- August 5, 2013 at 4:30 am #108647
SueinOzMemberTopics: 12Replies: 24
I posted Week 1 Update last week with a couple of questions as I am finding things really difficult. But I am hanging in there. Week 2 is nearly finished.
Can anyone answer my questions at the end of my post? This diet is so hard. I’m hungry and weak all the time. I am used to eating heaps and running long distances and can do neither! Plus more eye surgery tomorrow.
My SF722 and probiotics arrived today from iHerb.
Thanks so much
SueAugust 5, 2013 at 8:31 am #108649
CheeseyMemberTopics: 37Replies: 245
When I started the diet I threw myself into it full force. That was about 7 months ago. Unfortunately, my system couldn’t take the extreme die-off that occurred and it has left me with chronic fatigue syndrome. I am actually now classed as disabled.
I keep seeing people on this forum throwing absolutely everything at this diet. That’s not to say that others will get as sick as I have, or that they won’t ultimately reap some benefits. However, I see people trying to restore balance to their lives using extremist approaches. To me, it appears more logical that to restore balance you ought to use a balanced approach. With that in mind, if I were to redo this all over again, I would approach everything very slowly. I would dial down the emphasis on antifungals and the ‘kill, kill, kill’ mentality, and I would eat more high energy foods and carbs, and plenty of hefty animal proteins etc. I get that some things might ‘feed candida’ or cause other indirect impacts, but your body isn’t going to do any positive healing under the influence of severe physical and mental exhaustion and stress.
I am sure others who want to always find the next best candida treatment to add to their protocol, and those who always want to cut that one further food in the belief it will restore them to health, will disagree. However, I think it is essential to consider your health in the here and now as well as 6 months down the line. Take it from me, you do not want to end up perhaps permanently ruining your health.August 5, 2013 at 10:26 am #108650
kjones02ParticipantTopics: 79Replies: 315
Cheesey, gave you some great advice! I haven’t been posting on here all the time anymore, and I still have bad days, but not as extreme as before; I can bounce back up pretty fast compared to before.
I actually feel like things are heading in the right direction; it just takes a lot of time. Like raster said, plan anywhere for a 6-18 month recovery, can be 2 years. The key is slow.
I started talking to raster’s naturopath after seeing one last year, starting a somewhat candida diet at the beginning of the year, this diet at the end of Feb./beginning of March = extreme die-off (not getting better). Then, finally, I phoned raster’s naturopath in late May; started following his suggestions and the forum’s at that time. I am starting to see my digestion adjusting itself, but not as bad as before (digestion will probably still be the last thing to cure for me).
However, I am already feeling more calm, peaceful, having more energy, starting to sleep better (not all the time, but I can tell I do a lot during the day, then crash at night to get a good night’s rest!).
The naturopath told me the key for me is go to slow and steady, and that then, I will heal faster. I have a very sensitive system, and when I do too much; I can tell. Then, I have to think about what I did, and slow down a bit, either it be energy-wise or just rest my digestion system and juice my veggies.
Hang in there, and remember, sometimes, like Cheesey said, I had the “kill, kill, kill mentality” at times, too. This is a hard road!
Finally, die-off remedies that help the most for me are sweating either via sauna/tanning, juicing with kale (lots of vitamin C), and taking a liver supplement when headache, etc. kick in! Sweating is the number one remedy though!!!! =)August 5, 2013 at 1:43 pm #108656
MadEmxMemberTopics: 22Replies: 45
I also agree. And I think the balance part is key. We are trying to re-balance our bodies: homeostasis. The protocol is great and it’s the first phase that is tough. My story is a bit different, as I caught the overgrowth early and responded really well to treatment. I did phase 1 for a few weeks and jumped into phase 2. I am slowly introducing new foods and I have been able to run again (I am a marathon runner. I am not doing long distances, but I have managed between 10-14 km. I couldn’t run 6 two weeks ago, so hang in there). I could feel a difference in my body this last week. And I could see it. The bloat is gone and the fatigue is gone. A few weeks ago, I felt down and helpless and that I would never feel good again. Today it is very different. Psychologically, I now fear food. I am scared something will trigger a flare up. The most daring thing I have tried is greek yogurt and amaranth. I also see a naturopath and I sweat it out in a bath or hot tub as previous posters mentioned. It may be easier to kill the beasts more slowly for you. Everyone is different.
PamAugust 5, 2013 at 2:02 pm #108658
Able900SpectatorTopics: 92Replies: 4812
SueinOz;47168 wrote: Hi all,I posted Week 1 Update last week with a couple of questions as I am finding things really difficult. But I am hanging in there. Week 2 is nearly finished.
Can anyone answer my questions at the end of my post? This diet is so hard. I’m hungry and weak all the time. I am used to eating heaps and running long distances and can do neither! Plus more eye surgery tomorrow.My SF722 and probiotics arrived today from iHerb.
The questions you asked in your other post are below with my replies.
I am having eye surgery again next Tuesday 6th Aug (I have 2 eyes!!!) So will not need much energy but need my immune system to be OK and naturally I will have more anesthetic and associated symptoms again after that. Maybe will have to wait another week or so to really tell what is happening with the diet.
If you have to take antibiotics before or after your surgery, you should leave all antifungals out of your treatment (other than coconut oil) and start taking one of the probiotics that I’ve recommended on the following post; Probiotics
What does die off feel like? Flu like etc and aches? While candida resurgence is old symptoms – fuzzy brain, blocked nose etc? Stomach symptoms confuse me.
That’s exactly what die-off feels like. There were huge differences between my own die-off symptoms and the Candida symptoms. Feeling as though you have zero energy can also be a die-off symptoms, as well as headaches and dizziness. But for me the worst was having that sick, flu-like feeling and the terrible weakness and feeling of wanting to go back to bed and do absolutely nothing. These were not part my Candida symptoms.
Is it too early to have coconut milk and shredded coconut – a sort of normal bowl of breakfast food?
It’s probably not too early, but go very slowly starting only one of these at a time. Wait at least a week between starting each of them. Start with a few drinks of the milk, and slowly raise the amount.
The theme of the entire protocol and diet both is, “Not so fast.” This means to take everything very slow. I’ve stressed so many times on the forum about how important it is to go very slow with all the supplements, antifungals, and even kefir and probiotics. Everyone, please do this for your own sake.
Since I am so low in energy and need to be outside all day working on my feet… Can I eat any beans or grains at all. Lima and Pinto seem to be the least in carbs? Any other ideas that give you energy?
What you choose to eat on the diet is always up to youi, but if you eat those foods, especially grains, you will be feeding the Candida every time you have them, and your Candida symptoms will likely increase. There’s a list of ‘grain-like’ foods which can be eaten on the diet which can fill you and give you extra energy. Examples are buckwheat, coconut flour, and oat bran cereal. The safest brand for all of these is Bob’s Red Mill but other brands are available. These items would be much, much more beneficial for your treatment than the foods you named would be.
Can I start a yogurt or the Kefir early so my tummy doesn’t gnaw at me all day? Not cow’s milk, but is anything else possible? Clearly this would not be as per the strict diet so I’m not holding my breath that you will say yes.
You Could start homemade kefir if you have to take antibiotics after your eye surgery. Start drinking the kefir first, then after several days, you can add the probiotics. Continue to take molybdenum and milk thistle, and continue the hot baths in order to sweat the toxins out of your body. Drink a LOT of water always, but especially when you’re experiencing die-off symptoms. Don’t allow yourself to become constipated because this will only keep the toxins in your body causing more symptoms.
AbleAugust 6, 2013 at 11:41 am #108706
SueinOzMemberTopics: 12Replies: 24
Awesome answers guys! Thanks so much.
I’m just home from eye surgery, took a salad for my post-op meal so I didn’t have to eat their sandwiches. I don’t have to take antibiotics, just one of the eye drops is a topical one so not sure if it’s the same as taking tabs, don’t think so.
My Marathon training is on hold but I feel more energetic and not as weak as a few days ago. Can run 6.5km OK still.(Did this on Sunday) I was up to 28km long run the week before the diet.
I have to go and kip now and rest my aching eye. And must be up early to go to the surgeon to get checked tomorrow morning.
I’ll reply again tomorrow more specifically. But it looks like I can push on from here – gently.
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