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  • #71591

    Lauren
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    Able or Raster I have been trying to find your post on Fiber. I need to find one that is FOS free, that is gluten, dairy, wheat, yeast free and that has both soluble and insoluble fiber. I need one that is FOS free because I recently had citrobacter species bacteria and it eats on FOS. Also I need one with soluble and insoluble fiber. This is because soluble fiber absorbs the toxins and insoluble fiber sweeps the colon. These are both important when doing a cleanse. I also would like to find one with flax seed in it since this is also very beneficial. I just don’t know if there is one out there. I have been searching and have not found one. But I hoping that you have. You have helped me a lot already!
    Thanks for your time,
    Lauren

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    raster
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    Well, I think you may have the wrong idea on FOS. FOS is actually very important for healing leaky gut and fighting candida in general. FOS foods help tremendously with digestion.

    Here is a link about FOS:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructooligosaccharide

    -raster

    #71594

    Lauren
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    Raster I agree with FOS for anyone else beside me. I think FOS is very beneficial, just not for me. I personally had a bacteria that eats FOS so I should avoid it at all cost.

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    Lauren wrote: I personally had a bacteria that eats FOS so I should avoid it at all cost.

    Lauren, which bacteria is that and how did you find out?

    #71607

    Lauren
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    Able900 wrote:

    I personally had a bacteria that eats FOS so I should avoid it at all cost.

    Lauren, which bacteria is that and how did you find out?

    Hi Able! I got a Comprehensive Stool Analysis (CSA) done and I had high levels of three bad bacteria they are 3+ Citrobacter braaki, 3+ Citrobacter freundii 4+ Proteus mirabillis. When I mentioned these results to Brenda Watson she stated:
    “FOS is a fruit sugar that is also a fiber and is generally very helpful in the gut. It’s something called a pre-biotic. Your reason to avoid FOS has to do with your particular Stool Analysis test results that you mentioned which showed 3+ Citrobacter braaki, 3+ Citrobacter freundii. That is a particular strain of bacteria that happens to like to eat FOS.”

    I took Ciproflaxcin to help get ride of these bacteria. This is because the lab tested 3+ Citrobacter braaki, 3+ Citrobacter freundii and found that it was resistant to many things but not Ciproflaxacin. However because how strong these bacteria are I am suppose to try and avoid FOS. But I have not been able to find one that has everything I need and that has not FOS.

    This test is also where I confirmed that I had a yeast overgrowth. It was shown up as many yeast in all three stool sample that I gave. I am currently getting another test done by metamrix to see how I have progressed and if they can find any parasites.

    Here is a link to the original test I got done. http://www.labtestingdirect.com/test-kits/item/?pid=625

    Here is a link to the Metametrix test I am getting done currently: http://www.metametrix.com/test-menu/profiles/categorized
    (The one GI Effects Mycology Profile – Stool)

    Thank you as always
    Lauren

    #71761

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    Hi, I also avoid fructose and fructans.I can tell you from the foods allowed list which ones are low in both these things. Unfortunately I don’t know which have soluable or insoluable fibre.

    It is easier just to point out which vegetables NOT to eat on the allowed foods list- onion, garlic, artichokes, asparagus, leeks, turnip, brussel sprouts, dandelion leaves.

    TEST: egg plant and peppers
    I AM UNSURE: Okra, Olives, Rutabaga and swiss chard

    Herbs: I am unsure of these also- parsley is a definite no though.

    Low fructans flour- Oat bran and buckwheat, millet, (quinoa- although not on allowed foods list!!)

    High fructose or unequal- rubarb, granny smith apple, coconut (although lists I have seen vary on this so try and see if you get any reaction from it), tomatoes, almonds (thought they were acceptable and unfortunately found out they weren’t after consuming almond milk this week).

    I get all this information from the food intolerance book by Dr Sue shepherd a food nutritionist who has done research in this area.

    Hope this helps a bit.

    #71764

    Lauren
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    Thanks CT for responding. I was actually looking for a fiber supplement to help sweep of the toxins. πŸ˜€ Sorry for the confusion.
    Lauren

    #71766

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    I am happy you got a stool test done, this sounds first rate. I don’t know how to respond to your results and am more interested in getting a stool test myself. Your naturopath will be more of a specialist on this subject than myself.

    -Raster

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    Thomas
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    CT wrote: Hi, I also avoid fructose and fructans.I can tell you from the foods allowed list which ones are low in both these things. Unfortunately I don’t know which have soluable or insoluable fibre.

    It is easier just to point out which vegetables NOT to eat on the allowed foods list- onion, garlic, artichokes, asparagus, leeks, turnip, brussel sprouts, dandelion leaves.

    TEST: egg plant and peppers
    I AM UNSURE: Okra, Olives, Rutabaga and swiss chard

    Herbs: I am unsure of these also- parsley is a definite no though.

    Low fructans flour- Oat bran and buckwheat, millet, (quinoa- although not on allowed foods list!!)

    High fructose or unequal- rubarb, granny smith apple, coconut (although lists I have seen vary on this so try and see if you get any reaction from it), tomatoes, almonds (thought they were acceptable and unfortunately found out they weren’t after consuming almond milk this week).

    I get all this information from the food intolerance book by Dr Sue shepherd a food nutritionist who has done research in this area.

    Hope this helps a bit.

    This is very interesting. Is it possible to have en Candida infestation AND Fructose intolerance? I noticed that some of my sympthoms while on the diet here at the forum disappeared, like the rectal itching. But other new ones came like panic attacks, restless legs etc. The funny thing is, if I would have both and I eat the diet here I would eat mainly things which would play havoc with my fructose problem. It is very difficult to balance all the diets. I too might have a high amount of histamin a situation called histaminose. A diet low on histamine again would cut the food allowed to an even lower level. Has someone found a balance yet?

    cheers
    Thomas

    #71800

    Lauren
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    Raster,
    I hope the test helps you! πŸ˜€ The problem has been for me is now that I know the problem how do I find a doctor that knows about this stuff. It seems like I know more about these issues than many doctors. The alternative doctor I see now knows about the candida diet,which is a plus, but I still feel I have more info about candida than her. She been great helping me check for other other problems but not so great to help solve the candida problem I have. It like she is learning from me, not the other way around. But thankfully I have this website. I cant wait until the day when all doctors know about candida and understand it is a health problem. Can you imagine when people will be able to get help through their problems without spending tons of time researching it themselves. To think that many of us would not had to go through test after test, felt discouraged because no one would believe you or knew how to help, and would have a road map on how to get better.

    I have a question like always. πŸ˜€ Brenda Watson feels there are cases (very few but some) where medicine is needed to get someone better. That their gut is so unbalanced and their candida infestations is so bad that you need natural antifungals with prescriptions. Do you agree? And if that is the case how do you find a doctor who knows enough about it, when the doctors that are alternative don’t even know enough?

    Thanks and hope you are all feel wonderful,
    Lauren

    #71824

    raster
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    Well, I don’t know what kind of medication would make you better lauren. You can get pharmaceutical grades of probiotics or antifungals, but these likely won’t be as good as other ones we recommend on the forum. I do not feel that medication can help anyone with their candida problem because it doesn’t heal you and doesn’t address the root cause of the problem.

    I feel that supplements, vitamins, and diet can heal a person just as well.

    Question: “how do you find a doctor who knows enough about it, when the doctors that are alternative don’t even know enough?”

    Answer: Well, you may have just not found a good doctor that knows enough about candida to help you along. I found a naturopathic doctor in my town who has taught me a ton and I still learn from him about how the body works. He introduced me to SF722, HMF neuro, and a bunch of other supplements that are really helping me get better and make progress. He has clients/customers around the world and sends them packages; from Brazil to China. He treats you and not the candida.

    Examples:
    I recently started to take a mineral vitamin called min-tran which contains iodine. This helps me with my “need to go urinate” problem in the night when I sleep. I wake up in the middle of the night often when I need to go. He also prescribed me another similar supplement that in general helps me sleep really solid. I have had chronic insomnia for over 10 years and I finally am getting level 4 sleep for the first time in many years.

    I also had a problem with gas after eating protein throughout my treatment. He introduced me to zypan which not only completely eliminated my gas problem, but it healed my body by giving me minerals as well. Now I don’t need to take zypan because I do not have a gas problem anymore; the minerals have been absorbed and I am healed.

    I look at my doctor as a “witch doctor” someone who busts out these random things I have never heard before that are very effective. While I did do a fairly good job learning myself, I feel that he knows a ton more than I ever would about people’s health and how the body works.

    Just ranting here…

    -Raster

    #71863

    CT
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    Lauren wrote: Thanks CT for responding. I was actually looking for a fiber supplement to help sweep of the toxins. πŸ˜€ Sorry for the confusion.
    Lauren

    Aw sorry I thought you were referring to the fibre in food. Hope you find a suitable supplement!

    Thomas: This is very interesting. Is it possible to have en Candida infestation AND Fructose intolerance? I noticed that some of my sympthoms while on the diet here at the forum disappeared, like the rectal itching. But other new ones came like panic attacks, restless legs etc. The funny thing is, if I would have both and I eat the diet here I would eat mainly things which would play havoc with my fructose problem.

    Yes I think it is possible to have both candida and fructose malabsorption. I think perhaps that my fructose malabsorption may have even contributed to developing candida. Although I haven’t found any research that would suggest malabsorption leads to candida.

    I can understand the confusion of symptoms I orginally tried the diet 1 year and half ago and had to stop to find out what was causing the other symptoms as I felt that they were holding me back from getting better while on the candida diet.

    #71870

    Lauren
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    No problem CT! It was good information none the less πŸ˜€

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