hi everyone
Im 10 months into the diet and seem to be going in circles. I follow the diet carefully but ive just discovered that the plamil chocolate ive been eaten contains caffeine, i had no idea.
Now im experiencing indigestion again. my nutritionist told me to stop taking vitamins and anti fungals 2 weeks ago and since then i feel it coming back. ( ive started them again today out of desperation
I had also been drinking herbal teas, camomile, decaf green tea and peppermint tea and again just seen i shouldnt be drinking any of them.
last month i felt well enough to have a treat, i had a curry takeaway. well never again! it took me weeks to get my energy to a point i could function again.
I still havent reintroduced fruit because i know the candida is still not under control and im worried it will tip the balance.
Im really grateful to this site for educating us because its such a lonely journey to take when no one around you believes its a real illness. I wish you all well

Hi there
I have red bobs gluten free cereal, its like porridge and rice milk for breakfast
I eat salads with tomatoes, carrot juice
gluten free/wheat free bread with butter
salmon, jacket potatoes, rice cakes with hummus, chicken, mince meat, stewing meat,
heres the part i think might be a problem

I make pies with butter and gluten free/wheat free flour
cakes with the same but also using stevia and ginger.carob
snacks of pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds
herbal teas

candida clear, multivitamin with minerals, echincea, and vit c

thats about it. if you can see i am missing something or doing somethin i shouldnt then i would appreciate any advice. thankyou )

thankyou so much for taking the rime to reply and for the advice. looks like i need to rethink my entire diet but health is more important. I really thought i was doing well lol, i will have to find ways to survive without my favourite foods lol

You might also want to go onto an anti-inflammatory diet. Rice milk is one of the highest inflammatory almost good things you can eat for instance. Buckwheat is also slightly inflammatory.

Check out your foods here:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/

-Raster

Also, if you rotate what you eat every few days, the candida won't be able to adapt to these foods as easily. For instance, if you ate nothing but buckwheat and chicken on the diet, the candida could eventually adapt to these foods and you will become allergic. You should consider rotating between buckwheat, quinoa, red and black rice, just to name a few.

-Raster

Hello, and welcome to the forum.

It’s much less expensive to follow the protocol here on the forum, and it works.
Reading the protocol will tell you exactly how to start.

http://www.thecandidadie...aster-The-Protocol.aspx

Let us know if you have questions.
Able

Hi,
I am going to give you some tips in another direction. Chronic candidiasis is associated to an acquired or genetic immune tolerance to the yeast/fungus. The goal of any treatment should be to reactivate proper immune function against it. It requires several things such as diet, antifungals, immune shots, supplements, and a detox program, specially addressing heavy metal toxicity.
You can do an heroic effort following the most restrictive diet and taking antifungals, but, if you have a compromised immune system because mercury, lead, or any other offender is pushing your immune system toward to a humoral/th2 induced response, you never will get results. Cell-mediated immunity Th1/Th17 (specially IL-17) are very important to control intracellular pathogens such as fungus.
Without this active immunologic response, it is impossible to cure a chronic fungal infection. Keep in mind the mycelial fungal form penetrates the cells and cause inflammation. You need an active cell-mediated immunity to clean the cells one time they are infected. Candida Albicans creates immune suppresor byproducts that can disrupt Th17 response.
What I mean is you should look at any underlying cause that may be favoring the infection, specially those which affect the immune system.
I hope this help you !

Able,
I have seen you are very interested about everything linked to this syndrome. That is a good thing. There is nothing that has consumed more time to me since 2008 than research and study this syndrome. I have bought 16 books about it, have spent more than 3000 hours in the web researching medical papers about candida and everything linked to this illness, have more than 2000 posts in Curezone, spoken with candida "experts" Drs in person such as Dr. Crandall, Dr. M. McNett, and S.Barkley. It has been hard for me and the only focus of my life.
I can tell you I still learn , and I am always open to new ideas and experiences. I have gained knowledge because the time reading and speaking with people affected by it but don't claim to know more than anybody.
I will be happy to share with you the information I have.
I didn't mentioned probiotics because current pharmaceutical probiotics CAN NOT colonize the gut permanently. There isn't any grade pharmaceutical probiotic which do it. They colonize the gut temporary and only offer temporary benefits. Another important thing is the main gut enterotypes aren't present in current probiotics. This means the antagonistic inhibitory flora isn't mainly Lactobacillus, Bifidobacterium, and E. Coli.

Regarding to the intracellular candidiasis, it is what cause intestinal lining inflammation and leaky gut. It is one, if not, the worse part of this infection.
Jorge.

If you know I am incorrect about friendly bacteria curing candida, it is ok.
I don't have any problem about that. What I won't do is to argue against you or anybody else. I joined this forum to read, learn , and help. I didn't come here to imposer anything. I am always open to hear and share to reach a "cure". Nothing else is more important for me.
Jorge.

Able,
You are doing what you do great. Only the intention to help is enough. You can be sure I won't post anymore contradicting anything I read here. I didn't joined this forum for that. I have had enough debates and confrontations about myths and stories about this syndrome in Curezone and the candida yahoo group I write. I apologize if my posts have made you feel bad.
I have read some posts in this forum and found things that contradict what I have learned about this syndrome so far. It doesn't mean what you are advocating doesn't work or doesn't help. I have had to change many things during my learning curve about this problem, and guaranty you, I have made a lot of mistakes.
Anyway, regarding to probiotics, I will tell you I recognize the role of pharmaceutical probiotics offering benefits to the gut and many other body functions. I have used them a lot, specially when I began to battle my health problems. I have no doubt they can help but my own story tells me they aren't the solution. Speaking about my personal case, I will tell you I believed I was cured 2 times after following intensive anticandida treatments. The second time, the relapse was after a very well planned protocol where probiotics and prebiotics were part. I have spent hundreds buying top market quality probiotics but no getting the results I was expecting. It wasn't until I learned they don't offer permanent colonization that I stopped use them. But later, I learned more, the bacterial species present in current probiotics aren't the predominant bacterias in the gut microbiota ecology. They aren't the main enterotypes that dominate the colon , and this can imply they aren't the main antagonist bacterias to candida even when some of them have shown antifungal activity. At that point, my hope to recover the intestinal flora was totally lost. Even Wikipedia had an statement that said " it looks like the human bacterial flora can not be recovered one time it is lost ". It was updated and later removed.
Going to the point, I have had 4 CDSA during the years. The first 3 were during a time where I took more than a liter of Kefir a day, cambucha, rejuvelac, massive doses of probiotics including Total Immune Booster, Primal Defense, Dr. Oshira, VSL-3, Flora Prime, PB-8, LGG, L. Reuteri, V-299, etc. Well, the first 3 CDSA never showed presence of benefical flora, but only a very low level of Bifidus. Then, during 2010, I began to research Fecal Transplants and HPI (have many papers about them and several professional protocols) Then, I did a DIY transplant at home using my daughter as a donor. End of the story, my 4 CDSA showed Lactobacillus 3+, E. Coli 3 +, and Bifidobactirium 4+. Still, I have an intestinal fungal overgrowth. So, my first belief blaming lack of friendly flora as responsible of an intestinal fungal overgrowth wasn't demonstrated. Since that, I have read a lot about fecal transplants and believe it is the only way available so far to recover a human origin indigenous gut microbiota. It is the only demonstrated way so far that offer permanent colonization of the gut. I believe CRC is more linked to an immunologic problem than the bacterial flora. I have reasons to believe in it. Some of them are several articles written by the man who discovered this syndrome, Dr. Orian Truss.
Now you see why pharmaceutical probiotics aren't my last cup of wine !
Jorge.