve never been able to tell if I’m experiencing it or not (I’ve done cleanses with coconut oil before to test if I’d get a severe reaction and have still been unsure). I wasn’t even aware I had allergies until the skin prick test showed them up and now realise that’s what all the explosions of gas in my stomach and dry reaching were, would die off be more or less severe to a food allergy? I’m pretty sure I get it as I’m very nauseas and fatigued constantly whenever I eat the healthiest food i’ll feel my stomach go yuk for a moment then hear some flatulence noise like a valve letting air out, then I get a gross feeling as though some acid had moved around.. all over a space of 20 seconds or so only seems to happen when I eat, fasting is the only way my stomach doesn’t get hurt lolMay 24, 2013 at 2:06 am #105021
impossibleMemberTopics: 16Replies: 606
First off, STAY AWAY from anything that will blatantly feed either the bacteria or yeast. Like ZERO. PERIOD.
Or anything that really makes you feel like crap. Just listen to your body. Start with the candida diet and eliminate foods that will aggravate the bacterial infection. Take molybdenum and Pantethine to help your body detox the candida toxins. This alone will help you feel so much better. I dont know much about b hominis but there are people and doctors that are very actively seeking ways of dealing with it and eradicating it. Search them out. Take their word over any regular doctors. ++++
9If I find something I’ll post it up, maybe someone else can help with this. A woman who specializes with b hominis was mentioned in an article someone recently posted a link to here, I cant find it but maybe someone else would remember. Treat that first. But try not to at the expense of the fungal infection.
Saccharomyces Boulardii would be worth looking into. It can be a pretty effective candida killer and is used to help out with different types of bacterial infections. It could be helpful in your case, one way or the other. It is also used as protection against further bacterial or fungal overgrowth while taking antibiotics.
Surely do anything that is recommended in both (blast and candida) protocols. Make sure anything you do for one wont hurt the other. Ask specific questions and you’ll likely get good answers.
Hang in there. Do alot of research, stay away from the yahoos, you’ll get better at recognizing them as you go. Even doctors can fall into this catagory. Your fate is in your hands. With enough determination and discipline you can at a minimum greatly improve your health and sense of well being. We’ve all been there in some form. Keep a good attitude. There are alot of good reasons for hope, we are in the dawn of a great age of advancement in healthcare (most of it is not mainstream medicine btw) and great things are happening literally every day. Dont hate your condition, embrace it as part of yourself. You will be a much better, smarter, wiser, stronger person when you get to the other side. And you have a lot of good people on your side that you have not even met yet, dont stop reaching out to them.
You can PM me anytime you need anything, be it specific questions or just some moral support.May 24, 2013 at 3:12 am #105030
Smitty99MemberTopics: 27Replies: 227
The previous member already gave you a lot of great info but the one other thing that stood out to me is you said you’re not sure if you are experiencing die off. Well there is honestly no mistaking die off. I felt the same way as you for 2 or 3 weeks prior to starting the diet. I was shoving antifungals in me like crazy and nothing was happening. Maybe a little something here or there.
Not to judge but your regular diet sounds pretty bad and mine honestly was pretty close to yours too. If you’re doing the diet for 2-4 days and not seeing results, getting depressed and going back to eating chocolate or pizza, you are pretty much reversing any progress you made and I’ll explain why. The antifungals won’t do anything when your yeast is strong and full. The yeast will pretty much laugh at whatever you can throw at it and this includes prescription antifungals too most of the time. I was taking niacin, oil of oregano, olive leaf extract and even tried a dose of flucanzole before starting the diet and absolutely nothing happened.
I was seriously depressed and thought my infection was unbeatable but then I read the info on this forum and realized the diet and antifungals go hand and hand. The diet weakens the yeast so they are able to be killed by the antifungals. If you do not do the diet for at least 7-14 days consecutively with NO CHEATING, forget about progress or die off.
My recommendation is to do Able’s strict diet which is 99 percent vegetables for the first week and you will start noticing some die off even without the antifungals.
I don’t want to assume but I think you probably aren’t either giving the diet enough time or still eating foods that are feeding your yeast.May 24, 2013 at 4:56 am #105035
moochpbMemberTopics: 112Replies: 688
When you cheat the bacteria and yeast grows which will then cause die off if your taking fungals. Also your leaky gut won’t get healed until the bugs are out of your gutJune 3, 2013 at 5:37 pm #105570
ILLaViTaRMemberTopics: 6Replies: 6
Thanks guys I’ve got sick of being sick! and haven’t cheated in a week now. I’ve heard of a triple antibiotic cocktail that eliminates blast but Ican’t find a docter that will prescribe me these as they are very strong. So I’ve just been avoiding bad foods but I literally can’t eat anything even as I type this my stomach hurts somehow from a 250gm scotch fillet steak. Green vegetables are the only thing that don’t hurt me (I can feel it instantly believe it or not like some sort’ve inflammation) I had a small amount of lamb (salt/rosemary/olive oil) tonight which was fine at first, but after the 4th cutlet I felt the instant reaction as though I can get away with tiny bits of lamb, and from memory chicken didn’t hurt me at all but I’m going try some tomorrow to confirm.
I can’t eat anything except green vegetables without some form of reaction and I’m worried I’m missing out on a lot of nutrients like zinc/vitamin a/iron and many others is fish ok? I might give that a go as the diet is extremely narrow atm. I’ve also started taking 100mcg moylbedenum with 1200mg NAC and over the last week when I wasn’t I was experincing extreme die off I thin the neasuea was so bad I had to lie down or I’d feel like throwing up. I tried adding in meat and eggs after almsot a week of green vege’s and have definitely noticed reactions to both greens are the only thing I can live on lol is this safe? I definitely feel a lot better when only on them!June 3, 2013 at 7:26 pm #105573
rasterParticipantTopics: 104Replies: 6837
I think you may be going on a long and difficult journey treating yourself for these ailments and you may want to consider consulting a naturopathic doctor. I’ve offered this to a few people on the forum, but if you are interested in one here in Oregon that can treat you remotely, this might be the best way to go to save your suffering.
It sounds like you haven’t been able to do the diet long term and this is problematic; you won’t get better very quickly if you keep on cheating and it doesn’t help whatsoever. If you can do the diet for 4 months without cheating, this will greatly help out how you feel and help heal your body. You cannot heal the body well if you keep on cheating, and then going back on the diet; just save the cheating for when you are better. If you heal yourself correctly, this could be within months…
You likely need a holistic or multi-faceted approach to your health problems where you heal everything at once. It’ll be like peeling on the layers to an onion.
You definitely need vitamins and minerals but would consider testing before supplementing yourself. For instance, too much calcium in men can lead to heart problems…
-rasterJune 4, 2013 at 3:45 am #105603
impossibleMemberTopics: 16Replies: 606
Good job! Stay on track!
I know what you mean about the ulcer pain and meat. Two major things that aggravate ulcers are acid and the enzyme protease, both of which your intestines get a healthy dose of when you eat meat. Try making a big pot of soup, use 1 1/2 pounds of chicken and about two or three pounds of green vege’s and onions in a chicken broth (check the ingredients for sugar or yeast products). Simmer it for at least four hours. It makes over a thousand calories of food to eat throughout the day and its an awesome way to get some protein and carbs without aggravating things much. It can even make beef alot more tolerable as long as you dont eat to much in one sitting.
Also, you want to rebuild your intestinal mucosa lining, nac is mucolytic and destroys it. Eating raw cabbage, or better yet fresh cabbage juice, is an excellent, affordable, and gentle non irritating way of coaxing the body to produce healthy mucous.
Be careful with antibiotics. Im not saying dont do it by any means, just make sure you know what you are doing. Taking large doses like that can have a serious impact on your health and if theres only a small chance that it will make a difference, then it would be worth thinking twice about. Dont let the emotion of fear and desperation overcome your reasoning and best judgement.
Check out curezone too, just dont buy into everything you read from there.June 4, 2013 at 11:08 am #105620
Smitty99MemberTopics: 27Replies: 227
I noticed in your original post you said you’ve been battling mental issues which I’m assuming partly is chronic high levels of stress?
You probably are already aware but if you are trying to get better while still having stress in your life, you will never win that battle. Candida loves a body under stress like no other. High cortisol causes sugar to pump through your blood which feeds the candida and if you are stressed out long enough to an extreme degree, it can be addicting to your body.
Reason I say that is my candida issue went out of control literally 2 weeks after a major stressful event in my life. I know it was that cause I felt adrenaline coursing through me non stop and I’m still trying to recover from it. I feel better from the stress mentally but I have to hope and wait for my body to respond as well. I may look into natural herbs that lower the cortisol levels in the body naturally.
So it’s something to think about. Your mental state can certainly be the trigger of a candida infection. I’m proof of that.June 4, 2013 at 1:59 pm #105622
IAMHEALTHYMemberTopics: 0Replies: 1
sorry to hear about your situation, i personally know how blastocyctis hominis (like candida) can be very debiliating condition but i’m a living example that bh can be gotten under control..I suffered from severe bh infection with amoebas for about 5 years..(that i had gathered from my travels) nearly daily diahria, inability to gain weight, tiredness etc. ..Unlike candida..what i gathered is that bh actually feeds of proteins so i was always craving (and needing to eat) for tons (although i remained on vegetarian diet at the time) ..after trying all kinds of things for bh..the one that really kicked them out was emulsified oil of oregano capsules..extreme high doses for ( if i remember right ) 3 weeks straight or so..i did this whole program through my naturopath and also consulted another one in santa cruz that had a lot of experience with people dealing with parasites for years.. i highly recommend you to find a naturopath to work with as your situation seems complex enough..the one thing that i failed to do to full extend was to build up with probiotics after the protocol..by that time i was so over being on different supplements that when i began to feel better i didn’t keep up with everything i was supposed to.. so please do and also be aware that it is really important to build your gut flora after the protocol (as well as heal your intestinal wall)..one thing that is interesting that when i had bh i always tested low for saccromycis boulardii on my comprehensive stool analysis..whether this was due to bh who knows..but i never tested positive for yeast ..but some years later after having to take double doses of antibiotics for high grade salmonella in asia (also was missing probiotics..) i started having crazy systematic candida symptoms..sooo..i do not recommend taking antibiotics for bh..i think they would make your general situation worse..also all the research i did and the forum i read (there is actually one for people suffering from bh for years..) a lot of people if not all had their bh return after 6 months or so after taking antibiotics..this is also because you can’t take antibiotics long enough to kill the new hatching eggs.. i have not had a cst done in some years now but i have been completely bh symptom free since i did the protocol..(with other protocols i would also have my symptoms return after 6 months or so..)
wish you so my strength on your journey and know that you will feel soo much better (also in your mind) in every way once you get all this under control..and know that EVERYTHING can be healed..first step is to believe in it and then be super proactive about it 🙂
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