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juisfish;42884 wrote: Okay, here’s the update : swab negative again, everything looks normal, it was getting better and I got my period. Burn sensation is back. What should I do …?

It will be negative a million of times. That isn’t the test you need. Chronic Atrophic Erythematous Candidiasis is a condition where the yeast lives deep inside the tissues and impossible to detect with a swab test. The infection you have is inside the cells no superficial, that is the reason of the permanent burning, redness, and inflammation.


This is what you have :

By Marjorie Crandall, Ph.D.

The typical woman with vulvar pain recently had yeast vaginitis and was treated with an antifungal for a short time. After her severe symptoms of itching and vaginal discharge resolved, she was left with vulvar redness and burning.

I propose that this residual inflammation can be due to yeasts remaining in vulvar and vaginal tissues.

During an active infection, yeasts invade underlying tissues and penetrate inside epithelial cells, where they stop growing, but continue to release yeast digestive enzymes and toxic metabolic products that cause chronic tissue irritation. I coined the phrase latent intracellular yeast infection for this condition.

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The medical term for this low grade yeast infection is chronic atrophic erythematous candidiasis, in which atrophic means not feeding, not growing; and erythematous means red tissue. The textbook example is the red, burning gums of people with false teeth, called denture stomatitis. Such an inactive yeast infection can also account for the red, burning vulvas in women with vulvodynia or vulvar vestibulitis.

You are probably wondering how to diagnose this latent intracellular yeast infection. Since yeasts are in the tissues and not on the surface, vulvar and vaginal swabs will give negative results when tested by microscopy or culture. Furthermore, there are too few yeasts to show up in biopsies. Hence, the diagnosis of the red form of yeast infection is based strictly on clinical signs and symptoms, history of vaginal yeast infections, and risk factors that cause candidiasis.

The following treatments for vulvodynia are recommended in my Candida Information Packet (

• long term, daily treatment with a systemic antifungal
• hydrocortisone cream for vulvar burning
• testing and treatment for Candida allergy
• avoiding all risk factors for yeast infections such as antibiotics, estrogen, etc.
• lifestyle changes to avoid contact dermatitis caused by spermicides, deodorants, etc.

Your recovery from vulvodynia after following all my recommendations will confirm your diagnosis of an inactive yeast infection.