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Javizy wrote: Haven’t you been over this before with Able? There are more research papers than you could read showing how gut flora directly influences immunity. I read a summary of about 50 of them in relation to allergies yesterday. In a not insignificant sense the quality of your gut flora IS your immunity. I don’t know how you can say it’s inconclusive.
The other things you mentioned are largely irrelevant to people already on the diet, and would otherwise be important because of the negative effect they have on the intestinal lining and consequently the gut flora. What you mention about acquired immune problems and resolving them can all be explained in terms of gut flora, which can be confirmed by countless scientists’ research from as far back as the 70s.
For some reason you choose to use your interpretation of some guy’s theories and Internet anecdotes to overcomplicate the issue and downplay the need for probiotics instead of acknowledging the established science, much like with your 12% sugar kefir thread. I don’t know why you consistently feel the need to put a negative spin on everything, especially with such mediocre sources. Motivation is also an important factor in recovery, and you seem to be actively discouraging people.
Able is nothing but a simple sufferer that began this battle only a few months ago who claim to be cured but still follow an anticandida diet. To prove about a cure you have to have better arguments. To control the symptoms with a diet doesn’t mean a cure. When you can live a life like most people do eating bread, pizza, ice cream, desserts, drinking, eating fruits, in fact, what they want, then you can say you are cured. You can do it for 3 months to know if you really are cured, then, later follow the diet you like. I can not say I am cured until I be an slave of any kind of diet.
What do you think I don’t know anything about Probiotics ??
Don’t make me laugh ! My first year researching this syndrome was spent reading, studing, and taking probiotics. VSL3, Total Immune Booster, CP1, Dr. Ohhira, Ultimate Flora, Culturella, L. Reuteri, V299, PB 8, IFlora, and more.
I have done several Fecal Transplants using my daughter feces to be sure I have human indigenous bacterial species. I have paid 4 CDSA to Genoval Lab to see what my intestinal flora shows. During 2009, there wasn’t a single day where I didn’t take 4 teaspoon of Inulin, home made Kefir, Cabbage Rejuvelac, and every single thing to recover the flora.
I didn’t know that the information coming from Dr. Truss who discovered this syndrome is a mediocre source.
What do you think that after the amount of hours I have spent reading in forums about candida knowing people experiences, testimonies, different treatments, I have to believe a diet with oregano oil and garlic cure this syndrome ??
How many success stories you find of people cured following a web invented protocol ??
Get out of this forum and join Curezone Forum, Candida Support Forum, Candida Yahoo Group, The Whole Approach Forum, you will have a chance of speaking with people that have 5, 8 or 10 years battling candida. Are they stupid ?? Are they unable to realize a diet with natural supplements cure this syndrome ?? Don’t they want to be cured ??
Instead of discouraging people, I am encouraging them to do the right things to be close to the success some day.
I don’t have any reason to lye when I know for most people the things are deeper and
more complicated than a diet and some supplements.
I am encouraging people to find the root cause of this problem and to correct it when possible. I don’t tell anybody that don’t follow the diet or do anything that can aggravate this problem. Have you seen me to do that ??
I wish you luck with your probiotics and your trusted sources.