Impossible, you mentioned a $300 test that your doctor approved of. You don’t now, by chance remember what it was do you?
approximately_me;51190 wrote: I’ve recently had an increase in a lot of my symptoms without an apparent increase in yeast. I connected much of it to having stopped taking ALA three months ago. I wasn’t chelating, merely using it for general detox. Snce then I’ve also started reacting heavily to high thiol foods. Between that and the candida diet, there’s almost nothing I can eat anymore. I was going to start chelation (I’ve done one round and it was intense to say the least) because I want to get moving on this stuff before I lose any more ground. But you’re saying I should wait to chelate after methylation because of possible glutathione deficiency and that methylation might take care of the metals itself?
How long does it take from the time you order the test until you get your results back? Is there any reason to get your supplements from her and not somewhere else? Also, with all the supplements suggested, does one have to continuously take all of them?
And what if I can’t find a doctor to supervise in my area (I’m in Manitoba, Canada). An internet search for one revealed none. Are there good doctors which would work by phone, do you know? Or is tye Amy Yasko forum aware enough that I could probablynget a problem sorted out there?
I’m totally interested in this and it seems to make a lot of sense to me, despite the fact that I don’t have as good of a mind for science as I’d like. However, I’m a bit skeptical of a sight that offers an expensive test and then results which require you buy a bunch of supplements. What are the criticisms of Yasko’s work and are any of them valid?
Oh and if metthylB12 and methyl folate are fundamental, does it make sense just to add them and see if I improve or no?
In your case I would recommend the 23andme test because it tests for far more than just methylation snp’s. Im going to order it this week for that reason. It is still said to be 97% accurate. If you are still dealing with with symptoms/inflammation DO NOT add any major methyl donors because it will make it worse and possibly create symptoms and sensitivities that you have never had before. Note that I am not a doctor, merely making recommendations based on my knowledge and experience, it is ultimately your choice to decide to follow or not follow any of my ideas. I would suggest doing the 23andme test and in the meantime, do anything you can to improve your antioxidant status. Lots of Vit C, A, & E, minerals selenium, zinc, & small amounts of manganese & copper, 50 mg CoQ10, hugely limit bad fats (commercial non pastured meats, hydrogenated fats, any oils other than quality olive, coconut, or grapeseed), up your omega 3 intake, eat LOTS of phytonutrients, if you can afford it add a quality antioxidant drink mix. Adding a quality source of magnesium and potassium with the above mentioned minerals will aid many of the reactions neccessary for the body to produce its own antioxidants. Im trying to figure out exactly how stopping ala would make you thiol sensitive other than messing up your redox status, slowing down antioxidant production and overburdening your detoxification systems. It does seem as though you have stirred up a hornets nest, how were you using ala? Milk thistle might also help as it slows down liver phase 1 reactions (which basically oxides things) and increases some of your phase 2 reactions. Molybdenum and yucca root also aid in removing thiol derivatives from the body. You also might be just stirring things up even more by adding thiols into the mix. Are the thiol sensitivity symptoms similiar to your chelation symptoms? In any case you NEED to address your oxidative status. How did you do the 1 round of chelation? Before you start again you should seriously up your antioxidant status and also do anything you can to support the cell membrane. Omega 3’s and phosphatidylcholine help ALOT with that. How do you do with high cysteine foods?
You have already put anything “bad” about yasko in a nutshell. One cannot dispute her success and she has basically pioneered this whole field. But I would say that some say some of the extra supplements help, many others say some did not. I would say most of them are not absolutely necessary.
Cod liver oil is an excellent source of A, D, & E and omega 3’s and with C should be your priority supplements if you cannot afford much. If you want help picking out any other individual supplements for the time being let me know.
As for a doctor, Dr. Lynch just held a seminar that 2 or 300 doctors attended. I would think any one of those would be a decent place to start. Im going to try to find a list or something of all of those doctors. But in reality, there are few doctors that really know how to handle cases of this matter. That is why so many of us strike out on our own.
Thanks so much for all your work on this stuff, Impossible! I’m not sure I would’ve come across it otherwise.
I’m not sure either about the ALA. Previously I was taking 200 or 250mg 3x per day and found a lot of help in it. But I’m starting to wonder if my problems have been as much thiol-mercury caused as they are candida. I stopped taking ALA when my die-off stopped and slowly afterwards some symptoms returned while the candida seemed more or less stable. Eventually I connected it to thiol and mercury. My chelation symptoms and thiol sensitivity are very similar. I did one round, though I quit after a day because the dose was too high, at 1/4mg/lb of body weight. I did another three days at less than 1/2 that. I have had recurrent kidney pain since and I’m concerned about it. No indication of kidney problems (symptomatically or in tests) before.
I have this morning though found a filling in the very back of my mouth which I couldn’t see (I’d checked) and didn’t know about. My roommate happened to have a dentist mirror… So obviously I won’t be chelating until those are removed (and then starting with DMSA or DMPS). Given this new info, however, I wonder if my thiol sensitivity has been caused by further leaching that wasn’t being transported out by ALA after I started supplementing? I’m not sure.
High cysteine foods: Chicken and beef are fine, other than that there’s not a lot I can eat off that list because of either thiol or the candida diet.
Ok, I’ll go with the 23andme than. And boost my antioxidants. Though I’m going to keep parsing the methylation stuff for a bit yet before giving it a whirl.
I’d love a list of those doctors if you can manage getting one!
Thanks again for your help, Impossible!