- May 29, 2012 at 1:36 pm #83396
do you know anything about connection between candida and social phobia? I suffer from symptoms similar to social phobia and my psychotherapist diagnosed it. But I’m sure it’s more about my physical feeling than mind. It comes from body, my brain is somehow blocked and I have a “flee” program turned on. What do you guys think about it?May 29, 2012 at 4:30 pm #83402
whyitsmeMemberTopics: 9Replies: 72
I would look into Aspergers. I think I may have it, and since being on the candida diet my head has been so much clearer and calmer.In fact it was the clearer head that let me realize it, and put my life into perspective. (only took 45 years) Candida diet is basically the same diet they put autistic kids on. So yes I think there is a large factor due to yeast.May 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm #83406
cerenurtMemberTopics: 6Replies: 18
Croc – Interesting, I had social anxiety disorder for most of my life but I’m pretty much over it now. (I’m 39.) Mine was definitely psychologically based so I’m not quick to say yeast was the cause. But interesting idea!May 29, 2012 at 6:21 pm #83407
Able900SpectatorTopics: 92Replies: 4812
But I’m sure it’s more about my physical feeling than mind. It comes from body, my brain is somehow blocked and I have a “flee” program turned on
How long has that particular feeling described above been happening, Croc?May 30, 2012 at 1:05 am #83422
I have social anxiety symptoms since I was about 12 or younger. It’s not easy to say definitely what is the cause. I’ve written in other topic about my difficult childhood, so that could be the cause. However, I tried cognitive behavioral therapy and it gave me 0% improve.
I’m becoming crazy when I’m near people. Even when my brother is walking around the room I feel uncomfortable. I avoid contact with people so much. But it doesn’t occur when I’m walking in the crowd – I even enjoy that.
When I was a kid and teen, I hated my appearance and have been bullied because of it. I felt like I’m worse person that anybody else. Even today I feel like that, but it’s not so concious feeling. My biggest nightmare is being in a group of people (let’s say 5-8) having to feel fun. My emotions when I’m with people are so fake.
But when my body feels better, my social anxiety decreases. I almost forgot how is it to feel good, but there were some days when I felt “fresh air” in my body and in my brain. I stopped caring about so many things then, like about how am I perceived by people who I don’t know. There must be some hormone which turns that on or something…
I feel sorry about myself that I lost so many years (high school, university). I never felt comfortable in my class, even though people were great.May 30, 2012 at 1:59 am #83425
LatkaMemberTopics: 5Replies: 128
it’s hard to differentiate what is purely psychological and what is physical. However I believe that a lot of what is understood as psychological problems (anxiety, depression) often cannot be addressed or treated properly unless the health and balance of the body is also considered. If you have been able to overcome some of your social phobias on this diet then there’s your proof that this approach is working for you. And that’s great.
I also had social anxiety for years. I went to psychotherapy for a couple of years with no help. I finally accepted that this was just the way I am and that this is how things would always be for me; that I would always struggle to just go to the shop because of anxiety attacs, that I would always get this nervous sweating when just talking to people. However after a while on the Candida diet I noticed that I was getting calmer and my social anxiety was disappearing. This was just an added plus really since I had long since given up on ever finding relief from my anxiety. I was primarily addressing the physical symptoms I was suffering from. But from my experience there is a direct relationship between the health of my gut and the state of my mind.May 30, 2012 at 2:03 am #83426
JavizyMemberTopics: 20Replies: 945
It could be that your chronic stress disrupted your digestion and gut flora, and now they both sustain each other. Stress and dysbiosis cause inflammation and inflammation is linked to depression. Since they both cause each other, it’s kind of a chicken and egg thing. I’d follow the antibiotic trail for the easiest answers.
Remember a candida overgrowth isn’t one-dimensional and is a sign of a severely unstable gut flora, containing potentially hundreds of different pathogens that can cause symptoms from acne to H. pylori overgrowth. It’s likely for that reason that no two people on this website have identical symptoms.May 30, 2012 at 4:49 am #83435
cerenurtMemberTopics: 6Replies: 18
Croc, I have noticed that the better I feel the more at ease I feel around people. If I’m feeling run down, sick, depressed, or anxious then I just don’t have the energy to be around people and have little interest in socializing. (And I STILL hate going to parties…I don’t think that will ever change.)
In fact, I am going through a period of not wanting to socialize now because I feel so tired since going on the diet. I agree with Atka in that it can be really difficult to distinguish psychological vs physical causes. When I’m feeling good, physically and emotionally, the more social and outgoing I am. It’s like I’m two different people sometimes. 🙂May 30, 2012 at 4:57 am #83436
cerenurt – you are right. Large factor of my anxiety is constant lack of energy. I feel guilty when I’m with somebody and just can’t react on his or her words. I just want to go to bed.
And I hate parties too 🙂 I generally hate activities which give me nothing. I like sport, because it makes me fit. I like eating, because it makes me weight more and I love trying new things. I like talking about concrete subjects, because I can know something useful. But parties? I always wondered why people like it. I think it’s about energy! People are gaining energy after interacting with others, but I’m losing mine.May 30, 2012 at 8:31 am #83456
And I hate parties too 🙂 I generally hate activities which give me nothing. I like sport, because it makes me fit. I like eating, because it makes me weight more and I love trying new things. I like talking about concrete subjects, because I can know something useful. But parties? I always wondered why people like it. I think it’s about energy! People are gaining energy after interacting with others, but I’m losing mine.
I think you are right. Its about how healthy people enjoy and FEED on relationships, while for us its tiring and even painful. Sad as fuck at the end to be like this. I can relate with the university and being fake, an hologram thats how I felt, they were wonderful persons but I just couldnt open, sincerely hated being around them wow hated it SO much. I doesnt even know who I am most of the time or if I am good person. And I remember the suffering in school, such an unfair thing to born like this and be vaccinated.
I have everything you guys noted except the brother thing. If someone of my family or a very good friend its around I actually feel better than being alone.
I think you should really look into Heavy Metals. They are the real cause of Aspergers etc in my lets say experienced opinion (I am 21 but have been the last year lurking like crazy in a lot of boards) I know im Aluminum toxic and that this cased IBS and Leaky gut. I think candida just joined the party but its just a secondary part of the problem. Mercury its the one that makes candida a problem.
This is what I discovred: toxins and nutricional defficencies are what causes all the problems… Could be neurotoxins as Heavy metals or the byproducts of candida…May 30, 2012 at 10:25 am #83477
Well, generally I prefer my family at home than being alone as well. But when I’m focused on something, even my family wandering around is making me anxious.
I agree that nutritional deficiency is something crucial. I’m sure that I’m not getting what I should get from food. I’m slim all my life (used to be even thin) and amounts of food don’t really matter, with exception of sugar. More chocolate I eat, more weight I’m losing. And people around me are so jelaous about it. They don’t know what they are saying, for real…
SomeDay – don’t ever think that you are bad person. In Poland we say “Ravens stick together, the eagle soars alone”.
Are you talented in some category?May 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm #83490
Well, I stand out in thinking and speaking, as an Asperger, and because of my obsessive readings. Also in writing, I used to love literature and some philosophy.
Now I rarely read… I also want to be a RPG videogame creative or something it used to be other of my passions until this illness progressed and I needed to focus on it for having any chance to survive.
And I am discovering so many things about health and alternative medicine that they will be useful for someone beside me over time 🙂 But while aluminum, candida, parasites, leaky gut etc etc still in my, I have no clear personality and a lot of negative thinking, basically crushing anhedonia… no life.
I have tests proving that as you, my slimmy body that doesnt changes with overeating its indeed the symptom of me not absorbing most of vitamins and aminoacids… 🙁 Also, dont digest fats correctly… etc.May 30, 2012 at 1:41 pm #83501
RPG games creating – this sounds very interesting 😀 I’m a programmer myself (web things) and when I was a kid, I was making some games. That’s fun!
You like reading and I like singing. I think I can be a good singer if I deal with my symptoms. I like my singing when I’m relaxed and always hear “wows” when somebody listens. But I rarely go out with singing, because I don’t feel comfortable. And in stressful situations I sing much worse. People still like it, but it’s a small fraction of my best.
So have you tried strict candida diet?May 31, 2012 at 6:13 am #83567
Not really, because im scared of giving up fruit. Eveything else its anticandida. Im scared because even with taking some fruits every day I have blackouts when I stand up, so I think I have hypoglycemia, and also I feel an hunger sometimes that cant be satisfied…
Singing its cool, I would love to be in a group, obviously one of my dreams…May 31, 2012 at 7:45 am #83576
Do you know that hypoglycemia in most cases is driven by overeating sugar? I have hypoglycemia too and I know blackouts, plus cold hands, feet and nose. I think you should try to replace fruits (especially breakfast) with vegetables. I’m pretty sure after a few days your hypoglycemia symptoms will be gone. When I avoid sugar for about 3 days, I don’t have hypoglycemia symptoms at all.
But I’m not so sure about relation fruits-candida. There are different opinions on that. Some people claim that sugar in general is forbidden, while others think that it’s just refined sugar and fat that feeds candida. I’m confused.
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