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    favre360
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    Now that I’m aware of the symptoms I’d have to say my experience with candida began about 11 years ago at the age of 13. I was always an athletic kid but ate lots of sugar, and hardly ever drank any water. In highschool I got really health conscious and ate a very strict diet high in healthy proteins, fats, and carbs, but still lots of gummy-bears and protein bars that were loaded with sugar. I lifted heavy weights 4 days a week, and always had six-pack abs.

    One day it hit me (14/15 years old). I was so tired all the time, and I’d get these gut wrenching IBS cramps… The cramps went away once I discovered I had a soy allergy and discontinued eating the protein bars, but I was still having trouble staying awake in class and got 7-8hrs every night.

    The doctors were baffled. All the stupid little tests they do turned out fine and it was “all in my head”. Once I graduated highschool, I moved to Bangkok to help my cousin with his business. I drank every night and got seriously addicted to cigarettes, opium, cocaine, and barbiturates.

    So now I’m back in NY and trying to get healthy again. I still drink and smoke but have been cutting back to where I drink maybe 30 beers, and smoke 10 cigs a week… (Baby steps right?!)

    For the last 8 months I have had:
    -Exfoliative chelitis (I apply chapstick every 15 minutes to keep it at bay)
    -Thrush
    -Anxiety/Panic attacks
    -Itchy butthole
    -Bloody and yellow snot
    -Smelly fingernails
    -Bad breath that gets worse when I eat simple sugars
    -Dizziness and mental fog
    -IBS attacks

    Last month right before Xmas I got rosea pityriasis and self-diagnosed but wanted a second opinion. I went to the doctor and he got all defensive. “Well you don’t know that for sure, so I’m going to run some tests.” Again I am seemingly healthy on the outside. Great shape, still got my 6-pack abs, no blood pressure issues etc. He calls me back and says it’s all in my head. WTF.

    So here I am, ready to cleanse and luckily I’m a landscaper so work right now is as simple as plowing driveways when it snows. I’ve been reading up on the paleo diet for quite sometime now and have been waiting to completely cut the alcohol/tobacco, but I get the WORST cravings. Knowing it’s the candida and I won’t actually die (try telling my body that) on only 100-150g complex carbs per day is a real consolation because I’ve tried to do this before but experienced the “candida die-off” I’ve been reading about, and the heart palpitations/cravings led me to believe my body just NEEDED more simple sugars (I’m incredible active despite the fatigue, and active people need carbs). Anyway i’ll try to keep everyone posted on my progress in this thread. I’m not going to cleanse because it’s taken me years to build this much muscle mass (6’3″, 200lbs, 12% body fat), and I’m not about to ruin all the gains I’ve worked so hard for. From what I can gather going paleo(no simple sugars, grains, or dairy), getting lots of probiotics, quitting beer/cigs, and taking some caprylic acid should have me feeling like new in 3-6 months.

    Western medicine is a cruel, cruel joke. Instead of fixing the root cause of illness they just give you crap to mask the symptoms and tell you it’s all in your head. Thanks to Obama, now we’re all forced to subscribe to this two-bit clown shoe operation… But that’s another thread for another forum 🙂

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    #115012

    Vegan Catlady
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    favre360;53522 wrote:

    Western medicine is a cruel, cruel joke. Instead of fixing the root cause of illness they just give you crap to mask the symptoms and tell you it’s all in your head. Thanks to Obama, now we’re all forced to subscribe to this two-bit clown shoe operation… But that’s another thread for another forum 🙂

    Had to give a “thanks” for the Obama crack.

    Right the hell on,dude.

    We are trying to decide in my house if its not just better to pay a fine instead 😉

    Advice,take with a grain of salt-
    try upping the fiber and cutting out the meat and dairy for a few days, and see how you feel.
    Dont eliminate carbs or fruit or veggies, just do some high fiber,hydrate, and give the meat and dairy a rest.

    The reason I say this is because some people are really bad-off and struggle to eat just lettuce; some,like you, can still eat regular food but feel like crap.

    You might be lucky enough to rid this candida with just some lifestyle choices, and the kidneys and liver will catch a break if you get disciplined for a few days.

    #115015

    raster
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    I hate to say it but you’ll need to quit smoking someday if you want the panic/anxiety attacks to go away. Do you get these attacks right after you smoke?

    I am 30 and smoked half of my life and am on week 6 of not smoking. Many of the symptoms you have are way worse by smoking…it literally is killing you from my experience. But its so hard to quit, so I know what you are going through mentally.

    Your lifestyle has damaged your liver and immune system so you need to rebuild it. I also had a similar lifestyle except maybe half as bad as your levels…

    I recommend a bunch of stuff but you need to make some basic lifestyle changes in order to get better, then everything will be much much easier. You simply won’t be able to get much better drinking and smoking at high levels.

    At the least I recommend liver cleansing herbs to help detox.

    -raster

    #115084

    favre360
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    Week 1: Day 1:

    Started by going to my locally owned supplement and vitamin outlet for some goodies.
    – 2 bottles of NOW Candida Support
    – 1 bottle of 8 Billion Acidophilus & Bifidus
    – I took them all (4 of the Candida Support, 2 of the probiotics) as directed.

    I also take a multi-vitamin every morning.

    Some of the foods I will NEVER give up in accordance with The Foods to Avoid
    – My morning protein shake (Muscle Milk (only 2g sugar)) mixed with whole milk.
    – Pork products (esp bacon)
    – Peanuts
    – Carrots
    – Basmati Rice
    Everything else, I can honestly live without.

    Meal 1: 1 serving Bob’s Red Mill gluten-free oatmeal (I know I gotta switch to Oat Bran), 4 slices uncured bacon, 4 eggs fried in the grease, morning protein shake.

    Meal 2: Stir fry. Olive oil, 8oz chicken thighs (weighed after fully cooked), broccoli,celery, red bell pepper, habaneros, jalapenos, peanuts, and jicama. Fried in olive oil.

    Meal 3: Half of a medium sized jicama eaten raw, 4oz grilled chicken breast with baby carrots, all smothered with Franks Red-Hot (0g sugar in the hot sauce).

    Meal 4: 1/4 cup almonds, kale, and 2 servings unflavored greek yoghurt.

    Meal 5: Stir-fry left over from brunch but instead of 8oz chicken thigh I used 4oz grilled chicken breast, and put it over 1/2 cup (uncooked) of basmati rice.

    Meal 6: At this point I’m absolutely starving and my stomach is growling like mad so I grilled up a NY strip, ate 6oz (weighed after i cooked it), and drank at least 3 servings of whole milk.

    Now I’m writing this and getting ready to sleep. I haven’t had any alcohol tonight so I didn’t smoke any cigarettes… Tobacco withdrawal is a joke when you’ve had to rip yourself off opiates, so quitting smoking/drinking wont even be a big deal. The hardest part about all this is cooking so much food all the time and never being able to catch up with the dishes 🙁

    #115085

    favre360
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    raster;53536 wrote: I hate to say it but you’ll need to quit smoking someday if you want the panic/anxiety attacks to go away. Do you get these attacks right after you smoke?

    Your lifestyle has damaged your liver and immune system so you need to rebuild it. I also had a similar lifestyle except maybe half as bad as your levels…

    -raster

    I’m fine with not smoking it’s the alcohol I enjoy!! But then I have a few, and at that point you just can’t not smoke… It’s taken a good 2 years to rebuild what I lost mentally and emotionally from substance abuse. Your brain rewires itself and you become a degenerate. After becoming sober-ish and swearing off hard drugs; it’s difficult to connect with people because your brain doesn’t work like theirs anymore. I’m sure you’re right about my liver and immune system.

    #115086

    favre360
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    Tdog333;53528 wrote: I feel you dude, I’m also 6’3 was at 205 with around 10% body fat, worked so hard to get there hours of working out every day, but screwed myself on the high sugar mass gainers and antibiotics at the same time. Ended up getting some very bad infections and candida as an after effect. I dropped down to around 130 and was in bad bad shape but I’m gettin a lot better. I’ve been able to do some light lifting for the first time in a year and gained 20 pounds since then.

    Just keep working on it, get a good plan going. Find out which supplements you want to take and plan everything out before you jump in. You need to reduce the candida by diet/supplements, detox all the toxins, and restore your immune system.

    Dude. There’s no word to describe the amount of positive vibes I’m shooting your way right now. I’m terribly sorry you had to experience that… No one should ever have to lose 70lbs of muscle mass.

    #115093

    TheChosenOne
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    favre360;53522 wrote: Western medicine is a cruel, cruel joke. Instead of fixing the root cause of illness they just give you crap to mask the symptoms and tell you it’s all in your head. Thanks to Obama, now we’re all forced to subscribe to this two-bit clown shoe operation… But that’s another thread for another forum 🙂

    +1
    Although I support affordable medicine, you don’t want the kind of socialised medicine we have here.

    favre360;53522 wrote: I’m fine with not smoking it’s the alcohol I enjoy!! But then I have a few, and at that point you just can’t not smoke… It’s taken a good 2 years to rebuild what I lost mentally and emotionally from substance abuse. Your brain rewires itself and you become a degenerate. After becoming sober-ish and swearing off hard drugs; it’s difficult to connect with people because your brain doesn’t work like theirs anymore. I’m sure you’re right about my liver and immune system.

    Legal drugs are usually more damaging than illegal drugs. Alcohol is by far the worst drug if you have candida. Try to quit drinking and limit the amount of cigarettes you smoke.

    #115096

    Floggi
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    What you call ‘Obamacare’ is really nothing new in my country. We’ve had various systems for many decades now, and they are similar to your ‘Obamacare’. It simply means that everyone is obliged to have a basic medical insurance. Additional insurance is optional.

    I hear terrible stories from the USA about people not being able to pay their medical bills, and either becoming indebted beyond repair, or avoiding treatment because it’s just too expensive. That’s one thing that doesn’t happen here.

    We chose the obligatory insurance road. Another road would be to provide basic medical treatment for free, and pay the doctors and the hospitals through taxes. The insurance road proved to be cheaper for society than the tax road. Therefore, we have ‘Obamacare’ for as long as I can remember, and we are actually quite happy with it.

    #115122

    favre360
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    Floggi;53617 wrote:
    We’ve had various systems for many decades now, and they are similar to your ‘Obamacare’. It simply means that everyone is obliged [FORCED] to have a basic medical insurance.

    The government cannot, and should not be able to FORCE people to spend their money on a commodity. If I don’t need nor want tap water, I can stop paying my bill. The same goes for rent, electricity, and food. America was founded on the principles of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. As someone who lives in The Netherlands it’s really in your best interest to support the American way of life anyway, seeing as we’ve got around 54,000 troops currently stationed in Germany. What do you think would happen if we pulled those troops out?? Not to mention, Amsterdam is 10 feet below sea level. I’d love to meet the genius who said “Hey let’s build our capital city right in the middle of a dried up pond”.

    But seriously, no more going off topic for me. This thread is about my battle with candida, not my ancestors who fought for an America where people told the government what to do and not the other way around.

    #115134

    Floggi
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    If you think it’s off-topic, then please do not rant.

    Health insurance follows from the concept of paternalistic capitalism. This is solidly founded in modern-day psychology.

    The question to be answered is: how to lower the total cost for society? It turns out that a basic health insurance lowers the total cost, which is for the benefit of all. This is not about the government forcing people to do something they don’t want; instead, it’s something the people called for, and the government followed.

    Please don’t get me started about those thousands of soldiers who are still present in a different country. If you insist though, I can inform you about what happened when foreign soldiers left the German town of Giessen…

    About living below sea level… that’s no problem at all. We are experts in living with water. It’s a pity that some countries are too high-nosed to accept that as a fact. This too is detrimental to the citizens of those countries.

    For example, look at the flooding of New Orleans after hurricane Katrina hit it. Our water engineers warned about the terrible state of New Orleans water management years before, but no-one cared. When disaster struck and the predicted flooding occurred, we happened to have a ship nearby with some of our best engineers and, conveniently, with extremely powerful water pumps. The ship changed course and headed for New Orleans to provide help. For a reason that was never explained, it was denied entrance to any nearby harbour. Even offers to offload the equipment to a different ship were rejected. The same happened to an offer to let our engineers calculate the best way to prevent more damage, to remove the water, and to prevent such flooding in the future. Instead, your government (or must I say: your people, who seemingly tell the government what to do) did it their own way, which (predictably) failed. This caused large delays, and much of the water-management work had to be re-done.

    Now let’s go back to fighting candida. That too is something from which much more Americans than Dutch (or Germans) suffer.

    #115136

    favre360
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    Floggi;53655 wrote:
    Instead, your government (or must I say: your people, who seemingly tell the government what to do) did it their own way, which (predictably) failed.

    Our people don’t tell the government what to do. That’s why we’re now obliged [FORCED] to purchase a commodity, and throw trillions of dollars at un-winnable wars. If America actually used tax dollars efficiently… HAHA. Sorry I gotta stop. That last one’s a little too utopian for my liking.

    Week 1 Day 3:
    Getting back on track diet wise has been awesome, and a lot of my symptoms are already regressing. I’ve been incredibly tired probably sleeping 10 hours per night, and taking a 3 hour nap in the afternoon. I figure my body knows best, and I’ll just give it the rest it needs. I was at the store yesterday, and trying to justify finding a light beer to drink because the pro-bowl was on. I purposely avoided the beer section entirely which really wasn’t easy, but I know how it goes. I drink, and then I smoke, and then I’m down the street ordering a burger, or fried chicken with baked beans and corn bread… Commencing salivation!!

    The main symptom getting noticeably better is my upper lip, which has been cracking and peeling for the last 8 months. It’s finally getting smooth and moist again. I’m only applying chapstick once an hour now as compared to every 15 minutes, and it’s 18F outside!! I never expected my lips to get better this time of year. No brain fog or dizziness after meals which has been nice. Anxiety/panic attacks/heart palpitations have been absent the past 24 hours, as has any yellow coating on my tongue. Also the past 24 hours I have not experienced itchy butthole, IBS, or bad breath. The only symptom still present is bloody yellow snot when I wake up which is to be expected seeing how my last cigarette was only 3 days ago and my lungs/sinuses are clearning themselves out.

    I’m glad my symptoms are clearing up so quickly, but I’m also a little disappointed because it means I’m going to have to make permanent lifestyle changes before they become habitual. Let me explain:

    It takes about 21 days to solidify an action into a habit. This is not the first time I’ve done a weeks worth of healthy eating and not smoking/drinking, only to convince myself “It doesn’t matter if you drink/smoke/eat carbs and fried foods all the time because your symptoms go away so quickly!!!”. This time though, I’d like to make the rest of my life, the best of my life. Hence why I registered at this forum and started this thread. I’m hoping that if I really take the time to document my progress and leave it right at the top of my head day-in and day-out, I can make this stick!! Happy Monday everyone.

    #115137

    favre360
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    Also, staying smoke-free sucks when everyone you live with smokes, and your girlfriend needs a cigarette whenever you’re driving somewhere. I hate those people that are like “Dude, you can’t smoke in here!” So I let her carry on while suffering in silence. Just needed to get that off my chest.

    #115194

    Floggi
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    I know of no smoker who cannot survive without a cigarette for and hour and a half.

    In cases like the one you describe, my solution is always: no smoking in the car, not even with all windows wide open. Smoke a cigarette before we leave. Then we drive for an hour and a half at most. Then there’ll be a cigarette break. Continue this recipe until we reach our destination.

    This solution has always functioned.

    #115296

    favre360
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    Thought I was outta the woods for a second there, and that perhaps my candida symptoms were smoking related. Nope! Still no cigs/beer/glutens since friday, but then last night I did some heavy deadlifts/squats, and was starving when I got home. I had a plate of pasta with chicken… Slept terribly, lips started cracking this morning, got a little pimple under my tongue, and the yellow stuff is back. Looks like I need to stay away from gluten for good 🙁

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