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flailingWcandi;35035 wrote:

So, chronic candida sufferers need to find what is suppressing or affecting cell-mediated immunity. As far as I know, most of the time this suppression is acquired and not genetic.

Thank you, Jorge

I can understand you being sick of all the pm questions you get and generously try to answer or put into the forum through a post like this. I appreciate your helpful sharing of your research.

When you say “this suppression is acquired…” could candida itself over a long period of building up a big overgrowth be a potential cause of the acquired suppression of TH1/TH17 you spoke of?

I had TSH, T3, RT3 and T4 checked and they all came back within normal range….Suppose I have to get my TH1/Th17 checked as well, if the labs here even

The immunity shots from an allergist are not a one shot deal –=- ratz ….6 months at $600 is very expensive to us on the outs without insurance so, I may have to put off taking that action.

As always, many thanks for all your help and efforts to help educate people like me who seek and sometimes can’t find or understand medical jargon.

Blessings to you.

Yes, candida albicans itself during the years of considerable presence in the intestines can cause an immune paralysis. In fact, it is its presence during enough time what stops the immune system attacking it. Add to it, sources of Th1 immune suppression such as mercury, viruses (EBV, HV, etc)
The immune paralysis occur and you only have the antagonistic flora holding it to growth even more until you take an antibiotic round… Do you understand now ??
There are millions who take long antibiotic rounds and don’t get a fungal overgrowth. They are those who don’t have any immune paralysis against candida. Their immune system defends them in spite of a disruption of the intestinal flora. However, in our case, a simple antibiotic round cause the yeast growth like crazy because there isn’t immune response to control it but only the antagonistic effect the bacterial flora offers.

Both mechanisms are important. Both protect us. They probably don’t work alone but combined.