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    Jmb
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    How should i go about tackling them both ?

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    flailingWcandi
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    Jmb;30981 wrote: How should i go about tackling them both ?

    good question…..haven’t THE answer you are looking for but, I was treated for SIBO years ago through a elemental diet protocol of vivonex for two weeks. This was to starve off the bad bacteria. Have also heard in some SIBo cases antibiotics are used to kill off the bad bacteria.

    My personal opinion is they are both signs of disbyosis of Flora, which candida treatment is aimed at correcting. Candida and Bad Bacteria take over the territory from where pro-biotics (good bacteria) are supposed to keep them in balance. Perhaps treating candida might help correct both situations since many antifungals have antibiotic properties. You might print out this forums full protocol.

    Might I also suggest researching endocrine systems and how the thyroid/adrenals interplay with all the above conditions.

    I don’t believe any two people got candida the same way nor will their treatment progress be the same. Something in our systems is out of balance and returning them to balance is the aim of any kind of treatment. One system kind of struggles, others try to pick up what the struggle system is dealing with and a negative feedback loop is created. In my case it was so gradual and initial signs were came on so gradually I didn’t know I was getting sick – most are slow healers. This forums protocol is designed with many things which help all these conditions, it just takes time.

    Not sure if I answered your question but, perhaps there is a tidbit in the above which may aid you healing journey. Wishing you nothing but healing graces and as happy of holidays as possible.

    May 2013 prove to be a year where so many of us all are blessed with genuine healing.

    Blessings.

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    There is little difference, as far as I can see, between SIBO and Candida — both are the result of dysbiosis caused by factors like taking excessive antibiotics or poor digestion caused by lack of stomach acid or caused by a lack of alkaline bicarbonates in the pancreas for proper main stage alkaline digestion in the duodenum. In all cases the immune system is weakened to very low levels — allowing not only candida, but all sorts of pathogenic infestations into the intestines which then disseminate throughout the body to become systemic autoimmune problems.

    Candida has always been an associative disease — it is always associated with other pathogens like viruses, bacteria, mycobacteria and even parasites. This is why no two people with candida will ever have the same symptoms — because of all the myriad associations of candida to other pathogens.

    To give you an idea of the many “symptoms”(other diseases, other pathogens) that can occur with candida, here is a questionnaire that will confirm whether you have candida as well as show you how many other diseases are associated with candida problems:

    Dr William Crook’s Candida Questionnaire

    My own experience and thinking on candida(I cured my own systemic candida — been gone for over 7 years now) is very different to the approach of modern medicine, which still follows the backward tenets of the Germ Theory which are: One Germ –> One Disease –> One Cure. So when doctors are presented with a multi-associative disease like candida, doctors are completely stumped and have no idea how to cure candida and tend just to latch onto the bacterial problems where they then recommend antibiotics — which are all derived and made from molds like penicillin. Penicillin is a mold — it is a FUNGUS!! — so who in their right minds could ever believe that an antibiotic that is derived from a fungus would actually kill a fungal problem like candida? In fact antibiotics will do the direct opposite — they will help to make the candida stronger and help it to rapidly spread !!

    What people don’t seem to realize is that diseases like Leaky Gut, IBS, Crohn’s Disease, H pylori, Gastritis, Ulcerative Colitis, GERD, Arthritis, Myalgia Pain etc may all also involve candida. Therefore all these bacterial diseases can also be regarded as symptoms of candida and until you actually get rid of the candida itself — you will have a very difficult time getting rid of your other bacterial diseases.

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    I agree with slowsmile and we all likely have our own version of candida. I think we have similar symptoms but each of are organs are ailing in different ways when compared to one another. I believe I likely had SIBO, parasites, candida, and even a few more bugs such as strept, mono, etc. I know I had mono a few years ago for certain. I battled strept throughout my childhood and I doubt I ever defeated it fully.

    Digestion involves many organs so everything along the way is messed up in my opinion, starting with the mouth all the way down to the colon.

    -raster

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    slowsmile;30990 wrote: There is little difference, as far as I can see, between SIBO and Candida — both are the result of dysbiosis caused by factors like taking excessive antibiotics or poor digestion caused by lack of stomach acid or caused by a lack of alkaline bicarbonates in the pancreas for proper main stage alkaline digestion in the duodenum. In all cases the immune system is weakened to very low levels — allowing not only candida, but all sorts of pathogenic infestations into the intestines which then disseminate throughout the body to become systemic autoimmune problems.

    Candida has always been an associative disease — it is always associated with other pathogens like viruses, bacteria, mycobacteria and even parasites. This is why no two people with candida will ever have the same symptoms — because of all the myriad associations of candida to other pathogens.

    To give you an idea of the many “symptoms”(other diseases, other pathogens) that can occur with candida, here is a questionnaire that will confirm whether you have candida as well as show you how many other diseases are associated with candida problems:

    Dr William Crook’s Candida Questionnaire

    My own experience and thinking on candida(I cured my own systemic candida — been gone for over 7 years now) is very different to the approach of modern medicine, which still follows the backward tenets of the Germ Theory which are: One Germ –> One Disease –> One Cure. So when doctors are presented with a multi-associative disease like candida, doctors are completely stumped and have no idea how to cure candida and tend just to latch onto the bacterial problems where they then recommend antibiotics — which are all derived and made from molds like penicillin. Penicillin is a mold — it is a FUNGUS!! — so who in their right minds could ever believe that an antibiotic that is derived from a fungus would actually kill a fungal problem like candida? In fact antibiotics will do the direct opposite — they will help to make the candida stronger and help it to rapidly spread !!

    What people don’t seem to realize is that diseases like Leaky Gut, IBS, Crohn’s Disease, H pylori, Gastritis, Ulcerative Colitis, GERD, Arthritis, Myalgia Pain etc may all also involve candida. Therefore all these bacterial diseases can also be regarded as symptoms of candida and until you actually get rid of the candida itself — you will have a very difficult time getting rid of your other bacterial diseases.

    I just done the questionaire and scored 245 not good 🙁

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